Matt Wuerker for September 01, 2011

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    kreole  over 12 years ago

    Not even close……premature global warming will actually cause global cooling and an early cycle of an ice age will occur.

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    curiosity1  over 12 years ago

    …arch_a_eology. Although, I guess, by 3001, the a might have disappeared…

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    Motivemagus  over 12 years ago

    kreole…whaaaa? Never heard THAT one. Nor does it make sense based on what I have read. Mind explaining?

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    grayhares01  over 12 years ago

    It’s one of the theories of global warming. That melting polar ice caps will not only cool the oceans but desalinate the oceans causing shifts in the jet-stream leading to another ice age..The fact that libbies are unfamiliar with their own theories shows how little they actually care about science and how much they care about religious dogma…

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    Actually, I projected decades ago that the Colorado would reveal a new layer under the precambrian, containing a ’58 Edsel- we as a species just love repeating “stupid” over, and over.

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    Motivemagus  over 12 years ago

    Thanks, Eryx. I did know the Gulf Stream issues; currently the UK has roughly the same climate as Boston even though it is at the same latitude as Newfoundland; if the Stream shifts, the UK drops into the icebox, though of course most of the world still rises significantly. (Global warming isn’t even, but an average, as most of us know.)grayhares01, it helps to get the details right if you want me to recognize them. Eryx is correct in that the amount of methane (a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2) trapped in permafrost is so high that some think it could trigger a runaway warming by crossing a tipping point; we just don’t know what the tipping point is.And of course over LONG periods climate can shift back, in the sense that warming climate may produce more clouds which reflect more sunlight and cools, etc., but we’re talking geological time, not years.So you might want to hold off on the insults next time, eh? I’m the one who keeps posting from realclimate.org, which is run and maintained by real climate scientists. Not so much a religious dogma — unlike your beliefs, evidently.

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    charliekane  over 12 years ago

    He who hath ears to hear, (and all that) . . .

    http://aip.org/history/climate/summary.htm

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    Motivemagus  over 12 years ago

    s, is that comment supposed to make any sense whatsoever? Because it doesn’t. You do realize that carbon can be found in many forms and in many compounds, from diamonds to amino acids to coal, and oxygen ditto, from quartz to ozone? There is a difference between CO2 in the air and coal and quartz in the ground.

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    Motivemagus  over 12 years ago

    Well, here’s a global warming story for people: the largest chunk of ice breaking off a Greenland glacier since recorded observations began in 1876. Four times the size of Manhattan. Oh, and another merely twice the size of Manhattan looks likely.And ICE IS ALL IN THE PLANET EARTH! Sheesh.

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    If Repugnicans won’t risk their own country, and people, for political gain (and money), please consider: Iran/Contra, and “WMDs”. (Think Rumsfeld/Cheney while you’re at it.)

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    halfabug  over 12 years ago

    Think the time line might be a few billion years short.

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    “write wing” is an Archaeopteryx, soaring to new lows with every post, cruising the swamp looking for his intellectual equal or superior, like well, a ’gator.

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    Another note: those great swings in climate also led to something somewhat important to think about- massive extinctions!

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    grayhares01  over 12 years ago

    I think the funniest thing about the AGW movement is that the very people who champion the fact (rightly so) that the earth has been around 5 billion years (as opposed to merely 6000), completely ignore those 5 billion years of history when crusading for AGW..Stupidity at it’s finest

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    ^^grayhare, with the “wild hair”, the climate was different back then because the biosphere was different, as was the geography, continental drift was also part of those long-term changes in climate, as were things like asteroid strikes and other significant geophysical “effectors”, like changes in ocean depths, tipping of the planet’s axis, volcanic activity— all causing change on a MUCH SLOWER time frame, than the impacts of human activity from seven billion people, AND THEIR MACHINES. But “deniers” will blame space aliens before they ever blame themselves.

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