Actually what it’s time for is to get SCOTUS to actually read the freaking amendment and revise their idiot decision that the first clause doesn’t matter.
The irony is that it’s only the refusal by gun nuts to make any changes at all that precipitates people to even consider a wholesale repeal of the 2nd Amendment.
It doesn’t have to be that way. We know that the restrictions we’ve used in the past work. We just need to be willing to put them in place.
Some people like to ignore the well regulated militia phrase and just hype the right to bear arms segment. They seem to think the US Constitution is like a tree that one can prune at will and still expect it to flourish. Not gonna happen.
Nope it’s not should never be. Just look at the governments that have banned guns around the world . Maybe its time we look at society and the way we are raising children
I think I explained my position adequately over the past couple of days. So when I say that I disagree with this cartoon, it may come as a surprise.
Gun ownership is a necessity for some people. I am a white male who lives in a white, affluent neighborhood. I can depend on my police department to protect me. I do not need to own a gun. Not everyone in my city is so fortunate.
My cousin now lives on a farm in Virginia. He does hunt for deer and kills one per season to stock his freezer. He doesn’t have to do this. He can afford to go to market and buy food. He and his wife choose to raise / hunt for part of what they eat.
He does, on occasion, need to get rid of predators that kill his chickens. He needs a rifle about as much as he needs his truck or tractor.
The point is, there are instances where people need a firearm in their daily existence.
When the Second Amendment was ratified, the United States had a very small standing army. The rule of the day is, “We’re having a war. You’re invited. Bring your own musket.” Therefore we have the wording of “a well regulated militia.”
Today, the “well regulated militia” is under Government control. It’s called the National Guard. Since the average civilian can’t afford fighter aircraft or tanks this is probably a good idea.
So, if you want to kill a lot of people in a short period of time, join the Guard and hopefully, a war will break out soon and you’ll get your wish.
For the average civilian, there should be no need to kill a lot of people in a short period of time. We are not expecting people like my cousin to take his bolt-action rifle into battle to repel a Canadian invasion. There is no reason for people to have military grade weapons.
A handgun is a very logical weapon for personal protection. A rifle is a reasonable weapon in a rural environment. An AR-15 has only one purpose: kill as many things as possible in as short a period to time as possible. It exceeds the needs of the civilian population.
It’s time to acknowledge and implement the “well regulated Militia” part of the Second Amendment. Congress can regulate gun ownership, and they should.
I’m afraid the moment will pass the same way Sandy Hook did. I f we don’t do something soon it will never happen and that’s why the delays and excuses are already being created. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Please note that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms . . .” is a dependent clause. It rests on the need for a well regulated militia [army] which the US did not have at the time. We now HAVE AN ARMY. This amendment is no longer needed.it is time for this amendment to be repealed.
Great idea! Next to go freedom of speech, speedy trials, unreasonable searches, confiscation of property, and the list goes on by the freedom hating left.
Actually the repeal of the STUPID 2nd Amendment won’t be sufficient UNLESS what follows is the TOTAL, COMPLETE and ABSOLUTE abolition of ALL firearms in PRIVATE hands followed by a nationwide CONFISCATION of ALL firearms in PRIVATE HANDS.
Repeal the ‘crazies’. But it’s who decides who the crazies are. Because the United States Army trained me, now I’ll be one because I enjoy target shooting, hunting and collecting history and art through a gun collection?
I have an idea. Something to greet our elected officials on both sides of the House and Senate as they come back to work from their hard-earned, taxpayer-funded vacation weekend.
It would be impractical to stack all the corpses from the multiple mass murders committed in the last week in the Rotunda, but we could have an exhibit. Let’s get pictures of the numerous victims and post them there.
Our brave, elected officials would then have to look at them as they go to their offices or go to vote. They would be forced to put faces of real people with the statistics that they argue over.
Also, I suggest, that in addition to the “yearbook-style” pictures of the deceased faces, they also show pictures of their dead bodies, soaked in blood laying where they were gunned down. A little blood and guts to add to the sterile, academic discussions in which our politicians are now engaged.
Ask them to contemplate that if teaching Critical Race Theory Mathematics to school children is traumatic, what would seeing a classmate being shot to death in front of their eyes do to the?
That’s the problem with our elected officials: they live in Ivory Towers with no contact with the real world.
I absolutely 100% agree. It is time for an effort similar to that which resulted in ratification of the 19th Amendment.
The second amendment’s chief purpose was to avoid the necessity of maintaining a standing army to serve the nation’s defense needs, which our Founders viewed as a threat to liberty. That point has been wholly mooted now. As the amendment is interpreted, it is now a major threat to liberty as well as to life. For example, most of its staunchest proponents are also supporters of Donald Trump, and many have threatened to use that amendment’s (misinterpreted) provisions to install him as a dictator.
No. Instead Enforce the 2nd Amendment. The majority of NRA members, and majority of all Americans favor gun regulations. Former Republican Supreme Court Justice and conservative ‘constitutional originalist’ Antonin Scalia said the 2nd Amendment allows for regulation. Enforce the laws we already have.
Our founding fathers based the 2nd Amendment on what were firearms in that era…. single loading muskets. Had they envisioned assault weapons, they would surely have worded it quite differently.
As a presumably enlightened society, we urgently need stricter regulation of who can purchase such weapons. The problem is, it is likely too late to do that because there are already so many of them out there and even in the unlikely event that the second amendment would be abolished, confiscation of all those weapons would be impossible and an attempt to do so by the government would likely result in a very bloody civil war.
Many more innocent people will be killed including children and our legislators will continue expressing their thoughts and prayers on cue but will realize it’s a problem with no viable solution comparable to the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Bottom line, we have made our bed and must now lie in it…. albeit in a pool of blood from time to time.
The 2nd Amendment worked until the NRA created its own interpretation of it ’sconcept of 2nd, then sent it out there and used it as propaganda to sell more guns.
If I remember correctly there was a gun called the “Saturday Night Special” that was used in a lot of murders in New York and elsewhere. Our goof and responsible government banned ownership or the sale of said guns.
The shredding of the 2nd Amendment is what the Left has wanted for decades, these last two slaughters just gave the spinless blobs an opportunity to say it outside their WOKE Progressive Bubble. Those of Us that chose to exercise that Right have heard your whispers. We also know many of you live lives in fear, afraid of all those things you yourself don’t understand. Honestly, I see this along with your Ministry of Truth is the death gurgle of your progressive movement, curtail Free Speach then come for our Weapons all before we wrestle away America in the next two elections. Revenge is another force at work today, Democrats are ticked off about failed programs like BBB, lock downs and vaccine mandates forces into bodies. Democrats are also apoplectic over the SCOTUS opinion on Roe if pregnant people can’t kill a thing inside them as they see fit well then, we also have the anti-groomer laws passed in Florida that Mickey wasn’t able to stop, election laws passed to stop Democrats from ballot harvesting, IDs required. Mix in the horrid job that babbling Brandon is doing. So sure, let’s have a profound Karen moment and repeal the 2nd Amendment out of spite if for no other reason. You know as long as Free Americans have the ultimate Trump Card [in more ways than DJT] Democrats cannot run roughshod over Rights you yourselves don’t need right now. Really short sighted but that’s what you guys are good at. Remember this …You had better bring yours if you’re coming to take mine. Everyone have a fantastic Memorial Day and don’t forget to remember all those who died to give you the rights to say this garbage.
What they gun nuts don’t understand is if they install the dictator of their choice, they will then lose all of their guns and not just the assault rifles.
The first thing a fascist dictator does is remove all weapons from civilians, even the ones that helped them get into power. Do you really think they’d trust suckers and losers with guns?
It’s just time to be an originalist about it. This amendment is ALL about the right of the people (the state) to have a militia that is “well regulated.”
1 killed, 9 wounded in mass shootings less than 24 hours apart, 30 others wounded or killed by gunfire since Friday evening.
I had to dig for this news. It’s not a headline. It’s so commonplace, that it is no longer newsworthy since ONLY one person was killed. Better luck next time gunmen.
There are good reasons why we have the second amendment. But, it wasn’t meant for political zealots or kids of parents who don’t know how to raise kids.
Trump says gun laws don’t work so let’s keep doing nothing. Trump Jr. says you can kill as many people with a baseball bat. Rep. Romney Jackson (R _Texas of course) says that it’s rap music and video games. I am still waiting for some Republican from Florida to chime in.
Too stupid for words. I am not making this up. I don’t think that the writers for the Three Stooges could come up with a script as silly and unbelievable as the above.
Concretionist almost 2 years ago
Actually what it’s time for is to get SCOTUS to actually read the freaking amendment and revise their idiot decision that the first clause doesn’t matter.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It was time 100 years ago.
Daeder almost 2 years ago
It’s just time to bring it into the modern world.
The irony is that it’s only the refusal by gun nuts to make any changes at all that precipitates people to even consider a wholesale repeal of the 2nd Amendment.
It doesn’t have to be that way. We know that the restrictions we’ve used in the past work. We just need to be willing to put them in place.
sandpiper almost 2 years ago
Some people like to ignore the well regulated militia phrase and just hype the right to bear arms segment. They seem to think the US Constitution is like a tree that one can prune at will and still expect it to flourish. Not gonna happen.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 2 years ago
IT’S FAR PAST THAT TIME!!!
Cue the gunsuckers outrage in 3…2…1…
FrankErnesto almost 2 years ago
We need Alito to study the 2nd amendment carefully, I’m sure he can find that it does not say that we have have the actual right to bear arms.
NeoconMan almost 2 years ago
Repeal the Amendment.
The Nodding Head almost 2 years ago
If there were a god…
chipciof almost 2 years ago
Sure, then we can get rid of the 1st amendment just like the democrats want.
leonardonyc almost 2 years ago
Nope it’s not should never be. Just look at the governments that have banned guns around the world . Maybe its time we look at society and the way we are raising children
dflak almost 2 years ago
I think I explained my position adequately over the past couple of days. So when I say that I disagree with this cartoon, it may come as a surprise.
Gun ownership is a necessity for some people. I am a white male who lives in a white, affluent neighborhood. I can depend on my police department to protect me. I do not need to own a gun. Not everyone in my city is so fortunate.
My cousin now lives on a farm in Virginia. He does hunt for deer and kills one per season to stock his freezer. He doesn’t have to do this. He can afford to go to market and buy food. He and his wife choose to raise / hunt for part of what they eat.
He does, on occasion, need to get rid of predators that kill his chickens. He needs a rifle about as much as he needs his truck or tractor.
The point is, there are instances where people need a firearm in their daily existence.
When the Second Amendment was ratified, the United States had a very small standing army. The rule of the day is, “We’re having a war. You’re invited. Bring your own musket.” Therefore we have the wording of “a well regulated militia.”
Today, the “well regulated militia” is under Government control. It’s called the National Guard. Since the average civilian can’t afford fighter aircraft or tanks this is probably a good idea.
So, if you want to kill a lot of people in a short period of time, join the Guard and hopefully, a war will break out soon and you’ll get your wish.
For the average civilian, there should be no need to kill a lot of people in a short period of time. We are not expecting people like my cousin to take his bolt-action rifle into battle to repel a Canadian invasion. There is no reason for people to have military grade weapons.
A handgun is a very logical weapon for personal protection. A rifle is a reasonable weapon in a rural environment. An AR-15 has only one purpose: kill as many things as possible in as short a period to time as possible. It exceeds the needs of the civilian population.
Havel almost 2 years ago
Just treat it like every other right. Why is it the only right that is treated as if it’s absolute?
suzalee almost 2 years ago
It’s time to acknowledge and implement the “well regulated Militia” part of the Second Amendment. Congress can regulate gun ownership, and they should.
superposition almost 2 years ago
I’m afraid the moment will pass the same way Sandy Hook did. I f we don’t do something soon it will never happen and that’s why the delays and excuses are already being created. Justice delayed is justice denied.
FrannieL Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Please note that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms . . .” is a dependent clause. It rests on the need for a well regulated militia [army] which the US did not have at the time. We now HAVE AN ARMY. This amendment is no longer needed.it is time for this amendment to be repealed.
ragsarooni Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Actually it’s way PAST time……….
HskrPhan almost 2 years ago
Great idea! Next to go freedom of speech, speedy trials, unreasonable searches, confiscation of property, and the list goes on by the freedom hating left.
KALKAY32 almost 2 years ago
Actually the repeal of the STUPID 2nd Amendment won’t be sufficient UNLESS what follows is the TOTAL, COMPLETE and ABSOLUTE abolition of ALL firearms in PRIVATE hands followed by a nationwide CONFISCATION of ALL firearms in PRIVATE HANDS.
j260 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Repeal the ‘crazies’. But it’s who decides who the crazies are. Because the United States Army trained me, now I’ll be one because I enjoy target shooting, hunting and collecting history and art through a gun collection?
dflak almost 2 years ago
I have an idea. Something to greet our elected officials on both sides of the House and Senate as they come back to work from their hard-earned, taxpayer-funded vacation weekend.
It would be impractical to stack all the corpses from the multiple mass murders committed in the last week in the Rotunda, but we could have an exhibit. Let’s get pictures of the numerous victims and post them there.
Our brave, elected officials would then have to look at them as they go to their offices or go to vote. They would be forced to put faces of real people with the statistics that they argue over.
Also, I suggest, that in addition to the “yearbook-style” pictures of the deceased faces, they also show pictures of their dead bodies, soaked in blood laying where they were gunned down. A little blood and guts to add to the sterile, academic discussions in which our politicians are now engaged.
Ask them to contemplate that if teaching Critical Race Theory Mathematics to school children is traumatic, what would seeing a classmate being shot to death in front of their eyes do to the?
That’s the problem with our elected officials: they live in Ivory Towers with no contact with the real world.
diegot almost 2 years ago
My feelings exactly.
Flatworm almost 2 years ago
I absolutely 100% agree. It is time for an effort similar to that which resulted in ratification of the 19th Amendment.
The second amendment’s chief purpose was to avoid the necessity of maintaining a standing army to serve the nation’s defense needs, which our Founders viewed as a threat to liberty. That point has been wholly mooted now. As the amendment is interpreted, it is now a major threat to liberty as well as to life. For example, most of its staunchest proponents are also supporters of Donald Trump, and many have threatened to use that amendment’s (misinterpreted) provisions to install him as a dictator.
ncorgbl almost 2 years ago
No. Instead Enforce the 2nd Amendment. The majority of NRA members, and majority of all Americans favor gun regulations. Former Republican Supreme Court Justice and conservative ‘constitutional originalist’ Antonin Scalia said the 2nd Amendment allows for regulation. Enforce the laws we already have.
Bill D. Kat Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Our founding fathers based the 2nd Amendment on what were firearms in that era…. single loading muskets. Had they envisioned assault weapons, they would surely have worded it quite differently.
As a presumably enlightened society, we urgently need stricter regulation of who can purchase such weapons. The problem is, it is likely too late to do that because there are already so many of them out there and even in the unlikely event that the second amendment would be abolished, confiscation of all those weapons would be impossible and an attempt to do so by the government would likely result in a very bloody civil war.
Many more innocent people will be killed including children and our legislators will continue expressing their thoughts and prayers on cue but will realize it’s a problem with no viable solution comparable to the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Bottom line, we have made our bed and must now lie in it…. albeit in a pool of blood from time to time.
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Just needs to interpreted by a non NRA member with an IQ level higher than 15
NatureBatsLast almost 2 years ago
Nothing lasts, change is inevitable.
FrankErnesto almost 2 years ago
There is a right to bear arms. It does not say guns. Case closed.
banjoAhhh! almost 2 years ago
The 2nd Amendment worked until the NRA created its own interpretation of it ’sconcept of 2nd, then sent it out there and used it as propaganda to sell more guns.
If I remember correctly there was a gun called the “Saturday Night Special” that was used in a lot of murders in New York and elsewhere. Our goof and responsible government banned ownership or the sale of said guns.
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It is time. But I hope Mr. Stahler’s phone and address are unlisted.
Ammo is on a break Premium Member almost 2 years ago
The shredding of the 2nd Amendment is what the Left has wanted for decades, these last two slaughters just gave the spinless blobs an opportunity to say it outside their WOKE Progressive Bubble. Those of Us that chose to exercise that Right have heard your whispers. We also know many of you live lives in fear, afraid of all those things you yourself don’t understand. Honestly, I see this along with your Ministry of Truth is the death gurgle of your progressive movement, curtail Free Speach then come for our Weapons all before we wrestle away America in the next two elections. Revenge is another force at work today, Democrats are ticked off about failed programs like BBB, lock downs and vaccine mandates forces into bodies. Democrats are also apoplectic over the SCOTUS opinion on Roe if pregnant people can’t kill a thing inside them as they see fit well then, we also have the anti-groomer laws passed in Florida that Mickey wasn’t able to stop, election laws passed to stop Democrats from ballot harvesting, IDs required. Mix in the horrid job that babbling Brandon is doing. So sure, let’s have a profound Karen moment and repeal the 2nd Amendment out of spite if for no other reason. You know as long as Free Americans have the ultimate Trump Card [in more ways than DJT] Democrats cannot run roughshod over Rights you yourselves don’t need right now. Really short sighted but that’s what you guys are good at. Remember this …You had better bring yours if you’re coming to take mine. Everyone have a fantastic Memorial Day and don’t forget to remember all those who died to give you the rights to say this garbage.
bow493 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
I don’t think so.
Rich Douglas almost 2 years ago
It sure is.
Radish the wordsmith almost 2 years ago
“well regulated” says the 2nd amendment to the Constitution, mass murder of children is not well regulated.
AndrewSihler almost 2 years ago
There’s nothing wrong with the amendment as written. As it has been rewritten, it’s a menace.
AtomicForce91 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
How about we get rid of free speech that hurts people’s feelings while we are at it?Oh wait…
GiantShetlandPony almost 2 years ago
What they gun nuts don’t understand is if they install the dictator of their choice, they will then lose all of their guns and not just the assault rifles.
The first thing a fascist dictator does is remove all weapons from civilians, even the ones that helped them get into power. Do you really think they’d trust suckers and losers with guns?
cdward almost 2 years ago
It’s just time to be an originalist about it. This amendment is ALL about the right of the people (the state) to have a militia that is “well regulated.”
dflak almost 2 years ago
1 killed, 9 wounded in mass shootings less than 24 hours apart, 30 others wounded or killed by gunfire since Friday evening.
I had to dig for this news. It’s not a headline. It’s so commonplace, that it is no longer newsworthy since ONLY one person was killed. Better luck next time gunmen.
Corsair977 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
There are good reasons why we have the second amendment. But, it wasn’t meant for political zealots or kids of parents who don’t know how to raise kids.
dflak almost 2 years ago
Trump says gun laws don’t work so let’s keep doing nothing. Trump Jr. says you can kill as many people with a baseball bat. Rep. Romney Jackson (R _Texas of course) says that it’s rap music and video games. I am still waiting for some Republican from Florida to chime in.
Too stupid for words. I am not making this up. I don’t think that the writers for the Three Stooges could come up with a script as silly and unbelievable as the above.