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Jeff Stahler for August 29, 2019

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    hankmorgan  3 months ago

    Let me tell you about Talwin, a narcotic marketed in the 70’s as having low addiction potential by sterling labs. As I recall it wasn’t even included in the locked narcotic drawer on the ward. So too many RN’s would take the oral dose home to treat their back pain. (Bedside nursing can cause BOO-COO back pain.) So lots of nurses became addicted thinking that Talwin was safe. Guess what? It ain’t. and it was tough cheeses for the addicted RN’s.

    Nobody ever bothered to say “Boo” to sterling for lying about Talwin. So all this crap about causing addiction byu Big Pharma is old news. Everybody who was in practice knew all about what Big Pharma’s game was with opiates. So don’t let them try playing the innocent — neither the companies, the drug reps, or the (it says here) “Doctors”.

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    Darsan54 Premium Member 3 months ago

    Drug dealers all sell alike.

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    Jason Allen  3 months ago

    Almost makes me glad I’m immune to the effects of opioid drugs. Almost. I’m dreading the day I finally go in to have my wisdom teeth pulled.

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    NeedaChuckle Premium Member 3 months ago

    When I had my wisdom teeth pulled they gave me percocets or some other heavy drug. I ditched them and took Tylenol. That were good enough.

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    superposition  3 months ago

    A new preamble to justify big pharma?

    We the “People” of the United States, in order to form more perfect corporations, establish multitier justice, insure domestic division, provide for the common defense industry, …

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    DanFlak  3 months ago

    Look at the TV ads, these pills will make your life better. You can take a pill that has as a side effect, death, to cure acne.

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    sanderling75  3 months ago

    I believe there is at least one way to show people the dangers of opiates and other products. The long dead Public Service Announcement, last seen in the 1980’s.

    PSA’s were used to place spot tv ads to inform the public of the dangers of various drugs, tobacco, etc. One showed a frying pan holding an egg. The cut line read this is your brain on drugs, as the egg slowly burned to ashes and blew away. It was proven to be the most effective of all similar spots in reducing drug use, but was discontinued. Nobody knows why, although overt influence from government and industry are suspect. There have been no similar spots for over 3 decades.

    With so many people strapped to their tv screens, now might be a good time to revive those spots. They certainly would provide more information and use up less time than the insidious ‘join our class action’ legal ads.

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    Alberta Oil Premium Member 3 months ago

    Is this opioid mess not a fine example of how capitalism works..and, what is wrong with it.

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    Motivemagus  3 months ago

    There is no more effective painkiller than opioids. Used properly, they can save people untold trauma and pain. But they were pushing it as much as any heroin dealer, for all occasions. There are other forms of pain management that should be used as well or instead, depending on the person, but it became too easy to prescribe a pill.

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    OldCoal  3 months ago

    The real issue with opioids is that the whole “use opioids, they aren’t addictive” was based on ONE paper and the author himself stated flatly that his paper did not say opioids were not addictive under any circumstances.

    This single paper was the basis for the long stated claim by big pharma that opioids were not addictive, and led to opioids becoming the most profitable class of drugs sold in America.

    And the truth is, they knew better.

    The body naturally produces painkillers, they are called endorphins. Endorphins attach to opiate receptors in the brain, thus stopping pain.

    Any opium derivative or synthetic based on opium will and must be physically addictive, because they attach to the opiate receptors. If taken for a long enough period of time (three days to a week) the natural endorphin production system shuts down. It will make anyone sick if they stop taking the drug, and then have to wait for the natural system to start back up. They’ll have what amounts to a really nasty (and occasionally fatal) illness that is generally described as being like a terrible case of the flu. And it’s really easy to get over it, just take another pill.

    This is not and has not been in any way unknown or a recent discovery. But the drug companies have periodically claimed to have discovered a “new” way around the problem. And every time they make this claim, they produce yet another generation of addicts.

    It was claimed that heroin was not addictive. Then it was claimed that methadone was not addictive. Then it was claimed that various and sundry opioids were not addictive.

    Give the public’s mind a little time to forget, and there will be yet another drug that attaches to opiate receptors and we’ll be told “it’s not addictive”. And it will be a lie.

    Sucker born every minute, and apparently most of us are being played for suckers by the big boys.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3104618/

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    Rad-ish. Premium Member 3 months ago

    Cannabis binds to more receptors in the brain than any other drug. Its almost as if the brain were designed to use cannabis. However the withdrawal from cannabis is not severe or deadly like it can be with opioids.

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    Bookworm  3 months ago

    For years, I’ve pondered about medication ads on TV wherein the listing of all the potential harmful side-effects is five times longer than the listing of supposed benefits of the medication itself. But then again, I’ve also wondered why all the lemonade beverages are “artificially flavored” but all the furniture polishes are made with “real lemon juice.” Reading labels can be a terrifying experience.

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    AndrewSihler  3 months ago

    Is that a misprint on the label, for "SOLD your doctor. . . " etc.?

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    Concretionist  3 months ago

    We would like to think that our doctors are better than we are, at least for health matters. But in fact, on average they’re…. average. Natural result: They read the brochure, listen to the spiel, and they’re as convinced… on average… as you or I might be (assuming we spoke that language variant) about the safety and efficacy of whatever is being sold. And so they prescribe based on sales spiels, not actual studies.

    Used to be that the FDA and their ilk somewhat protected us from that sort of thing, but that “protection” has long been diluted to nearly nothing. Too bad. Smaller government is good, I hear, so this is one of the prices we pay for that obvious good.

    (last part: sarcasm)

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    Jeffrey Cartwright Premium Member 3 months ago

    The overdose deaths dwarf gun deaths and no call for banning them I guess because they have a legitimate use /s

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    JohnJackson2  3 months ago

    For people with chronic pain they are necessary. Jeff, the next time you are in your old neighborhood stop by and we will explain to you how it is to live with chronic pain. The problem is that too many people lack any kind of self control.

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    davidthoms1  3 months ago

    Proves that Doctors are just people. They are as easily fooled as the Trump voters.

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    KEA  3 months ago

    More like “bribed your doctor” isn’t it?

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    Gebesie  3 months ago

    You don’t need opioids then either. Regular Tylenol and Advil will do just fine.

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