Historical argument is a process. An argument is presented, facts/primary sources used to justify that argument are verified or found to be in error. Counterargument(s) are presented and go through the same process. Adjustments are made (or not) and the process continues. That is why prompts like “examine and analyze…”, “to what extent…?” are common when assessing students’ understanding of history.
EVERY generation assesses “history” through their own lens. The “1619 Project” is no different. THAT is what should be made clear to students who are learning ANY history.
You know, Mr. Gorrell, when I was growing up, saying that someone came over on the Mayflower meant they had a PEDIGREE. They were REALLY American, right down to the roots.
I actually have read the 1619 Project. While much is accurate, there are factual errors, the biggest one saying that the Revoluntary War was in any way fought to preserve slavery. Another was conflating the more extreme antebellum slavery practices with generally less harsh ones that prevailed in the 1600s. The viewpoint of 1619 is important and valid, I wish the attention to facts had also been.
Magas and trumpers and desanters love to trash anyone not white, heterosexual, christian men. Pathetic conservatives. They might have their “day” but it most certainly won’t last a full 24 hours.
Peter Wood’s book, 1620: A Critical Response to the 1619 Project, debunks a number of mistruths in the 1619 project. As a serious historian, he identifies the false narrative conjured out of racial grievance. I appreciate the attempt to set history straight, but it needs to be done accurately and factually without the modern prejudices driving the WOKE culture of today.
Of course, the American colonies weren’t founded to enhance slavery. To get ahead (Virginia colony) or religious freedom (Pilgrims). Brits didn’t end slavery until 1833. With the exception of the East India Company. Which held slaves until 1838, I believe. Brits had no reason to end it as they were making money hand over fist for decades,
The reaction of the Right to the 1619 Project shows a that there is a kernel of truth in it’s thesis that Slavery, particularly the kind practiced against Africans, had a huge impact on the development of the 13 Colonies and the founding of our country. Of course there are inaccuracies in the 1619 Project, all histories have them. The only people who know the truth of history are those who lived it, and they are dead. But the criticisms and calls for banning it shows it struck a nerve.
Slave labor built a large part of the original 13 colonies. Slave labor was responsible for the fortunes of many early Americans, including many of our Founding Fathers. The irony of people writing that all men are created equal and complaining about tyranny while they owned people can not be lost on the critics of this work. “Give me liberty or give me death” thundered Patrick Henry, who owned 67 slaves. (In his defense, he believed slavery was evil, but a necessity and fought for it’s abolition – yet he owned 67 of them, so…). Our capitol was built with slave labor. Much of the agriculture that made us prosperous was built and run by slave labor, and not just in the south. Our country has a large debt owed to the slaves who helped us to where we are now.
There is no harm in learning about this. There is no harm in learning about the genocide Europeans committed against the Native peoples who were here before us. If that makes little white children feel guilty then good. It shows they are not sociopaths. Maybe it will lead them to build a world that is more just than the one they inheriting from us. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member about 1 year ago
This strip has the Ron Desantis seal of approval.
Erse IS better about 1 year ago
WOW! (jaw dropped). Pretty blatant, there, Mr. Gorrell.
Kurtass Premium Member about 1 year ago
Is bob saying slavery in America never happened?
GiantShetlandPony about 1 year ago
GOP, rejecting reality on a regular basis.
Havel about 1 year ago
Historical argument is a process. An argument is presented, facts/primary sources used to justify that argument are verified or found to be in error. Counterargument(s) are presented and go through the same process. Adjustments are made (or not) and the process continues. That is why prompts like “examine and analyze…”, “to what extent…?” are common when assessing students’ understanding of history.
EVERY generation assesses “history” through their own lens. The “1619 Project” is no different. THAT is what should be made clear to students who are learning ANY history.
s49nav about 1 year ago
Bob Gorrell gets it right more than occasionally.
Ignatz Premium Member about 1 year ago
You know, Mr. Gorrell, when I was growing up, saying that someone came over on the Mayflower meant they had a PEDIGREE. They were REALLY American, right down to the roots.
Black people were here BEFORE the Mayflower.
Chew on that.
thelordthygod666 about 1 year ago
I actually have read the 1619 Project. While much is accurate, there are factual errors, the biggest one saying that the Revoluntary War was in any way fought to preserve slavery. Another was conflating the more extreme antebellum slavery practices with generally less harsh ones that prevailed in the 1600s. The viewpoint of 1619 is important and valid, I wish the attention to facts had also been.
ChristopherBurns about 1 year ago
How is it fake?
Free Radical about 1 year ago
UP History, revised version by the thieves of US education funds
dkolsen1125 Premium Member about 1 year ago
Have you read the book Bob? I have. Share with me one “fake” idea contained inn it.
librarylady59 about 1 year ago
Magas and trumpers and desanters love to trash anyone not white, heterosexual, christian men. Pathetic conservatives. They might have their “day” but it most certainly won’t last a full 24 hours.
halvincobbes Premium Member about 1 year ago
Full on racist cartoon. Not even trying to hide who you really are anymore. Shame on you.
IndyW about 1 year ago
Peter Wood’s book, 1620: A Critical Response to the 1619 Project, debunks a number of mistruths in the 1619 project. As a serious historian, he identifies the false narrative conjured out of racial grievance. I appreciate the attempt to set history straight, but it needs to be done accurately and factually without the modern prejudices driving the WOKE culture of today.
Saurischia Premium Member about 1 year ago
Read Caste by Isabel Wilkerson.
Rich Douglas about 1 year ago
That’s gonna take an awful lot of whitewash.
Conservative Man about 1 year ago
No just the truth, the 1619 Project is totally fabricated crap.
Interventor12 about 1 year ago
Of course, the American colonies weren’t founded to enhance slavery. To get ahead (Virginia colony) or religious freedom (Pilgrims). Brits didn’t end slavery until 1833. With the exception of the East India Company. Which held slaves until 1838, I believe. Brits had no reason to end it as they were making money hand over fist for decades,
LJZ Premium Member about 1 year ago
“These who deny history are determined to repeat it”
- Bob ‘Gory’ Gorrell
walkingmancomics about 1 year ago
It MUST be fake— WE’RE not like that, REALLY! And, of course, neither were our ancestors-not-so-long-removed! Of COURSE not! grnnnnnnn.
jader3rd about 1 year ago
It was created to get the reader to think of things from a different point of view. Is that scary to you?
Conservative Man about 1 year ago
No just the seal of truth
zerorest about 1 year ago
Not sure if this cartoon is fake or real.
ChristopherBurns about 1 year ago
The reaction of the Right to the 1619 Project shows a that there is a kernel of truth in it’s thesis that Slavery, particularly the kind practiced against Africans, had a huge impact on the development of the 13 Colonies and the founding of our country. Of course there are inaccuracies in the 1619 Project, all histories have them. The only people who know the truth of history are those who lived it, and they are dead. But the criticisms and calls for banning it shows it struck a nerve.
Slave labor built a large part of the original 13 colonies. Slave labor was responsible for the fortunes of many early Americans, including many of our Founding Fathers. The irony of people writing that all men are created equal and complaining about tyranny while they owned people can not be lost on the critics of this work. “Give me liberty or give me death” thundered Patrick Henry, who owned 67 slaves. (In his defense, he believed slavery was evil, but a necessity and fought for it’s abolition – yet he owned 67 of them, so…). Our capitol was built with slave labor. Much of the agriculture that made us prosperous was built and run by slave labor, and not just in the south. Our country has a large debt owed to the slaves who helped us to where we are now.
There is no harm in learning about this. There is no harm in learning about the genocide Europeans committed against the Native peoples who were here before us. If that makes little white children feel guilty then good. It shows they are not sociopaths. Maybe it will lead them to build a world that is more just than the one they inheriting from us. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.
GiantShetlandPony about 1 year ago
The only thing fake is this cartoon.