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Jeff Stahler for May 19, 2019

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    RAGs  2 months ago

    We still have to educate some of these bozos that women have the RIGHT to have RIGHTS.

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    Darsan54 Premium Member 2 months ago

    This is a correct cartoon; their would-be oppressors really only have one ball in the game.

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    EdMeiller Premium Member 2 months ago

    You’d think things would be better. At least that’s a dream I had once.

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    sanderling75  2 months ago

    Seems to me that ball should be much larger and maybe flat on one side. And don’t overlook the other humans pushing similar burdens up hills just as steep as this one.

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    morningglory61 Premium Member 2 months ago

    When there is so much deadwood making the rules and laws, freedom begins to fade away.

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    mourdac Premium Member 2 months ago

    The conservative sun is out melting that snowball as well as others being pushed by advocates of other social and economic causes.

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    Bookworm  2 months ago

    At least Sisyphus didn’t have a load of governors and congressmen sitting on that stone and pushing in the other direction. /s

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    walkingmancomics  2 months ago

    when I buy a fertilized chicken’s-egg at the farmer’s market, is that a chicken?

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    lonecat  2 months ago

    I hope and expect that there will be a revolt of women (and men) against these oppressive laws.

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    Librarylady  2 months ago

    Patriarchy is fighting to its last breath. Can’t stand equality for all “races”, women, LGBTQ, different religion or no religion.

    “Historically, the conservative has favored liberty for the higher orders and constraint for the lower orders. What the conservative sees and dislikes in equality, in other words, is not a threat to freedom but its extension. For in that extension, he sees a loss of his own freedom. ‘We are all agreed as to our own liberty,’ declared Samuel Johnson. ‘But we are not agreed as to the liberty of others: for in proportion as we take, others must lose.’” – The Reactionary Mind, Corey Robin

    “For the conservative, equality portends more than a redistribution of resources, opportunities, and outcomes – though he certainly dislikes these, too. What equality means is a rotation in the seat of power." – The Reactionary Mind, Corey Robin

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    Alberta Oil Premium Member 2 months ago

    I find it interesting (hypocritical??) that the Evangelistic pro-lifers use science to determine when life begins.. yet deny science when it comes to the whole concept of “religion”. A chicken.. becomes a chicken when it escapes its enclosure.. this “concept” is the way their God intended it to be..

    For what it is worth.. even a carrot.. or a dead frogs leg.. will respond to stimuli so that argument that the embryo feels..anything.. is $#*’S

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    Perkycat  2 months ago

    As I said on another comic, this country has been going backwards for awhile. What’s next?

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    feverjr  2 months ago

    To not let a woman have an abortion in case of rape or incest is criminal. She will spend the rest of her life supporting the offspring of her rapist. The GOP wants to make the crime a life sentence… for the woman.

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    timbob2313 Premium Member 2 months ago

    and red states continue to pass antiabortion bills making an abortion after 6 weeks illegal. With the RTL mostly male leadership along with the red states legislatures(almost all male) it is a power play, nothing more. Men telling women that they have zero rights when it concerns their own bodies. Even in cases of rape or incest, in several states no exception even if woman’s life in danger. And to make it even more clear that its all about power, they largely have zero interest once kid is born

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    Stephen Runnels Premium Member 2 months ago

    As long as people refuse to vote, or continue to vote for members of the christian Taliban, women will remain chattel.

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    SukieCrandall Premium Member 2 months ago

    Basically, to some people women will never be “real” people to be valued as highly as men. Sadly, that even includes the viewpoint of a minority of women (most, but not all, being older women).

    Having had friends die of pregnancy, having known someone refused an abortion by a judge even though every physician who addressed the court said that neither she nor the fetus would survive the pregnancy, but if it was terminated then at least she would survive, and knowing that of the world’s industrialized nations the U.S. has the worst complication and survival stats, I can not help but be appalled by the recent states’ restrictions. (In Georgia a woman who has a miscarriage will actually have to somehow prove that she did not get an abortion. How does a person prove a negative? I ask that as someone who miscarried and who certainly has known women across the generations who have done so since it is not a particulary unusual outcome.)

    Interesting legal conundrums from the definitions in these states. Some for the end of life include the possibility of not letting brain dead people with heartbeats be removed from life support, ditto not harvesting transplantable organs from such brain dead people while they can still save someone.

    Meanwhile, the early ages in recent abortion laws are LONG BEFORE there is a cohesive brain capable of even some basic functions, let alone harder tasks such as pain sensing or (even later) thought.

    https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Neural_System_Development

    Above you can see what the fetal brain (actually not really a brain yet early on) is like and its sizes at ages 6 and 8 weeks compared to late in pregnancy but still before birth. Go to the link introduction for image of the relative brain size embryonic (week 4, 5, 6, and 8) and late fetal (third trimester)

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    SukieCrandall Premium Member 2 months ago

    continued:

    Meanwhile, the early ages in recent abortion laws are LONG BEFORE there is a cohesive brain capable of even some basic functions, let alone harder tasks such as pain sensing or (even later) thought.

    https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Neural_System_Development

    Above you can see what the fetal brain (actually not really a brain yet early on) is like and its sizes at ages 6 and 8 weeks compared to late in pregnancy but still before birth. Go to the link introduction for image of the relative brain size embryonic (week 4, 5, 6, and 8) and late fetal (third trimester)

    No one knows when the ability to feel pain might begin but there may be developmental reasons to think that week 26 is possible (so many countries require pain meds from week 22 on if surgery is done for any reason to give an extra month of being safer on that score) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/

    Note that the fetal brain does not reach a level of development where it can even begin controlling some functions till much later, week 27:

    https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002398.htm

    This is an interesting piece on some additional considerations associated with defining personhood according to humans with a heartbeat. It might be that Alabama or one the others using that definition (if their definitions survive the courts)may become the safest place for a pregnant woman who is otherwise at risk of deportation to be during her pregnancy, because if the fetus is a person then deporting her would also amount to deporting someone recognized as a person under the laws of those states and therefore violating that fetus’ rights:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/if-a-fetus-is-a-person-it-should-get-child-support-due-process-and-citizenship/2019/05/17/7280ae30-78ac-11e9-b3f5-5673edf2d127_story.html?utm_term=.2faf54dd1697

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    Radish Premium Member 2 months ago

    The only solution is to never vote for a Republican.

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    Concretionist  2 months ago

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    DanFlak  about 2 months ago

    I am a well-to-do, heterosexual, English-Speaking, White Christian Male. Therefore, women are not people. Blacks are not people. Hispanics are not people. Muslims are not people. Gays are not people. Poor people are not people. Anyone who is not like me is not people. It’s amazing that so much of the world is not people.

    I’m exactly the demographic that Trump caters to. So why do I have a problem dealing with him and the ReTrumpliKKKans?

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    SukieCrandall Premium Member about 2 months ago

    Hmmmm, some of these states are also climate change deniers so I wonder how researching indicating increases in birth defects (and therefore also increases in inviable fetuses)are linked to climate change…

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/238217/20190131/climate-change-is-causing-higher-birth-defect-rates-warns-study.htm

    by 2025, the number [of congenital heart malformations] might rise to as many as 7,000 children born with the condition in the United States over an 11-year period in [just] eight representative states: Arkansas, Texas, California, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia, New York, and Utah. The biggest increase is projected in the Midwest, followed by the South and the Northeast.

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.118.010995

    Projected Changes in Maternal Heat Exposure During Early Pregnancy and the Associated Congenital Heart Defect Burden in the United StatesWangjian Zhang, Tanya L. Spero, Christopher G. Nolte, Valerie C. Garcia, Ziqiang Lin, Paul A. Romitti, Gary M. Shaw, Scott C. Sheridan, Marcia L. Feldkamp, Alison Woomert, Syni‐An Hwang, Sarah C. Fisher, Marilyn L. Browne, Yuantao Hao, Shao Lin, and the National Birth Defects Prevention Study, Charlotte Hobbs, Suzan Carmichael, Jennita Reefhuis, Sarah Tinker, Marlene Anderka, Charlotte Druschel, Erin Bell, Andy Olshan, Robert Meyer, Mark Canfield, Peter Langlois, and Lorenzo Botto Show less Authors Originally published5 Feb 2019https://doi.org/10.1161/JAHA.118.010995Journal of the American Heart Association. 2019;8

    [Apologies for their “less” vs “fewer” error to those bothered by such things.]

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