Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have been saying that there is no urgency to passing the reconciliation bill that includes the INVESTMENTS in social infrastructure, as if the need for JOBS and getting women and care providers back into the productive employment cycle was somehow not urgent enough.
Now, however, with Mitch McMoscow doing Putin’s bidding to try to completely collapse the American economy with not only a government shutdown but a first-ever default, it forces Democrats to add the increase (or elimination or restructuring) of the debt ceiling into the reconciliation bill. And now, in order to prevent total economic chaos, there becomes a fixed, urgent, time-sensitive deadline which completely eliminates any possibility that Manchin could now ask, “What’s the urgency?”
I saw on Lawrence O’Donnell’s Tuesday night show, Norm Ornstein of American Enterprise Institute, an expert on budgetary economics, pointing to a bottle of wine on the shelf behind him, and say, in reference to the fact that McMoscow’s intransigence has dialed up the urgency, that if McMoscow is the one who forces Manchin and Sinema to get on board, he will pour a glass from that bottle and personally offer a toast to Mitch McMoscow.
Manchin is hoping for a lucrative coal industry lobbying job. Not realizing wind and solar energy are going to take the place of coal no matter how much lobbying the coal industry does.
‘I’m sick of his face’: Stevie Van Zandt doesn’t want to see Joe Manchin on TV ever again
“You know, I mean, I’m rooting for Joe Biden every single day, I really am, you know? I just — I just got this terrible feeling, you know, and I’ve had this for a long, long time that we’re in a war and only one side is fighting it and I’ve been feeling that for decades,” Van Zandt said. “It’s really coming to a very serious place now where we might lose our democracy because of it, you know? And I just just, I’m not happy with what’s going on here.”
Thank God for Manchin and Sinema. Bret Stephens of the N.Y. Times thinks they should just say “No” to save the dems from themselves and thereby avoid turning the Congress over to the Republicans in 2022.
The interesting thing about this whole scenario is that Manchin, Sinema and rest of the “let’s think this over real slow” crowd is that everything they’re blocking is very popular in their home states so they’re obviously NOT listening to their constituencies – Krysten is about a half-step away from a “No Confidence” vote being issued by her state party, while Manchin’s state, West Virginia, is planning to replace Joe with a Trump clone because they’re all racist idiots, evidently.
Stupid assed Democrats in Congress and the Senate better get off their high horses and get this passed. Suck it up assholes or there is going to be an entire country of enraged honest Democrats out for your blood! We put up with trumps and his repubbies crap long enough and we are getting sick of it!
I suspect that the way this will play out is that Manchin and Sinema will eventually vote for the Democratic package and there’ll be a big uptick in federally funded projects in West Virginia and Arizona. I suspect it, but I’m not gonna put any money on it. (Money being, of course, the primary behind-the-scenes driver of where they’ll come down in the end.)
sipsienwa Premium Member over 2 years ago
I think manchin needs to quit enjoying the power so much.
DD Wiz Premium Member over 2 years ago
Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have been saying that there is no urgency to passing the reconciliation bill that includes the INVESTMENTS in social infrastructure, as if the need for JOBS and getting women and care providers back into the productive employment cycle was somehow not urgent enough.
Now, however, with Mitch McMoscow doing Putin’s bidding to try to completely collapse the American economy with not only a government shutdown but a first-ever default, it forces Democrats to add the increase (or elimination or restructuring) of the debt ceiling into the reconciliation bill. And now, in order to prevent total economic chaos, there becomes a fixed, urgent, time-sensitive deadline which completely eliminates any possibility that Manchin could now ask, “What’s the urgency?”
I saw on Lawrence O’Donnell’s Tuesday night show, Norm Ornstein of American Enterprise Institute, an expert on budgetary economics, pointing to a bottle of wine on the shelf behind him, and say, in reference to the fact that McMoscow’s intransigence has dialed up the urgency, that if McMoscow is the one who forces Manchin and Sinema to get on board, he will pour a glass from that bottle and personally offer a toast to Mitch McMoscow.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
Exactly. Strategic FOR WHICH GROUP?.
Answer: For the group that want’s Biden to fail at every effort… and whose ultimate aim seems to be to cause the Great Experiment to fail.
GiantShetlandPony over 2 years ago
Manchin is hoping for a lucrative coal industry lobbying job. Not realizing wind and solar energy are going to take the place of coal no matter how much lobbying the coal industry does.
Same2Ubuddy over 2 years ago
The most powerful man in the country does the right thing. Thanks, West Virginia!
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
‘I’m sick of his face’: Stevie Van Zandt doesn’t want to see Joe Manchin on TV ever again
“You know, I mean, I’m rooting for Joe Biden every single day, I really am, you know? I just — I just got this terrible feeling, you know, and I’ve had this for a long, long time that we’re in a war and only one side is fighting it and I’ve been feeling that for decades,” Van Zandt said. “It’s really coming to a very serious place now where we might lose our democracy because of it, you know? And I just just, I’m not happy with what’s going on here.”
https://www.rawstory.com/joe-manchin-filibuster-2655189888/
larryculley over 2 years ago
Thank God for Manchin and Sinema. Bret Stephens of the N.Y. Times thinks they should just say “No” to save the dems from themselves and thereby avoid turning the Congress over to the Republicans in 2022.
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 2 years ago
Nice Manchin cariciature.
wellis1947 Premium Member over 2 years ago
The interesting thing about this whole scenario is that Manchin, Sinema and rest of the “let’s think this over real slow” crowd is that everything they’re blocking is very popular in their home states so they’re obviously NOT listening to their constituencies – Krysten is about a half-step away from a “No Confidence” vote being issued by her state party, while Manchin’s state, West Virginia, is planning to replace Joe with a Trump clone because they’re all racist idiots, evidently.
Gary Williams Premium Member over 2 years ago
Another Moscow Mitch wannabe
SammySnyder over 2 years ago
Do the progressives understand that a strategic pause is necessary for the defibrillator to recharge? Otherwise it is just a useless waste of energy.
cactusjack99 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Stupid assed Democrats in Congress and the Senate better get off their high horses and get this passed. Suck it up assholes or there is going to be an entire country of enraged honest Democrats out for your blood! We put up with trumps and his repubbies crap long enough and we are getting sick of it!
willie_mctell over 2 years ago
Translation: “My vote is worth more than your current offer.”
FreyjaRN Premium Member over 2 years ago
Manchin & Sinema are idiots.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 2 years ago
I suspect that the way this will play out is that Manchin and Sinema will eventually vote for the Democratic package and there’ll be a big uptick in federally funded projects in West Virginia and Arizona. I suspect it, but I’m not gonna put any money on it. (Money being, of course, the primary behind-the-scenes driver of where they’ll come down in the end.)
bakana over 2 years ago
Joe Man Chin thinks what he is paid to think.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Right wing traitors in the dem ranks will give the country over to the vicious lying anti democracy republicans.