Oh, c’mon. He’s been patient, but this is an INTERNATIONAL PANDEMIC that is a threat to the entire nation, that is being resisted only by idiots and ideologues. It’s not the first time vaccines have been required – that would be GEORGE WASHINGTON.
Why is it that, when they declare something to be unconstitutional, right wingers never point the article and section that it violates? More often than not, if asked, they point to the 10th amendment, so as to say that it is up to you to prove that it isn’t unconstitutional.
First of all, it’s not unconstitutional to protect the general welfare. But strangely, Stantis and the other Qubs were just fine with X-45 running all over the constitution on a daily basis in golf shoes, and ignoring the welfare of 650K American citizens with his COVID shennanigans.
SCOTUS has several times upheld the right of the Feds to enforce use of vaccines. Everybody (almost) in the USA is vaccinated against a variety of ailments, some vaccines are required before you can enter public grade school; and more before you can leave and then return to the US. This cartoon and the dozen or two like it are deliberate and malicious lies. They should, imo, be sufficient cause for the ’toonists to be tried for malfeasance.
just remember this: those too stupid to get vaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from covid. Think of it as evolution in action. the smart live, the stupid die.
The antivaxxers aren’t just endangering themselves, they are endangering everyone else. I had a breakthrough case after being fully vaccinated. But, more importantly, they are serving as mobile petri dishes for the next varient of the virus, and they get stronger as they mutate.
(OT but after reading the paper this am I am pissed)The RQP is attempting to lay all the blame for Afghanistan on Biden. Sen Inhofe-R-OK stated in a press conference that the GQP goal was to drive a wedge between Biden and the military.Thus the entire GQP is attempting to rewrite history, again.(like they continue to do by pretending that Bush the younger simply never existed) The fact that T**** was the one who surrendered to the Taliban, that EVERYONE in Afghanistan was informed in April that the US was leaving by the end of Aug and they needed to get out. I guess they ASSUMED the US and NATO would never leave. Now the GQP are totally ignoring the emails that prove beyond any shadow of doubt that T**** attempted to pull out all US soldiers in Jan 2021 when he had less than 2 weeks remaining in office. He also wanted to totally abandon the Afghans who help the military for 20 years. Because T**** along with the current iteration of the Qpublican Party are racists.
Oh yes, I also read this am that T****s butt boy Pence called Dan Quale(remember him? GHWs VP-the guy who could not spell Potato)to try and figure out a way he could worm around the laws and stage a coup declaring T**** president on Jan 6. Quale-amazingly enough-told Pence there wasn’t any way he could do that.
So Pence wasn’t showing he had a spine or anything else that day, he was and remains T****s #1 butt boy. no b@!!s no brains
Scott Stantis certainly doesn’t know anything about the Constitution. Mandatory vaccinations and inoculations have been something that can be made mandatory since the days of George Washington.
The only ones violating the rights, freedoms and liberties in the Constitutiion are the AntiVaxxers and Anti-Maskers because they are stealing away their rights of everyone else to interact with society in public safely.
They have no rights or freedoms in this case, because EVERYONE ELSE’S rights, freedoms and liberties supersede their whiny. selfish, irresponsible demands for undue privilege and special treatment.
There is no right, freedom or liberty anywhere to be a Public Heath Hazard, and those who insist there is neither understand the Constitution, or Rights whatsoever.
You, and the Zero-Information Cult Sleep are the Oppressors, not the other way around, fascist.
bet you simpleton scott has a polio vaccine…tetanus vaccine…smallpox vaccine… and he probably is in the closet about having the covid vaccine….typical …‘’do as i say…. not as i do….’’ come on SS ( great initials for a tRumpie) tell the truth…or right…you don’t know it…
Posting this in response to the Engineer’s and Ape’s comment/question.
Jacobsen vs Massachusetts was a state issue not a Federal. It is also well over 100 years old and is doubtful it would stand today if challenged.
Regarding the Engineer’s constitutional question, its answered all the time. Perhaps you’re not paying attention. In this case, Biden tried to do an end run around the law, constitution and separation of powers, by ordering OSHA to mandate vaccinations in the workplace. Biden also selected certain groups of people to get jabbed while exempting others, most noticeably the USPS. Now think about that one. The postal service is arguably the largest single group of people who are in direct and indirect contact with the general population of the US. Why exempt them? Heheh the postal Union would be first in line to file a lawsuit on the constitutionality. Right off it violates the “equal application” rules under the Constitution.
Separation of powers, who has oversight and control over OSHA? Here’s a hint, it ain’t the POTUS. Congress has oversight and control over OSHA. Biden doesn’t have the constitutional authority to order OSHA to do anything.
If you look at the congressional regulation establishing OSHA you’ll see that it has NO authority to mandate vaccinations. I’ve read it and such power doesn’t exist. Prove me wrong. You won’t because you can’t.
This tramples all over State’s rights. The federal government has no authority under the constitution to mandate this. The States “might” under Jacobson vs Massachusetts but if challenged today it stands a very good chance of being reversed.
Exactly. Suspend the Constitution when people are afraid of the flu. Good job! Hermann Goering would be so proud of the Democratic party. His ideological children. Good job! Spread the fear, promise safety in exchange for freedom. . . so many gullible fools.
Since Crackhead Rosie posted 7 days post-facto, and then did a victory dance witnessed by no-one, I thought I’d do similar (only 5 days later).
First, you are correct that the SCOTUS case most directly relevent to the question was wrt/ a state law, and is 100 years old. I’ve not heard any legal scholars state that it would likely be reversed if before the court today. I think that’s fantasy, and would suggest that opposition to school vaccination surely would have followed that course were it likely to work.
Second, your assertion that Joe Biden has no authority to direct a federal agency like OSHA is pure BS. He is the executive, and all agencies fall under the direction of the executive. It is true that congress passes the laws which an agency regulates with. If they are unhappy with an agencies regulations (enterpretation of the guiding laws) they are free to step in and correct the laws. To my knowledge they have not done that here.
Third, OSHA is charged with ensuring health and safety in the workplace. Just because vaccination is not explicitly mentioned in the laws wrt/ OSHA does not mean it cannot be a factor.
Fourth, try to keep up. Here’s the latest on the postal service:
Motivemagus over 2 years ago
Oh, c’mon. He’s been patient, but this is an INTERNATIONAL PANDEMIC that is a threat to the entire nation, that is being resisted only by idiots and ideologues. It’s not the first time vaccines have been required – that would be GEORGE WASHINGTON.
julie.mason1 Premium Member over 2 years ago
The Qpublicans never read far enough in the Constitution to reach the phrase “promote the general Welfare”.
Retired engineer over 2 years ago
Why is it that, when they declare something to be unconstitutional, right wingers never point the article and section that it violates? More often than not, if asked, they point to the 10th amendment, so as to say that it is up to you to prove that it isn’t unconstitutional.
casonia2 over 2 years ago
First of all, it’s not unconstitutional to protect the general welfare. But strangely, Stantis and the other Qubs were just fine with X-45 running all over the constitution on a daily basis in golf shoes, and ignoring the welfare of 650K American citizens with his COVID shennanigans.
DrDon1 over 2 years ago
So, just what point is Stantis trying to make here?
[ Appears that he is just pissing in the soup… ]
Concretionist over 2 years ago
SCOTUS has several times upheld the right of the Feds to enforce use of vaccines. Everybody (almost) in the USA is vaccinated against a variety of ailments, some vaccines are required before you can enter public grade school; and more before you can leave and then return to the US. This cartoon and the dozen or two like it are deliberate and malicious lies. They should, imo, be sufficient cause for the ’toonists to be tried for malfeasance.
Sun over 2 years ago
Republicans make America safe, Democrats make America dangerous.
VadimUzdensky1 over 2 years ago
Show me the spot in the Constitution that says that vaccine mandates are illegal.
jessie d. Premium Member over 2 years ago
We have a long history of requiring vaccinations. The GOP as always opposes anything of merit to help Americans.
944im Premium Member over 2 years ago
just remember this: those too stupid to get vaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from covid. Think of it as evolution in action. the smart live, the stupid die.
wsedrel Premium Member over 2 years ago
Stantis is much more even-handed in “Prickly City”.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 2 years ago
The antivaxxers aren’t just endangering themselves, they are endangering everyone else. I had a breakthrough case after being fully vaccinated. But, more importantly, they are serving as mobile petri dishes for the next varient of the virus, and they get stronger as they mutate.
Bendarling1 over 2 years ago
Trump
braindead Premium Member over 2 years ago
“The White House’s weaponization of government agencies is an all-out assault on civil liberties.” — Scott Stantis on Counterpoint.
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Scott, you probably consulted with Bill Barr to come up with this one, right?
Or maybe you went to Mar-a-lago to visit The Messiah hisself?
timbob2313 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Oh yes, I also read this am that T****s butt boy Pence called Dan Quale(remember him? GHWs VP-the guy who could not spell Potato)to try and figure out a way he could worm around the laws and stage a coup declaring T**** president on Jan 6. Quale-amazingly enough-told Pence there wasn’t any way he could do that.
So Pence wasn’t showing he had a spine or anything else that day, he was and remains T****s #1 butt boy. no b@!!s no brains
randolini Premium Member over 2 years ago
Patjade over 2 years ago
Scott Stantis certainly doesn’t know anything about the Constitution. Mandatory vaccinations and inoculations have been something that can be made mandatory since the days of George Washington.
https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/GW&smallpoxinoculation.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/08/29/george-washington-smallpox-inoculation-army/
If Stantis had ever gone to school or served in the military, he would have had to have mandatory vaccinations.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/records/schools.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK220954/
If you’ve ever gone to certain locations overseas, you have to have certain vaccinations.
https://www.medicinenet.com/do_you_need_vaccinations_before_traveling_abroad/views.htm
So take your phony Constitution propaganda and shove it, Stantis. You don’t have the Constitutional right to infect and kill people around you.
Suede Civilian over 2 years ago
Idiotic, as usual, from Stupid Stantis.
The only ones violating the rights, freedoms and liberties in the Constitutiion are the AntiVaxxers and Anti-Maskers because they are stealing away their rights of everyone else to interact with society in public safely.
They have no rights or freedoms in this case, because EVERYONE ELSE’S rights, freedoms and liberties supersede their whiny. selfish, irresponsible demands for undue privilege and special treatment.
There is no right, freedom or liberty anywhere to be a Public Heath Hazard, and those who insist there is neither understand the Constitution, or Rights whatsoever.
You, and the Zero-Information Cult Sleep are the Oppressors, not the other way around, fascist.
Zebrastripes over 2 years ago
SOMEONE HAD TO TAKE THE BULL BY THE HORNS!
With GOP, DEATH BECOMES THEM…..FrankErnesto over 2 years ago
Mandates are legal, and Constitutional. This administration is still trying reason, and common sense. Like trying to convince a box of rocks.
kennnyp over 2 years ago
bet you simpleton scott has a polio vaccine…tetanus vaccine…smallpox vaccine… and he probably is in the closet about having the covid vaccine….typical …‘’do as i say…. not as i do….’’ come on SS ( great initials for a tRumpie) tell the truth…or right…you don’t know it…
Kracklin Rosie - “Tolo Dan Nan Galad” Premium Member over 2 years ago
Posting this in response to the Engineer’s and Ape’s comment/question.
Jacobsen vs Massachusetts was a state issue not a Federal. It is also well over 100 years old and is doubtful it would stand today if challenged.
Regarding the Engineer’s constitutional question, its answered all the time. Perhaps you’re not paying attention. In this case, Biden tried to do an end run around the law, constitution and separation of powers, by ordering OSHA to mandate vaccinations in the workplace. Biden also selected certain groups of people to get jabbed while exempting others, most noticeably the USPS. Now think about that one. The postal service is arguably the largest single group of people who are in direct and indirect contact with the general population of the US. Why exempt them? Heheh the postal Union would be first in line to file a lawsuit on the constitutionality. Right off it violates the “equal application” rules under the Constitution.
Separation of powers, who has oversight and control over OSHA? Here’s a hint, it ain’t the POTUS. Congress has oversight and control over OSHA. Biden doesn’t have the constitutional authority to order OSHA to do anything.
If you look at the congressional regulation establishing OSHA you’ll see that it has NO authority to mandate vaccinations. I’ve read it and such power doesn’t exist. Prove me wrong. You won’t because you can’t.
This tramples all over State’s rights. The federal government has no authority under the constitution to mandate this. The States “might” under Jacobson vs Massachusetts but if challenged today it stands a very good chance of being reversed.
C over 2 years ago
Republicans are so funny.
Bill.Franklin over 2 years ago
Exactly. Suspend the Constitution when people are afraid of the flu. Good job! Hermann Goering would be so proud of the Democratic party. His ideological children. Good job! Spread the fear, promise safety in exchange for freedom. . . so many gullible fools.
rmremail over 2 years ago
I see somebody is trying to fill (poorly) Jerry Holbert’s shoes (he was a right leaning comic, he retired)
359mxn over 2 years ago
You are also free to jump off a cliff or blow your brains out. I’m waiting.
gnorth22 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Since Crackhead Rosie posted 7 days post-facto, and then did a victory dance witnessed by no-one, I thought I’d do similar (only 5 days later).
First, you are correct that the SCOTUS case most directly relevent to the question was wrt/ a state law, and is 100 years old. I’ve not heard any legal scholars state that it would likely be reversed if before the court today. I think that’s fantasy, and would suggest that opposition to school vaccination surely would have followed that course were it likely to work.
Second, your assertion that Joe Biden has no authority to direct a federal agency like OSHA is pure BS. He is the executive, and all agencies fall under the direction of the executive. It is true that congress passes the laws which an agency regulates with. If they are unhappy with an agencies regulations (enterpretation of the guiding laws) they are free to step in and correct the laws. To my knowledge they have not done that here.
Third, OSHA is charged with ensuring health and safety in the workplace. Just because vaccination is not explicitly mentioned in the laws wrt/ OSHA does not mean it cannot be a factor.
Fourth, try to keep up. Here’s the latest on the postal service:
https://www.postaltimes.com/postalnews/white-house-clarifies-usps-workers-will-be-subject-to-vaccine-mandate/
rossevrymn over 2 years ago
Stantisferuberlame