Also, I have a question which may be stupid but if anyone has any knowledge, can someone explain why we can’t provide mRNA vaccines to people who have the virus?
If I remember correctly, mRNA vaccines are made so that it teaches the cell how to produce the proteins for the Coronavirus and trigger an immune response to the body to fight it off.
Could you just be vaccinated while you have the virus to teach your body how to fight it off with the mRNA then after it creates the proteins, have the proteins fight the real Coronavirus? (If that makes sense).
Once again, this is probably a stupid question and I have no training in practicing medicine or the finer details about how vaccines work (other than the basic overview).
This is pretty sad, because I actually learned that some people were asking for the vaccine on their dying hospital beds, just to be told it was already too late! (╥﹏╥)
This could be another disillusioned spirit talking from the grave, as in Edgar Lee Masters’ “Spoon River Anthology,” e.g. a take-off on “Jacob Godbey” —
From what I’ve read, quite a few of those being hospitalized didn’t get their shots because they just didn’t get around to it, not necessarily because of an anti-fax stance. To die from laziness: how insane is that?
It’s sad to see those with a poor/inadequate understanding of probabilities endangering their lives and the lives of others by following an irrational, unfounded, contrarian, potentially-lethal, belief.
We have not, as yet, found an effective, compassionate way … to help those with this impediment or even to realize that they have this impediment in their dealing with reality.
IMHO, some in political leadership need to be charged with murder. They deliberately spread misinformation, which led to people dying. Let’s say there is a runaway train, and you have the power to stop it. However, you don’t and keep telling people that everything is fine. The eventual train crash causes many people to die. Are you guilty of murder or not?
Well, it seems more and more you are FINALLY seeing some of the Qpublican leaders and Legislators saying “Get the Vaccine” but ONLY after they have spent WEEKS in the Hospital themselves suffering from “The Democratic Hoax” that “Vanished when it got hot”!
The anti-vaxxers assume that the COVID shot is a cure. It is not – it is a preventative measure. And it becomes potentially less preventative as anti-vaxxers provide themselves as petri dishes for the virus to mutate…
The truly insane anti-vaxxers aren’t reachable, but I hope that the average basic stupid people MIGHT be. For the truly insane, no remedy and no hope. They think that there are microchips in the vaccine. They might as well think that there are microchips in their breakfast cereal. We should feed these twerps to Tony the Tiger—he probably needs more protein in his diet!
“I don’t think there’s one approach. I think it’s authenticity more than anything else. The worst thing you can do is have a consultant-driven campaign that tests what you should and shouldn’t say. People just want to be talked to in a normal way. I think that’s the thing — we use language that you would never use when speaking with your neighbor. So much time in running a campaign is spent on the phone talking to people who have money, then you talk about what am I going to say on my TV commercial? You have poll-testing on messages, all that stuff. So by the time the majority of people hear you speak, you haven’t really talked to anybody.”
Daeder over 2 years ago
Pretty much a true story.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
Too soon dead, too late smart.
ImDaRealAni over 2 years ago
Too late.
Also, I have a question which may be stupid but if anyone has any knowledge, can someone explain why we can’t provide mRNA vaccines to people who have the virus?
If I remember correctly, mRNA vaccines are made so that it teaches the cell how to produce the proteins for the Coronavirus and trigger an immune response to the body to fight it off.
Could you just be vaccinated while you have the virus to teach your body how to fight it off with the mRNA then after it creates the proteins, have the proteins fight the real Coronavirus? (If that makes sense).
Once again, this is probably a stupid question and I have no training in practicing medicine or the finer details about how vaccines work (other than the basic overview).
RAGs over 2 years ago
Some of them would still not take the vaccine.
imagenesis over 2 years ago
This is pretty sad, because I actually learned that some people were asking for the vaccine on their dying hospital beds, just to be told it was already too late! (╥﹏╥)
PraiseofFolly over 2 years ago
This could be another disillusioned spirit talking from the grave, as in Edgar Lee Masters’ “Spoon River Anthology,” e.g. a take-off on “Jacob Godbey” —
“How did you feel, You libertarians
Who spent your talents rallying ignoble reasons
Against the health advisements, as if Liberty
Was not to be found anywhere except on Fox News
Or at a bar, bloviating …
Did it occur to you that personal liberty
Is liberty of the well-informed mind
Rather than of the bellicose pundit?”
Zev over 2 years ago
From what I’ve read, quite a few of those being hospitalized didn’t get their shots because they just didn’t get around to it, not necessarily because of an anti-fax stance. To die from laziness: how insane is that?
superposition over 2 years ago
It’s sad to see those with a poor/inadequate understanding of probabilities endangering their lives and the lives of others by following an irrational, unfounded, contrarian, potentially-lethal, belief.
We have not, as yet, found an effective, compassionate way … to help those with this impediment or even to realize that they have this impediment in their dealing with reality.
FrankErnesto over 2 years ago
Would ‘thoughts and prayers’ be appropriate at this time?
NobodyAwesome Premium Member over 2 years ago
IMHO, some in political leadership need to be charged with murder. They deliberately spread misinformation, which led to people dying. Let’s say there is a runaway train, and you have the power to stop it. However, you don’t and keep telling people that everything is fine. The eventual train crash causes many people to die. Are you guilty of murder or not?
NRHAWK Premium Member over 2 years ago
All excellent points, but my question is who is Doug and why is his headstone the only other readable one?
cpiller Premium Member over 2 years ago
This is one scenario where “Better late than never” definitely does not fly.
Zebrastripes over 2 years ago
Vaccine or embalming fluid….your choice!
TheChief Premium Member over 2 years ago
Who was Doug?
Masterskrain Premium Member over 2 years ago
Well, it seems more and more you are FINALLY seeing some of the Qpublican leaders and Legislators saying “Get the Vaccine” but ONLY after they have spent WEEKS in the Hospital themselves suffering from “The Democratic Hoax” that “Vanished when it got hot”!
Michael G. over 2 years ago
Culling.
retpost over 2 years ago
The saddest that I heard was a nurse who held the hand dying patients at their end of life because no family could be there.
danketaz Premium Member over 2 years ago
At last! Someone to use all those expired doses that the health crews couldn’t get anyone to take.
piper_gilbert over 2 years ago
Seems to be a lot of death bed regrets lately.
ferddo over 2 years ago
The anti-vaxxers assume that the COVID shot is a cure. It is not – it is a preventative measure. And it becomes potentially less preventative as anti-vaxxers provide themselves as petri dishes for the virus to mutate…
Godfreydaniel over 2 years ago
The truly insane anti-vaxxers aren’t reachable, but I hope that the average basic stupid people MIGHT be. For the truly insane, no remedy and no hope. They think that there are microchips in the vaccine. They might as well think that there are microchips in their breakfast cereal. We should feed these twerps to Tony the Tiger—he probably needs more protein in his diet!
braindead Premium Member over 2 years ago
I think this should be interesting for people who criticize Democrats. Long, but conversational and I think it hits right where it should.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/1/2043301/-This-might-be-the-key-to-turning-rural-America-blue-again-and-defeating-Trumpist-disinformation?utm_campaign=trending
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Excerpt:
“I don’t think there’s one approach. I think it’s authenticity more than anything else. The worst thing you can do is have a consultant-driven campaign that tests what you should and shouldn’t say. People just want to be talked to in a normal way. I think that’s the thing — we use language that you would never use when speaking with your neighbor. So much time in running a campaign is spent on the phone talking to people who have money, then you talk about what am I going to say on my TV commercial? You have poll-testing on messages, all that stuff. So by the time the majority of people hear you speak, you haven’t really talked to anybody.”
Kip Williams over 2 years ago
“Sorry, the vaccine’s rejecting you now.”