Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for December 06, 2011

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

     Just like in Vietnam, we’re declaring victory and going home!

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    TURTLE  over 12 years ago

    Yup Obama needs a ‘victory’ to claim. Make it looks like he did something besides ruin our Country.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

     

    And just as Vietnam, thanks to our intervention, was a domino that didn’t fall, but remained staunchly anti-commie; so Iraq, thanks to our intervention, is a domino that won’t fall either, but will remain staunchly anti-Islamist. Yippee yay, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Blair, Rice, Powell, and all of the rest who remain more patriotic than George Washington!

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Uh, er, stumble, don’t mean to disillusion you, RDT64, but guess the name of the conservative GOPper U.S. VP who, on June 15, 1992 told Trenton, NJ school kid, how to MISSPELL the word “potato” after the kid had spelled it CORRECTLY on the blackboard? Sorry you missed it, Sparkey! it was reich-winger “Danny Boy” Quayle in 1992. The kid, a student at Munoz Rivera school, had spelled it “potato”, and fuzz-brain Quayle made him change it to “potatoe”. Sooo, what’s your point about good-spellers Waters, Biden, Reid, and Obama? Out the window? Out there in the dump with dum-dum Trash Limpballs, Glenn Becki-becki-becki-stan-boy, and Herman “the Vermin” Cain?

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    doc white  over 12 years ago

    Or potato.

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    KarlW2000  over 12 years ago

    I’m always amazed how people think it’s enough to shout slogans. How about some facts & figures? Be careful, though – knowledge is likely to damage your prejudice!

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    BlueRaven  over 12 years ago

    You’re the one claiming it’s Obama’s fault the economy’s weak. How’s about proving it? You made the initial assertion, let’s see you cough up the facts. Hint: you’re wrong.

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    Crabbyrino Premium Member over 12 years ago

    Don’t know why some of my comments were “crossed” out…so it goes.

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    asa4ever  over 12 years ago

    Would you all stop confusing me with facts?

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    Doughfoot  over 12 years ago

    Sonny is right, Obama did ruin HIS country. The rest of us wouldn’t recognize Sonny’s country. In his country every red-blooded American stands on his own two feet, defends his home and family with his God-given arsenal, and doesn’t need any damned government to protect his rights, property, or health. Where the American Revolution is turned upside down, and taxation WITH representation is tyranny. Sonny’s country is where REAL AMERICANS live. Real Americans are descended from people here before the Civil War. Real American do not have to be white, male, Protestant, straight, successful, or self-employed, but probably aspire to be. Not like, say, New York City, which is not his America. Of course, more Americans live in New York City than in the six smallest states combined. More Americans than any two of the smallest 25 states, and more Americans than my own Virginia or 38 other states. But Obama by his very existence ruins Sonny’s country, by reminding us all every day that Sonny’s country is a fading fantasy. We are now a highly complex, interdependent, urban, multi-ethnic and multi-religious society, and our system of government and laws is chiefly what stands between us and chaos. Conservatives are right, that law and the bureaucracy could be made simpler and more efficient. You won’t find any liberal to disagree with that. But too many people want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and think the best way to simplify is to surrender, and give up the fight for a just and equitable society.

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    JAPrufrock  over 12 years ago

    It’s Bush AND Obama. God bless our Corporatocracy.

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    SubVetUSN  over 12 years ago

    “When will they ever learn. When will they ever learn.”P. Seeger 1955, J. Hickerson 1960.

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    RonaldGBrown  over 12 years ago

    hmmm. Obama is simply honoring the agreement to withdraw by 2011 that George Bush signed. there’s no declaration nor denial. as has been said before, war is not good for children and other living things.

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    jimwill0803  over 12 years ago

    We came and we conquered just like in the Roman Holy Wars.

    We ate their food, raped their women, then killed their old and young alike.

    All there’s left to do now is leave the smoldering mess and move on to the next battlefield.

    We are the Brave!!! We are the Proud!!! We are a mighty war machine!!!

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    rockngolfer  over 12 years ago

    Don’t forget that Bush approved the loan to Solyrna before Obama approved it.

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    Radical-Knight  over 12 years ago

    Great ‘toon Garry. It’s a real shame though when people leave this site feeling they need a bath after wading through all the propaganda and old sleezy gossip by those who aren’t able to back up their views with intelligent facts without resorting to ridicule and slander of others.

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    phoenixnyc  over 12 years ago

    The trouble is, quite a few of those victims turned out to be lunatics themselves and started shooting at us as soon as the previous lunatics were out of the way..Does the name al-Sadr ring a bell? He is a Shiite, the same people we “liberated”—and the same people who’ve been running Iran since the late 1970s..That’s why, for those of us who were reading the international section of the newspaper BEFORE the planes hit the buildings, Iraq was doomed to failure from the start. We weren’t liberating a downtrodden people; we were enabling a bunch of wacked-out fanatics who would just as soon kill us as look at us.

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    Bill the Butcher  over 12 years ago

    As a non-American, all I can say is that Obama is not worse than Bush Jr, and that’s about it. Even though, in saying it, I diverge from a personal idol, Noam Chomsky, who says he’s worse than Bush and Blair put together. A few days ago I celebrated International Giving Obama The Finger Day on my blog. A good time was had by several.

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    drtom01  over 12 years ago

    Ex-Pres Bush totally failed in Iraq, Afghanistan and even said that finding Bin Laden was unimportant. Pres Obama has a end date for the war in Afghanistan ending the war in Iraq this year and killed Bin Laden. Yet the right-wing always says he did nothing.

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    Yukoneric  over 12 years ago

    Didn’t the Bushes start all this stuff? Bush 2 took my job, not Obama!!!!!!!!! Ignorant anal pore…………

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    phoenixnyc  over 12 years ago

    The South Vietnamese never started shooting at us, so the comparison is perhaps a little unfair to them..Moreover, the divide in Vietnam was political. The divides in Iraq were ethnic and religious—the ones that really make people lose their alleged minds.

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    krisjackson01  over 12 years ago

    Reminds me of my first reaction to a rocket attack back in ’Nam: “Hey! What are you trying to do, kill somebody?”

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    ronpolimeni  over 12 years ago

    @ masterskrain, well said.

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    Waydownunder  over 12 years ago

    Obama!!!!!!!!!!! Mmmm just who got the US into that quagmire? How short the Republican memory is.

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    Spaghettus1  over 12 years ago

    He was being humorous, and I guess you missed it.

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    kaffekup   over 12 years ago

    I know the ’cons say Obama should have just renegotiated the status of forces agreement. Of course, after Blackwater shot up the place, murdering dozens, and left scott free, the Iraqis were hesitant to agree to let us stay unless we were under their jurisdiction. Which the ’cons would never accept.

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    Spaghettus1  over 12 years ago

    The events that caused the crash were already in motion when the GOP still had full control. Robert Shiller brought up the possibility of a housing bubble in 2003. By 2005, he predicted that this bubble would pop and lead to a world-wide financial crisis. The Congress of 2006-7 would have needed a time machine to cause the crisis.Please understand that you will be fed BS on talk radio and right-wing “info” sites. The true causes of the crisis can be found, but not through partisan or biased sources.

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    Jack; parts for the Huey helicopter are now being made in Viet Nam, now there is some irony. Also a little town I knew as “grass huts and mud” now has paved roads, sidewalks, and large “modern” buildings, and a growing economy. Maybe we should have “lost” sooner?

    to the ’toon btw, I repeatedly tried to “report” incoming mortars, and complain, but they just kept coming, and oddly, they all stopped when we left.

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    Goblinopolis  over 12 years ago

    Don’t you people know a troll when you see one?

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    mdblanche  over 12 years ago

    Serious question: if our troops weren’t leaving, what specifically were they supposed to accomplish by remaining in Iraq indefinitely?

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    natureboyfig4 Premium Member over 12 years ago

    Bring our soldiers home & then nuke the place. Then the Kenyacrats & Americans will both be happy!

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