ViewsAsia by Cartoon Movement-US for February 24, 2009
February 21, 2009
February 26, 2009
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Women Rights Sharia law will be enforced in the northwestern Swat Valley under an historic agreement endorsed by the Pakistani government and Islamic leaders.
Lego – you’re referring to the American Taliban? The unflinching Fundamentalist whackos of this country are less violent, but no less anti-freedom than the stone-age dirt-farmers above.
Lego…wake up and smell the fundamentalists. They are already here, and they are the right-wing Bible-thumpers who would mandate that we all follow the laws of their version of the Christian deity or effectively be stoned to death as well. I could go through newspapers and find THOUSANDS of article citing religious dumbdamentalism alive and dangerously active in this country - politically, socially, and physically. Remember lynchings? Matthew Shepard? You may not like what other citizens do or how they live their lives, but preventing them from peaceably choosing their own path is about as un-American as it comes. Keep your faith to yourself and leave the rest of us ALONE!
founding fathers had it exactly right when they wrote in separation of church and state;
some of the rabid ‘Christian’ right are quite un-American in their beliefs
OldLego probably means England or Michigan ; areas which are capitulating legislatively to their muslim populations.
And most “Bible-Thumpers” who are real Christians are convinced of their lack of righteousness which is why they boast in the sinless Son of God , Jesus Christ who died for our sins. Unbelievers, on the other hand, are smug in their baseness and often charge Christianity with being as evil as themselves. Forgive my bluntness , Sirs and Ma’ams.
“founding fathers had it exactly right when they wrote in separation of church and state;
some of the rabid ‘Christian’ right are quite un-American in their beliefs”
Folks will sometimes say to me, “America went to hell when they took the bibles out of school.”
When I ask them, “Okay, if you put the Bible back in schools, is it ok to have the Koran in schools?”
They usually say “No.”
And then they look at me strangely as I marvel at their ignorance.
it was fun at the beginning but it can grow tiresome…like “arguing” about the fossil record
“I’m sure some of the Christian Right would love public stoning of women… cheaper and more fun that NASCAR!”
that’s a cheap shot and you and I and everyone here knows that any “Christian” who would agree with that statement missed the ENTIRE point of the book…
they would be almost as big a disingenuous tool as you…
rehead … guess we have a touchy subject here. But, I have in deed seen some very fundamentalist that would in deed do such, very few but I have seen it. As for missing the point of “the book”, just read some of the posting here at this site, very assured of “their” righteousness. PS I can respect your attitude.
..Including the Humph. Curious_1 how is it that “Christians” killed a man in a drug-buy gone bad (Matthew Shepard)? I doubt if the posters here would have had the patience and humility to listen to Moses or , much less, Jesus - In which case your comments on the Bible and it’s believers is almost irrelevant. Your comparisons to the Taliban are mean-spirited and bigotted. There is more danger of atheists and agnostics forcing their opinions on this Christian (by population) nation than the other way around from my experience.
NFP … shame on you and I refuse to let your statement about Matthew Shepard stand … while you may choose to believe whispers of a reputed drug deal, I’ll go with the proven facts … one of his killers, Russell Henderson pleaded guilty to murder and kidnapping. Matthew Shepard was kidnapped, beaten, tortured and left to die tied to a fence in a remote area because he was gay. He was found 18 hours later in a coma and died five days later. A Baptist church in his area picketed his funeral, as well as his murderers’ trial, with hateful, ugly signs and shouts.
Do not propagate your evil ignorance about the tragic death of Matthew Shepard on this site … go chat elsewhere with your buddies of like mind
oldlego, you’re right about separation of church and state not being in Constitution … thanks for the nudge to look it up and learn more about how it came about
Are you sure ‘bout that Acey? BCS I’m just relating what I heard- I’m not impugning anybody, merely pointing out that equating Matthew Shepard’s killers to Christians is a spurious and mistaken charge (from what I know about the situation).
NoFearPup, for what it’s worth, I know Matthew Shepherd’s family, and it was no drug deal gone wrong. He was not a drug user. They tortured and killed him solely because he was gay. The Westboro Baptist Church pastored by Fred Phelps picketed his funeral with signs proclaiming that he was now burning in hell.
More broadly, our nation’s history shows many examples of church’s trying to take hold of government – a mistake every time. In the 70s, the Moral Majority did not exactly ask for official control of the government, but its proclamations of “this is a Christian country,” started a move in that direction.
It is those who are convinced that theirs is the only way and insist that others do as they do (or suffer the consequences) who frighten me the most. They may not have Taliban options in this country (yet) but they do have Taliban sentiments. And no, oldlegodad, it’s not those who are being PC. It’s usually those who hold respect for the views of others in contempt.
puppy, in over sixty years I have “never” had an atheist bleeep me to He11 because I didn’t believe as tyhe did. Let’s not confuse this with those that have stated their opinions or views that have irrratated me. I have, however, had number of Christians who’ve deemed themselves the equivalent of the Almighty and passed judgement.
c’mon kids, we know that there are some Christians, (perhaps more than that even) who are quite judgmental and rather close-minded, but do not let them give you a negative impression of all of us. I try my best not to judge anyone, but I know a couple of atheists who ridicule me for my beliefs, but I know that most are better than that and I hold no grudges.
lalas about 15 years ago
Lego – you’re referring to the American Taliban? The unflinching Fundamentalist whackos of this country are less violent, but no less anti-freedom than the stone-age dirt-farmers above.
curiosity1 about 15 years ago
Lego…wake up and smell the fundamentalists. They are already here, and they are the right-wing Bible-thumpers who would mandate that we all follow the laws of their version of the Christian deity or effectively be stoned to death as well. I could go through newspapers and find THOUSANDS of article citing religious dumbdamentalism alive and dangerously active in this country - politically, socially, and physically. Remember lynchings? Matthew Shepard? You may not like what other citizens do or how they live their lives, but preventing them from peaceably choosing their own path is about as un-American as it comes. Keep your faith to yourself and leave the rest of us ALONE!
MaryWorth Premium Member about 15 years ago
I’m sure some of the Christian Right would love public stoning of women… cheaper and more fun that NASCAR!
believecommonsense about 15 years ago
founding fathers had it exactly right when they wrote in separation of church and state; some of the rabid ‘Christian’ right are quite un-American in their beliefs
HUMPHRIES about 15 years ago
BCS, you know this, I know this and most rational people know this … but they are secure in the righteousness of their belief.
NoFearPup about 15 years ago
OldLego probably means England or Michigan ; areas which are capitulating legislatively to their muslim populations. And most “Bible-Thumpers” who are real Christians are convinced of their lack of righteousness which is why they boast in the sinless Son of God , Jesus Christ who died for our sins. Unbelievers, on the other hand, are smug in their baseness and often charge Christianity with being as evil as themselves. Forgive my bluntness , Sirs and Ma’ams.
redheadsandrazorbacks about 15 years ago
“founding fathers had it exactly right when they wrote in separation of church and state; some of the rabid ‘Christian’ right are quite un-American in their beliefs”
Folks will sometimes say to me, “America went to hell when they took the bibles out of school.”
When I ask them, “Okay, if you put the Bible back in schools, is it ok to have the Koran in schools?”
They usually say “No.”
And then they look at me strangely as I marvel at their ignorance.
it was fun at the beginning but it can grow tiresome…like “arguing” about the fossil record
redheadsandrazorbacks about 15 years ago
“I’m sure some of the Christian Right would love public stoning of women… cheaper and more fun that NASCAR!”
that’s a cheap shot and you and I and everyone here knows that any “Christian” who would agree with that statement missed the ENTIRE point of the book…
they would be almost as big a disingenuous tool as you…
MaryWorth Premium Member about 15 years ago
redheadsandrazorbacks, seems like you do understand my quip…
HUMPHRIES about 15 years ago
rehead … guess we have a touchy subject here. But, I have in deed seen some very fundamentalist that would in deed do such, very few but I have seen it. As for missing the point of “the book”, just read some of the posting here at this site, very assured of “their” righteousness. PS I can respect your attitude.
NoFearPup about 15 years ago
..Including the Humph. Curious_1 how is it that “Christians” killed a man in a drug-buy gone bad (Matthew Shepard)? I doubt if the posters here would have had the patience and humility to listen to Moses or , much less, Jesus - In which case your comments on the Bible and it’s believers is almost irrelevant. Your comparisons to the Taliban are mean-spirited and bigotted. There is more danger of atheists and agnostics forcing their opinions on this Christian (by population) nation than the other way around from my experience.
believecommonsense about 15 years ago
NFP … shame on you and I refuse to let your statement about Matthew Shepard stand … while you may choose to believe whispers of a reputed drug deal, I’ll go with the proven facts … one of his killers, Russell Henderson pleaded guilty to murder and kidnapping. Matthew Shepard was kidnapped, beaten, tortured and left to die tied to a fence in a remote area because he was gay. He was found 18 hours later in a coma and died five days later. A Baptist church in his area picketed his funeral, as well as his murderers’ trial, with hateful, ugly signs and shouts. Do not propagate your evil ignorance about the tragic death of Matthew Shepard on this site … go chat elsewhere with your buddies of like mind
believecommonsense about 15 years ago
oldlego, you’re right about separation of church and state not being in Constitution … thanks for the nudge to look it up and learn more about how it came about
NoFearPup about 15 years ago
Are you sure ‘bout that Acey? BCS I’m just relating what I heard- I’m not impugning anybody, merely pointing out that equating Matthew Shepard’s killers to Christians is a spurious and mistaken charge (from what I know about the situation).
cdward about 15 years ago
NoFearPup, for what it’s worth, I know Matthew Shepherd’s family, and it was no drug deal gone wrong. He was not a drug user. They tortured and killed him solely because he was gay. The Westboro Baptist Church pastored by Fred Phelps picketed his funeral with signs proclaiming that he was now burning in hell. More broadly, our nation’s history shows many examples of church’s trying to take hold of government – a mistake every time. In the 70s, the Moral Majority did not exactly ask for official control of the government, but its proclamations of “this is a Christian country,” started a move in that direction. It is those who are convinced that theirs is the only way and insist that others do as they do (or suffer the consequences) who frighten me the most. They may not have Taliban options in this country (yet) but they do have Taliban sentiments. And no, oldlegodad, it’s not those who are being PC. It’s usually those who hold respect for the views of others in contempt.
HUMPHRIES about 15 years ago
puppy, in over sixty years I have “never” had an atheist bleeep me to He11 because I didn’t believe as tyhe did. Let’s not confuse this with those that have stated their opinions or views that have irrratated me. I have, however, had number of Christians who’ve deemed themselves the equivalent of the Almighty and passed judgement.
johnnydoc5 about 15 years ago
c’mon kids, we know that there are some Christians, (perhaps more than that even) who are quite judgmental and rather close-minded, but do not let them give you a negative impression of all of us. I try my best not to judge anyone, but I know a couple of atheists who ridicule me for my beliefs, but I know that most are better than that and I hold no grudges.