No Mr Breen, you’ve got this backwards. Democracy works best when money flows UP. GOP prefers money gets stuck in the upper 5% (2% if they can manage it). Government is Not Kitchen Table Economics…and Trickle Down is BS.
Unfortunately, Breen seems to have lost the fact that this is spread out over 10 years. That’s $350M a year, less than we spend for a lot of things including the Last Occupant’s tax cut and spend scam, not to mention this is an investment, not a giveaway. It pays back in increased jobs, employment, and the ability to compete with the other modern nations on an equal footing.
Want to cut it in half? Halve the time to 5 years, and BAM, It’s down to $1.75T, and if Biden and the Dems get reelected and hold Congress, they can pass a bill to extend it the next 5 years.
Hey kids! My uncle has a barn and there’s costumes in grandma’s attic. Let’s put on a play where we finally make everybody pay their fair share and stop paying for wars that we don’t belong in to start with, and never find directly (so we have to strip money from “unnecessary” things, like education and healthcare). We could call it “Billionaires and Corporations that Have Paid Little or Nothing in Taxes for Decades, We’re Coming For You!” Gee kids, let’s get started. It’ll be a blast!
Well, the Dems are beginning the whittling process. It was expected that Biden would put forward a mega plan and then, like the roads and bridges bill, reduce it to something votable. We wonder why he couldn’t have done this in the first place. But, then the bill would end up being a pittance with practically no real effect on the nation.
Probably a lot of fat could be trimmed.. but, which senator is going to give up his share of the bacon? Seems the only way anything gets done anymore is if the right groups get.. rewarded. Blackmail is such an ugly word.. but surely it is appropriate.
cut the traditional “bi-partisan” pork bill. . and maybe pare down the other one a bit . . .rescind the Bush/Trump tax cuts . . .and the nation will be better off
It really is a wonder that all that most people can talk about (and therefore, presumably, think about) is the price tag, rather than considering the many and great and lasting benefits to the common good that would result. The Pubicans can br partially excused because, philosophically, they seem to doubt that there is any such thing as “common good”, just as the ever-compassionate and far-seeing Maggie Thatcher couldn’t comprehend “society”.
Like all Socialists YOU’VE got it wrong. You cannot spend your way out of a financial disaster. That’s why the Soviet Empire folded. The Soviet Ruble had NO VALUE! They may as well had printed it on toilet paper. It’s not like a mail-in-ballot. You cannot just keep printing them and handing them out.
MAYBE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER IF THE US GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN PROPERLY SPENDING MONEY ON INFRASTUCTURE OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES INSTEAD OF EXCESS MILITARY SPENDING AND GIVING TAX BREAKS TO THE ULTRA-WEALTHY WHO DON’T $#%&ING NEED IT!!!!
The thing the Republicans hate the worst from the Build Back Better Bill is that it requires oversight. Which makes it a lot harder for them to steal money from the bill.
True to form, the Republicans will try to take credit for the success of the bill once it’s passed.
BTW, this bill is money spent over the course of 10 years. Which is why 3.5 really isn’t enough in the greater scheme of things.
Oh, yeah, it is also funded unlike Trump and all of the Republican tax cuts given to the rich, who did not need them. Trump’s tax cut in particular, is adding to the debt as we type.
George W. Bush owes Obama for largely making adjustments to reduce the cost to America that W.’s foolish tax cuts followed by two very expensive wars. Remember, President Clinton had managed to get America into a surplus of money, which should have been used to pay off the debt. Sadly, Republicans truly believe deficit spending is better than financed spending.
A way to lead the world (and move past China) is to enhance the resources available to all Americans. For that to happen, the 3.5 trillion is an excellent downpayment. This also would lessen the extremely destructive financial divide. Bailing out the billionaires and trillionaires, which we’ve done multiple times, does not help the nation as a whole, nor the world. The overweight Shrek in reality are the top 600 wealthiest individuals and families in the world who benefited the most from the 2017 tax cut. As Peter Phillips shows in his book, Giants: The Global Power Elite, the people in this group are highly interconnected on the boards of and as owners of the largest financial holdings in the world. In fact, Shrek would not be big enough to represent their relative weight.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
Axiom: When Democrats spend money, it’s bad
Axiom: GQP is always right
Therefore, the GQP always complains about Dems spending money.
QED
Pgalden1 Premium Member over 2 years ago
No Mr Breen, you’ve got this backwards. Democracy works best when money flows UP. GOP prefers money gets stuck in the upper 5% (2% if they can manage it). Government is Not Kitchen Table Economics…and Trickle Down is BS.
Patjade over 2 years ago
Unfortunately, Breen seems to have lost the fact that this is spread out over 10 years. That’s $350M a year, less than we spend for a lot of things including the Last Occupant’s tax cut and spend scam, not to mention this is an investment, not a giveaway. It pays back in increased jobs, employment, and the ability to compete with the other modern nations on an equal footing.
Want to cut it in half? Halve the time to 5 years, and BAM, It’s down to $1.75T, and if Biden and the Dems get reelected and hold Congress, they can pass a bill to extend it the next 5 years.
FrankErnesto over 2 years ago
Compromize with Republicans means they get everything they wanted, and you get some of what you wanted.
piper_gilbert over 2 years ago
Or just transfer 82% of it to the super wealthy.
Display over 2 years ago
Hey kids! My uncle has a barn and there’s costumes in grandma’s attic. Let’s put on a play where we finally make everybody pay their fair share and stop paying for wars that we don’t belong in to start with, and never find directly (so we have to strip money from “unnecessary” things, like education and healthcare). We could call it “Billionaires and Corporations that Have Paid Little or Nothing in Taxes for Decades, We’re Coming For You!” Gee kids, let’s get started. It’ll be a blast!
preacherman over 2 years ago
Well, the Dems are beginning the whittling process. It was expected that Biden would put forward a mega plan and then, like the roads and bridges bill, reduce it to something votable. We wonder why he couldn’t have done this in the first place. But, then the bill would end up being a pittance with practically no real effect on the nation.
sandiegokid over 2 years ago
Maybe it would be easier if obstructive Republicans would help.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 2 years ago
Probably a lot of fat could be trimmed.. but, which senator is going to give up his share of the bacon? Seems the only way anything gets done anymore is if the right groups get.. rewarded. Blackmail is such an ugly word.. but surely it is appropriate.
MitchellTimin over 2 years ago
It’s only half of defense spending.
codak over 2 years ago
cut the traditional “bi-partisan” pork bill. . and maybe pare down the other one a bit . . .rescind the Bush/Trump tax cuts . . .and the nation will be better off
Monchoxyz over 2 years ago
If it was that easy it would have been done years ago.
AndrewSihler over 2 years ago
It really is a wonder that all that most people can talk about (and therefore, presumably, think about) is the price tag, rather than considering the many and great and lasting benefits to the common good that would result. The Pubicans can br partially excused because, philosophically, they seem to doubt that there is any such thing as “common good”, just as the ever-compassionate and far-seeing Maggie Thatcher couldn’t comprehend “society”.
braindead Premium Member over 2 years ago
Breen, maybe you can enumerate which parts of the bill you want to get rid of.
How many limbs do you want to eliminate?
[Unnamed Reader - 52dc91] over 2 years ago
Like all Socialists YOU’VE got it wrong. You cannot spend your way out of a financial disaster. That’s why the Soviet Empire folded. The Soviet Ruble had NO VALUE! They may as well had printed it on toilet paper. It’s not like a mail-in-ballot. You cannot just keep printing them and handing them out.
Daeder over 2 years ago
MAYBE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER IF THE US GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN PROPERLY SPENDING MONEY ON INFRASTUCTURE OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES INSTEAD OF EXCESS MILITARY SPENDING AND GIVING TAX BREAKS TO THE ULTRA-WEALTHY WHO DON’T $#%&ING NEED IT!!!!
{Sheesh!}
GiantShetlandPony over 2 years ago
The thing the Republicans hate the worst from the Build Back Better Bill is that it requires oversight. Which makes it a lot harder for them to steal money from the bill.
True to form, the Republicans will try to take credit for the success of the bill once it’s passed.
BTW, this bill is money spent over the course of 10 years. Which is why 3.5 really isn’t enough in the greater scheme of things.
Oh, yeah, it is also funded unlike Trump and all of the Republican tax cuts given to the rich, who did not need them. Trump’s tax cut in particular, is adding to the debt as we type.
George W. Bush owes Obama for largely making adjustments to reduce the cost to America that W.’s foolish tax cuts followed by two very expensive wars. Remember, President Clinton had managed to get America into a surplus of money, which should have been used to pay off the debt. Sadly, Republicans truly believe deficit spending is better than financed spending.
Rich Douglas over 2 years ago
Republicans aren’t afraid of the spending. They’re not thrilled about what it is being spent ON, but that’s not their real issue.
They’re real issue is raising taxes on their most powerful and wealthy patrons and businesses.
Soulfulpsy Premium Member over 2 years ago
A way to lead the world (and move past China) is to enhance the resources available to all Americans. For that to happen, the 3.5 trillion is an excellent downpayment. This also would lessen the extremely destructive financial divide. Bailing out the billionaires and trillionaires, which we’ve done multiple times, does not help the nation as a whole, nor the world. The overweight Shrek in reality are the top 600 wealthiest individuals and families in the world who benefited the most from the 2017 tax cut. As Peter Phillips shows in his book, Giants: The Global Power Elite, the people in this group are highly interconnected on the boards of and as owners of the largest financial holdings in the world. In fact, Shrek would not be big enough to represent their relative weight.