Obama needs to get up and start explaining what he wants with some discipline. Maybe he is just waiting for the Republicans to demonstrate their utter unwillingness to have a discussion on this topic, but if so, he’s waited too long. They’re winning the smear wars. Time to move, dude.
Yes, it’s time Obama said full speed ahead to health care reform. This is one of the main reasons he was elected and it’s time for him to put all his effort into this.
Sadly, Obama wanted bi-partisanship. Unfortunately, to the rump of the Republican Party, that means rolling over and having your tummy tickled by the bozos who lost the last election and lost it big (and would have lost it even bigger if it wasn’t for your rather undemocratic electoral system) .
I respect the President for trying to be ecumenical but his duty now is to the vast majority of Americans who want greater choice of healthcare, not to the birthers, sociopaths and religious nuts who appear to have taken over and destroyed a once proud party.
I don’t understand why he needs the republican approval to make things happen. When the repos were in power they passed the energy bill which gave exxon/mobil and the like public funds to search for new oil wells without a single democratic vote. They also passed the “enviornmental act” that allowed polluters to police themselves, again without a democratic vote.
So enought with the bull feathers Big O! Just get it done!
For 6 years, the Republicans had both houses and the white house. They marched in lock-step making Democrats votes somewhat irrelevant.
The Democrats don’t have the numbers and some are “Blue Dogs.”
It always amazes me when someone asserts how hard W and Crew worked, when in fact they had virtually no opposition. Signing Statements, no other president used them to the extent as W & crew, especially to state the laws didn’t apply to them.
Also, check out what happened to Clinton. He had huge opposition via the Republicans. Accomplishments he made were hard earned. Same for Barrack Obama.
motive, I completely agree. It is time for the Obama administration to be more specific and take the lead. The Dems in Congress have not done healthcare any favors. The powerful factions of maintaining the status quo have taken control of the agenda and discussion, which should not be a surprise.
As far as bipartisanship, I think part of the reason for wanting some Rep votes is that some on the far-right have already indicated they will repeal any law if they have control of both houses in the future. For our country’s sake, I hope that is not in 2010.
Remember that speech of Obama’s in which he said, “There is no red America, or blue America. There is the United States of America.”
It was a good and natural sentiment, but then he got elected as the President of the United States of America, and almost everyone of the red America stripe suddenly turned into mules with an intolerable load – a Democratic president who was, of all things, a black man.
Give it up, President Obama. I know this hurts you, but you can’t get anything done with obstinate mules. You need to turn to the horses that got you elected and put the mules out to pasture where they can do as little harm as possible to the country and its people.
I was so naive. I thought Obama being a decent intelligent guy would inspire bipartisanship for the good of the country. But the GOP only wants to return to power by any lies possible. I thought the rightwing nut jobs and smear tactics would evaporate in light of the truth, but their paranoid schizophrenia remains untreated. I was so naive.
ANady, unfortunately he is not an empty suit. He is a good old fashioned Marxist, together with a cult of personality.
Though it might be argued that anyone unloading them as ‘new ideas’, particularly in the west, after those moronic ideas have been so handily discredited in Europe, not to mention he USSR, is in fact a moron …
What does it make the believers of the ‘new ideas’?
Can I propose a moratorium on the term “Marxist” until someone LEARNS WHAT IT MEANS?!?!?
Excuse me. Obama is a business-friendly moderate. If he’s a Marxist, then Reagan is a Chinese Communist.
Marxism probably does not describe him that well, though he has a Communist or two as czars. His philosophy is actually closer to that of Nietzsche, which is much more broad and therefore so much worse.
However, not too many people are familiar with Nietzsche and so Marxism, which is still in living memory of some, will have to do.
Just for those who think Obama’s been sitting on his hands:
According to The Obameter in Polifact.com, of the more than 500 promises Obama made during his campaign, he has:
Kept: 40
Compromised on: 11
Broken: 7
In the works: 86
(The rest are stalled [12] or have no action yet [360])
That means he has taken positive action (in the works, compromisedon, or kept completely) on greater than 95% of the 144 promises.
To call Obama an atheist or marxist is just plain stupid.
If I’m interpreting the wiki page (since I put my philosophy books in storage) this Nietzsche guy believed in taking care of their fellow man at the expense of denying Gods will. He also believed in the “will to power”, meaning that every living thing will sacrifice its life to attain a higher hierarchy standing among its relevant species. That is why animals in the wild such as male lions will fight fiercely among each other in order to become the leader of the pack.
I find it hard to believe that Obama, running under the guise of Christianity, would renounce God in order to help us out, nor is he the type to take names and kick butt. Otherwise he would not be having these spats with his republican counterparts. He would just get his agenda done by any means necessary.
Kingoswald Premium Member over 14 years ago
It hasn’t made contact yet. And you can’t see him, but Glenn Beck is sitting right behind Obama ….
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
Who needs facts when smears spread faster?
cjr53 over 14 years ago
Are you sure that the muck wasn’t thrown by Glen Beck and a series of right-wing nay-sayers?
Looks like it was aimed at Barrack Obama.
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
Obama needs to get up and start explaining what he wants with some discipline. Maybe he is just waiting for the Republicans to demonstrate their utter unwillingness to have a discussion on this topic, but if so, he’s waited too long. They’re winning the smear wars. Time to move, dude.
deadheadzan over 14 years ago
Yes, it’s time Obama said full speed ahead to health care reform. This is one of the main reasons he was elected and it’s time for him to put all his effort into this.
Kingoswald Premium Member over 14 years ago
Sadly, Obama wanted bi-partisanship. Unfortunately, to the rump of the Republican Party, that means rolling over and having your tummy tickled by the bozos who lost the last election and lost it big (and would have lost it even bigger if it wasn’t for your rather undemocratic electoral system) .
I respect the President for trying to be ecumenical but his duty now is to the vast majority of Americans who want greater choice of healthcare, not to the birthers, sociopaths and religious nuts who appear to have taken over and destroyed a once proud party.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
I don’t understand why he needs the republican approval to make things happen. When the repos were in power they passed the energy bill which gave exxon/mobil and the like public funds to search for new oil wells without a single democratic vote. They also passed the “enviornmental act” that allowed polluters to police themselves, again without a democratic vote.
So enought with the bull feathers Big O! Just get it done!
cjr53 over 14 years ago
Numbers.
For 6 years, the Republicans had both houses and the white house. They marched in lock-step making Democrats votes somewhat irrelevant.
The Democrats don’t have the numbers and some are “Blue Dogs.”
It always amazes me when someone asserts how hard W and Crew worked, when in fact they had virtually no opposition. Signing Statements, no other president used them to the extent as W & crew, especially to state the laws didn’t apply to them.
Also, check out what happened to Clinton. He had huge opposition via the Republicans. Accomplishments he made were hard earned. Same for Barrack Obama.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
you are far better and more practiced at it, Howie
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
motive, I completely agree. It is time for the Obama administration to be more specific and take the lead. The Dems in Congress have not done healthcare any favors. The powerful factions of maintaining the status quo have taken control of the agenda and discussion, which should not be a surprise.
As far as bipartisanship, I think part of the reason for wanting some Rep votes is that some on the far-right have already indicated they will repeal any law if they have control of both houses in the future. For our country’s sake, I hope that is not in 2010.
Kingoswald Premium Member over 14 years ago
The Repugs both hated and opposed Social Security and Medicare, yes? Did they repeal them when next in power? No.
The British Conservatives both hated and opposed the National Health Service. Did they abolish it when next in power? No.
Why? Because they were popular, not least with folks whose votes they needed.
Don’t worry. If Obama gets a healthcare bill through, it’s there for keeps.
Who Dares Wins.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
Kingso, I hope you’re correct. It’s time for Obama to take charge and be bold.
jkshaw over 14 years ago
Remember that speech of Obama’s in which he said, “There is no red America, or blue America. There is the United States of America.”
It was a good and natural sentiment, but then he got elected as the President of the United States of America, and almost everyone of the red America stripe suddenly turned into mules with an intolerable load – a Democratic president who was, of all things, a black man.
Give it up, President Obama. I know this hurts you, but you can’t get anything done with obstinate mules. You need to turn to the horses that got you elected and put the mules out to pasture where they can do as little harm as possible to the country and its people.
fairportfan over 14 years ago
A seasoned poster or two have long since recognised Andy as an empty head.
foxglove16 over 14 years ago
I was so naive. I thought Obama being a decent intelligent guy would inspire bipartisanship for the good of the country. But the GOP only wants to return to power by any lies possible. I thought the rightwing nut jobs and smear tactics would evaporate in light of the truth, but their paranoid schizophrenia remains untreated. I was so naive.
petergrt over 14 years ago
ANady, unfortunately he is not an empty suit. He is a good old fashioned Marxist, together with a cult of personality.
Though it might be argued that anyone unloading them as ‘new ideas’, particularly in the west, after those moronic ideas have been so handily discredited in Europe, not to mention he USSR, is in fact a moron …
What does it make the believers of the ‘new ideas’?
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
Can I propose a moratorium on the term “Marxist” until someone LEARNS WHAT IT MEANS?!?!? Excuse me. Obama is a business-friendly moderate. If he’s a Marxist, then Reagan is a Chinese Communist.
petergrt over 14 years ago
“Obama is a business-friendly moderate.”
Late-night show joke?!?
Marxism probably does not describe him that well, though he has a Communist or two as czars. His philosophy is actually closer to that of Nietzsche, which is much more broad and therefore so much worse.
However, not too many people are familiar with Nietzsche and so Marxism, which is still in living memory of some, will have to do.
cdward over 14 years ago
peter shows he knows nothing.
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
Just for those who think Obama’s been sitting on his hands: According to The Obameter in Polifact.com, of the more than 500 promises Obama made during his campaign, he has: Kept: 40 Compromised on: 11 Broken: 7 In the works: 86
(The rest are stalled [12] or have no action yet [360]) That means he has taken positive action (in the works, compromisedon, or kept completely) on greater than 95% of the 144 promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
If its good for the people its commie talk. Seriously, why do people go against their own best interest?
There were jews for hitler and that didn’t end well for them.
There were blacks for the south. If the south had won, they’d be chained and shackled right now.
There were Unions for Regan. Where are they now?
Motivemagus over 14 years ago
charlie, you seem to assume that 100% of nonvoters would vote against Obama. This is a false assumption.
petergrt over 14 years ago
“peter shows he knows nothing.”
Is that the best you can muster?
Surely you can come up with a better Ad Hominem rebuttal.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
To call Obama an atheist or marxist is just plain stupid.
If I’m interpreting the wiki page (since I put my philosophy books in storage) this Nietzsche guy believed in taking care of their fellow man at the expense of denying Gods will. He also believed in the “will to power”, meaning that every living thing will sacrifice its life to attain a higher hierarchy standing among its relevant species. That is why animals in the wild such as male lions will fight fiercely among each other in order to become the leader of the pack.
I find it hard to believe that Obama, running under the guise of Christianity, would renounce God in order to help us out, nor is he the type to take names and kick butt. Otherwise he would not be having these spats with his republican counterparts. He would just get his agenda done by any means necessary.