I noted the blurb in the paper back on the 25th but I didn’t find a way to slide a mention into any of my posts that evening. The Greasy-grass fight took place a day or two after Crazy Horse militarily stalled Crook’s component along the Rosebud. Crook was the other jaw in the intended pincer move that was supposed to gather all the free First Peoples and force them onto the reservation. Eventually that end was achieved but not before the Army harassed the Sioux and Cheyenne mercilessly for months afterward.
Greatest enemy? Well, in some sense, maybe. But William Cody and other buffalo slaughterers probably killed more Native Americans from starvation than Custer killed in his campaigns.
I’ve visited the Little Big Horn site. You don’t have to be a trained military tactician to see that Custer’s placement of his troops was incredibly stupid.
There was another Civil War hero who was close to Custer in age but far less flamboyant named Emory Upton, who happened to be a distant relative of mine. Upton and Custer were sometimes seen as rivals.
Once in researching him I cam across an excerpt from a report written by a superior officer comparing the two. The superior wrote that Upton was “Custer’s equal in dash, and by far his superior in brains.”
Apparently Custer was not as highly regarded as Hollywood would have had you believe.
We have our historical local genocidal scumbags here to on the east coast. The names Tom Quick and Abraham Bevier come to mind. Old Tom is the only one who still killed after he was dead. He purposely contracted smallpox and spread it to local tribes, after he died he grave was dug up by local tribes people and his corpse was scalped, his scalp was then passed from village to village further spreading the disease. They just recently began scrubbing Mr. Quicks name off local establishments and such.
Someone above mentioned that they had been to the Little Big Horn Battle Field. Another interesting Custer site is his family’s burial plot, in Monroe Michigan.
Custer was born and raised in Ohio, but spent alot of his youth with his sisters family, in Monroe. This is where most of the other Custers killed at the Little Big Horn ended up being buried.
I went to Monroe several years ago, not looking for Custer’s grave, but looking for information on another massacre, the River Raisin Massacre. I teach 8th grade social studies in Kentucky. Kentucky has about six counties named after Kentucky militia men who died at the Battle of Frenchtown (in Monroe, MI) during the War of 1812.
The Americans were totally unprepared for battle in a brutal Michigan winter. They also had inexperienced and foolish leadership. The British and Pottawatomie, Shawnee and Wyandot warriors (all part of Tecumseh’s Confederacy) easily defeated the Americans. When the Americans retreated they abandoned their wounded. These were taken prisoner by the Pottawatomie. It is unclear but about 30 – 100 prisoners were killed because they could not keep up while being escorted to Fort Detroit. This is called the River Raisin Massacre.
Custer would have known this story growing up. He would have heard these stories told by men who had witnessed them. He would have been raised on tales of “Indian Atrocities”. I am not defending Custer, he was an arrogant, racist ass. No doubt he only heard the American’s side, which told of those “Indian Atrocities”. I see little evidence anywhere how he may have ever seen the Native Americans as people, worthy of respect.
Custer was a product of his time. Twisted by the violent history between the Americans and the Native Americans. We need to honest with ourselves and see him for what he was; a willing tool in the on-going American subjugation of the Indigenous Peoples.
I would be interested to know how Mr. Two Bulls feels about Oliver Howard.
Known as the “Christian general” because he tried to base his policy decisions on his deep, evangelical piety,1 he was given charge of the Freedmen’s Bureau in mid-1865, with the mission of integrating the former slaves into Southern society and politics during the second phase of the Reconstruction Era. Howard took charge of labor policy, setting up a system that required freed people to work on former plantation land under pay scales fixed by the Bureau, on terms negotiated by the Bureau with white land owners. Howard’s Bureau was primarily responsible for the legal affairs of the freedmen. He attempted to protect freed blacks from hostile conditions, but lacked adequate power, and was repeatedly frustrated by President Andrew Johnson.[…]After 1874, Howard commanded troops in the West, conducting a famous campaign against the Nez Perce tribe. Utley (1987) concludes that his leadership against the Apaches in 1872, against the Nez Perce in 1877, the Bannocks and Paiutes in 1878, and against the Sheepeaters in 1879 all add up to a lengthy record, although he did not fight as much as George Custer and Nelson Miles.2
“Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the old world, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.”https://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/what-to-the-slave-is-the-fourth-of-july/
Daeder almost 3 years ago
Suddenly I want some custard.
wiatr almost 3 years ago
I noted the blurb in the paper back on the 25th but I didn’t find a way to slide a mention into any of my posts that evening. The Greasy-grass fight took place a day or two after Crazy Horse militarily stalled Crook’s component along the Rosebud. Crook was the other jaw in the intended pincer move that was supposed to gather all the free First Peoples and force them onto the reservation. Eventually that end was achieved but not before the Army harassed the Sioux and Cheyenne mercilessly for months afterward.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Greatest enemy? Well, in some sense, maybe. But William Cody and other buffalo slaughterers probably killed more Native Americans from starvation than Custer killed in his campaigns.
anne o almost 3 years ago
Hooray for Victory Day!
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Remember, the Native Peoples were the ORIGINAL “Department of Homeland Security” fighting against the waves of Illegal immigrants.
ArtyD2 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I’d vote for Andy Jackson
katzenbooks45 almost 3 years ago
I’ve visited the Little Big Horn site. You don’t have to be a trained military tactician to see that Custer’s placement of his troops was incredibly stupid.
Newenglandah almost 3 years ago
There was another Civil War hero who was close to Custer in age but far less flamboyant named Emory Upton, who happened to be a distant relative of mine. Upton and Custer were sometimes seen as rivals.
Once in researching him I cam across an excerpt from a report written by a superior officer comparing the two. The superior wrote that Upton was “Custer’s equal in dash, and by far his superior in brains.”
Apparently Custer was not as highly regarded as Hollywood would have had you believe.
Ontman almost 3 years ago
And then there are residential schools…..
brwydave Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Gerry Owen
Same2Ubuddy almost 3 years ago
Little Bighorn shows what the Indians could accomplish when they lay off the hooch.
Teto85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Custer had it coming. Remember folks, Marty is one of the three cartoonists denied a Pulitzer this year, they should have given it to all three.
Space_cat almost 3 years ago
We have our historical local genocidal scumbags here to on the east coast. The names Tom Quick and Abraham Bevier come to mind. Old Tom is the only one who still killed after he was dead. He purposely contracted smallpox and spread it to local tribes, after he died he grave was dug up by local tribes people and his corpse was scalped, his scalp was then passed from village to village further spreading the disease. They just recently began scrubbing Mr. Quicks name off local establishments and such.
Packratjohn Premium Member almost 3 years ago
As horrific as custer was allowed to be, my disgust is focused on chevington and the Sand Creek massacre.
Durak Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Someone above mentioned that they had been to the Little Big Horn Battle Field. Another interesting Custer site is his family’s burial plot, in Monroe Michigan.
Custer was born and raised in Ohio, but spent alot of his youth with his sisters family, in Monroe. This is where most of the other Custers killed at the Little Big Horn ended up being buried.
I went to Monroe several years ago, not looking for Custer’s grave, but looking for information on another massacre, the River Raisin Massacre. I teach 8th grade social studies in Kentucky. Kentucky has about six counties named after Kentucky militia men who died at the Battle of Frenchtown (in Monroe, MI) during the War of 1812.
The Americans were totally unprepared for battle in a brutal Michigan winter. They also had inexperienced and foolish leadership. The British and Pottawatomie, Shawnee and Wyandot warriors (all part of Tecumseh’s Confederacy) easily defeated the Americans. When the Americans retreated they abandoned their wounded. These were taken prisoner by the Pottawatomie. It is unclear but about 30 – 100 prisoners were killed because they could not keep up while being escorted to Fort Detroit. This is called the River Raisin Massacre.
Custer would have known this story growing up. He would have heard these stories told by men who had witnessed them. He would have been raised on tales of “Indian Atrocities”. I am not defending Custer, he was an arrogant, racist ass. No doubt he only heard the American’s side, which told of those “Indian Atrocities”. I see little evidence anywhere how he may have ever seen the Native Americans as people, worthy of respect.
Custer was a product of his time. Twisted by the violent history between the Americans and the Native Americans. We need to honest with ourselves and see him for what he was; a willing tool in the on-going American subjugation of the Indigenous Peoples.
I would be interested to know how Mr. Two Bulls feels about Oliver Howard.
errolm1937 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Best bumper sticker I ever saw-“Custer had it coming”!
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 3 years ago
Some items from Wikipedia on Oliver Howard.
Known as the “Christian general” because he tried to base his policy decisions on his deep, evangelical piety,1 he was given charge of the Freedmen’s Bureau in mid-1865, with the mission of integrating the former slaves into Southern society and politics during the second phase of the Reconstruction Era. Howard took charge of labor policy, setting up a system that required freed people to work on former plantation land under pay scales fixed by the Bureau, on terms negotiated by the Bureau with white land owners. Howard’s Bureau was primarily responsible for the legal affairs of the freedmen. He attempted to protect freed blacks from hostile conditions, but lacked adequate power, and was repeatedly frustrated by President Andrew Johnson.[…]After 1874, Howard commanded troops in the West, conducting a famous campaign against the Nez Perce tribe. Utley (1987) concludes that his leadership against the Apaches in 1872, against the Nez Perce in 1877, the Bannocks and Paiutes in 1878, and against the Sheepeaters in 1879 all add up to a lengthy record, although he did not fight as much as George Custer and Nelson Miles.2
pamela welch Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Another excellent entry into the annals of cartoon-dom; thanks Marty ♥
grumpypophobart almost 3 years ago
And we haven’t learned a damn thing. Australia, like many other colonised countries, still treats its indigenous peoples atrociously.
cageywayne almost 3 years ago
“Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the old world, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.”https://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/what-to-the-slave-is-the-fourth-of-july/