I’m told that some orchestras now “interview” musicians who are already seated behind a screen when the jury enters the hall. Can’t see ‘em, can’t hear the sound of their walking which is very likely gender-revealing. Just the music. Because they did a double-“blind” test in which the same jury heard the women and men applicants twice, once with the screen, once without, and the results were … revealing.
My problem with this is that it seems like every time a glass ceiling is broken and women ARE let into a place or position, the first thing they seem to do is insist that the place change to accommodate them, instead of them accommodating themselves to what is already there. Example: decades of screaming and yelling to be let into the military. Finally it happened, and everything was ok originally. Then the new Feminists arrived and insisted that various physical levels be changed for them because “after pregnancy a woman’s abdominals won’t allow her to do certain exercises optimally”. Then it was insistence on changing various dress codes for hair, make-up and jewellery. The military gave in to them, and then had to make changes to allow the men more leeway as well. Strangely enough, the women who broke that ceiling 30 years ago disagree: “We would never have asked for special treatment, we insisted on being treated exactly the same!”
In business, nowadays a woman enters a company and starts by telling people they have to change their language, their body language, the jokes they tell, the way they leave toilet seats etc etc etc ad infiinitum. Personally I wouldn’t let a woman into MY company because it would make life hell for all the men. Example: any woman who had her eyes on a better position could easily get rid of the competition simply by stating “He touched me inappropriately”. And don’t think there aren’t women out there who wouldn’t stoop to such ploys as a way to get ahead!
Such analyses were the major reason I left corporate America. . .didn’t matter WHO “completed” them, they were usually time-consuming and utterly useless to us foot soldiers in the trenches.
Clearly you’re a man. I’m a female executive and I work 10x harder and temper everything down so it doesn’t sound b!tchy. But if a man says the exact same thing, he’s ‘leadership’ material.
Do f it were a perfect world, the top brass would (like everyone else) get paid for what they need. One hose with a room for each kid plus possibly 2 extra rooms, only one car per legal driving age person, and cost of living. In other words, no rich, no poor. All completely equal financially and everything else. If the person can work and refuses to, they do not get financial aid.
Yes, promote him immediately…so we can blame him for all of our problems before firing him for daring to say that what we do is wrong. Oh, wait – it’s a woman? Well, do everything she says, and the board will publicly take all the credit – oh, and maybe move her to one or two offices closer to a corner. A fine example of what is known as the Paula Principle at work – “Women are not allowed to be promoted to their level of incompetence.”
My sister used to work in the corporate world, and was a top producer. When she was given less of a raise than the one given to a man who wasn’t doing as good a job as she, she asked her boss why. He said, “Well, I guess it’s because you’re a married woman, and he has a family to support.” He actually said that out loud, she sued, and they settled.
Look at data from WSJ, Pew Research, 50/50 Women on Boards, Brookings,…etc. The percentage of women (and minorities) in upper management and in boardrooms is increasing, although not as fast as many want. The only demographic group that is decreasing are white men.
In my life, about 50% of my bosses were female, and in my opinion, 100% of them have not been given an equal voice and pay because of gender. I would work for or with any of them again. This continues to be a problem in the world, and it is worse outside the US. Companies are much better off when they are led by leaders with a wide array of experiences and beliefs than a narrow set of like minded individuals.
It gets worse:“Oh, and she’s also autistic.”“In that case, fire her!” I find it strange how we consider ourselves “woke” these days when people with special needs are still discriminated against and persecuted.
Maybe we could drop gender bias, change it to who will kill the Spyder in the Shower. Personal Plumbing is less important than total buy in to company life…nothing else matters when it comes to profit.
Data:- Population in the USA: 51.1 % female vs 48.9 % male - Only 29% of senior management is female.- 33 Fortune 500 companies are led by female CEOs (that’s only 6% !).- Only 12.5% of American women are employed as Chief Financial Officers in Fortune 500 Companies.- Female CEOs are more likely to be fired than male CEOs.
Love love love. Thank you for the reality check for people who still, unbelievably, have no idea what we are up against. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
I have had this comic laminated and hanging in my work office for a couple of decades. I wish I could say that things have changed but it is as true today as it was 20-some years ago.
EasternWoods almost 3 years ago
Gender bias. Racial bias. Class bias
marilynnbyerly almost 3 years ago
It must be that time of the month for her.
sirbadger almost 3 years ago
I think that it would be extremely unusual for this to happen in real life.
WGillete almost 3 years ago
Welcome to “Adventures in Reality.”
Concretionist almost 3 years ago
I’m told that some orchestras now “interview” musicians who are already seated behind a screen when the jury enters the hall. Can’t see ‘em, can’t hear the sound of their walking which is very likely gender-revealing. Just the music. Because they did a double-“blind” test in which the same jury heard the women and men applicants twice, once with the screen, once without, and the results were … revealing.
Alexander the Good Enough almost 3 years ago
Alright. So what happens when it turns out that the writer is a “they?”
TonysSon almost 3 years ago
Can’t break through a bulletproof glass ceiling.
Bilan almost 3 years ago
This strip lost plausibility in the fifth panel, before it was even mentioned that it’s a woman.
And how did both of them change ties right in the middle of talking?
FreyjaRN Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Why do I feel the urge to beat someone with my crutches?
Doug K almost 3 years ago
I understand the point, but …
Is the purpose here to show a problem or create a problem?
Is it meant to stir up division or create unity?
Carolyn Saunders almost 3 years ago
Corpy McCorp-Pants – well done the UK for introducing the ubiqitous “Mc” names
Henrik1969 almost 3 years ago
Uh-uh deja-vu: https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2001/09/16
TwilightFaze almost 3 years ago
I get what the cartoon is saying, but I honestly lost it at “Corpy McCorp-Pants”
ObiJoan almost 3 years ago
Thumbs down.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 3 years ago
And she only gets 82 cents for every dollar her male counterparts make and way less than the waste of space CEO!
Pogostiks Premium Member almost 3 years ago
My problem with this is that it seems like every time a glass ceiling is broken and women ARE let into a place or position, the first thing they seem to do is insist that the place change to accommodate them, instead of them accommodating themselves to what is already there. Example: decades of screaming and yelling to be let into the military. Finally it happened, and everything was ok originally. Then the new Feminists arrived and insisted that various physical levels be changed for them because “after pregnancy a woman’s abdominals won’t allow her to do certain exercises optimally”. Then it was insistence on changing various dress codes for hair, make-up and jewellery. The military gave in to them, and then had to make changes to allow the men more leeway as well. Strangely enough, the women who broke that ceiling 30 years ago disagree: “We would never have asked for special treatment, we insisted on being treated exactly the same!”
In business, nowadays a woman enters a company and starts by telling people they have to change their language, their body language, the jokes they tell, the way they leave toilet seats etc etc etc ad infiinitum. Personally I wouldn’t let a woman into MY company because it would make life hell for all the men. Example: any woman who had her eyes on a better position could easily get rid of the competition simply by stating “He touched me inappropriately”. And don’t think there aren’t women out there who wouldn’t stoop to such ploys as a way to get ahead!
Qiset almost 3 years ago
Punish her, Make her Vice President.
Pat S Premium Member almost 3 years ago
yeah way to common,
Lenavid almost 3 years ago
Wow! We should have laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender. Of course, these days it would require several laws.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 3 years ago
This would be funnier if it wasn’t so sad…and sadly accurate!
1953Baby almost 3 years ago
Such analyses were the major reason I left corporate America. . .didn’t matter WHO “completed” them, they were usually time-consuming and utterly useless to us foot soldiers in the trenches.
sandpiper almost 3 years ago
Note that this corporate office, like most, is located at the highest point. That’s because the toilets work better at flushing crap to lower floors.
paul GROSS Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Wiley is still living in 1950. Companies bend over backwards to promote women today.
akachman Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Lived it for the past 4 decades. Truth.
preacherman almost 3 years ago
After “…pretty schrill, doesn’t it…” comes the question, but is she pretty? We could use something good looking to ogle on the board.
Mama says so almost 3 years ago
Clearly you’re a man. I’m a female executive and I work 10x harder and temper everything down so it doesn’t sound b!tchy. But if a man says the exact same thing, he’s ‘leadership’ material.
jessie d. Premium Member almost 3 years ago
just another variant of mansplaining.
JosephShriver almost 3 years ago
Do f it were a perfect world, the top brass would (like everyone else) get paid for what they need. One hose with a room for each kid plus possibly 2 extra rooms, only one car per legal driving age person, and cost of living. In other words, no rich, no poor. All completely equal financially and everything else. If the person can work and refuses to, they do not get financial aid.
morningglory73 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Haha…cup o’ corp.
klapre almost 3 years ago
Maybe I missed it. What’s the problem here?
rmfrye Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Sad, but with a ring of reality.
KEA almost 3 years ago
oo burn
del_grande Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Yes, promote him immediately…so we can blame him for all of our problems before firing him for daring to say that what we do is wrong. Oh, wait – it’s a woman? Well, do everything she says, and the board will publicly take all the credit – oh, and maybe move her to one or two offices closer to a corner. A fine example of what is known as the Paula Principle at work – “Women are not allowed to be promoted to their level of incompetence.”
Elder Lee Fox almost 3 years ago
I like the logo of the top-of-the-chain organization.
Mario500 almost 3 years ago
(imagines “HIM”, “HE”, and “HIS” being used as gender neutral pronouns)
Dianna Brown almost 3 years ago
Think again.
Lola85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
My sister used to work in the corporate world, and was a top producer. When she was given less of a raise than the one given to a man who wasn’t doing as good a job as she, she asked her boss why. He said, “Well, I guess it’s because you’re a married woman, and he has a family to support.” He actually said that out loud, she sued, and they settled.
mpolo11 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Darn near hysterical. (
53comics53 almost 3 years ago
Again with the “um.”
ira.crank almost 3 years ago
Look at data from WSJ, Pew Research, 50/50 Women on Boards, Brookings,…etc. The percentage of women (and minorities) in upper management and in boardrooms is increasing, although not as fast as many want. The only demographic group that is decreasing are white men.
ImaginaryFriend almost 3 years ago
In my life, about 50% of my bosses were female, and in my opinion, 100% of them have not been given an equal voice and pay because of gender. I would work for or with any of them again. This continues to be a problem in the world, and it is worse outside the US. Companies are much better off when they are led by leaders with a wide array of experiences and beliefs than a narrow set of like minded individuals.
tad1 almost 3 years ago
It gets worse:“Oh, and she’s also autistic.”“In that case, fire her!” I find it strange how we consider ourselves “woke” these days when people with special needs are still discriminated against and persecuted.
MTH Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Oh Please, Wiley
harliquin almost 3 years ago
Zinger
MFRXIM Premium Member almost 3 years ago
This is how we got saddled with the 45th president.
Buckeye67 almost 3 years ago
No glass ceiling at that company, it’s solid concrete.
scaeva Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Sounds like S.O.P. for corporations.
Drgnslr Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I noticed that the first SpaceX launch to the space station had a lot of women involved in the explanation, countdown, and launch crew engineers.
csenhose almost 3 years ago
Wiley is getting senile.
forestkat2015 almost 3 years ago
heartbreaking for those of us who have lived through it
Ka`ōnōhi`ula`okahōkūmiomio`ehiku Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The top-level corp, >U corp has just changed its name:
We>she.
Ammo is on a break Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Maybe we could drop gender bias, change it to who will kill the Spyder in the Shower. Personal Plumbing is less important than total buy in to company life…nothing else matters when it comes to profit.
Egjen Skis Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Data:- Population in the USA: 51.1 % female vs 48.9 % male - Only 29% of senior management is female.- 33 Fortune 500 companies are led by female CEOs (that’s only 6% !).- Only 12.5% of American women are employed as Chief Financial Officers in Fortune 500 Companies.- Female CEOs are more likely to be fired than male CEOs.
eboosler Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Love love love. Thank you for the reality check for people who still, unbelievably, have no idea what we are up against. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
ElJorro almost 3 years ago
The truth hurts…
keenanthelibrarian almost 3 years ago
The more things change, the more … you know the rest.
pchemcat almost 3 years ago
I have had this comic laminated and hanging in my work office for a couple of decades. I wish I could say that things have changed but it is as true today as it was 20-some years ago.
ron almost 3 years ago
A daily occurrence in Corporate life. And woe to any male who supports a woman in that role. Sign me “been there, done that”.
Patinphx Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Wiley, for truth in ‘comic’ commentary.
Papa2Dawg Premium Member almost 3 years ago
You are spot on Wiley!!! Thanks for putting this out there.
as85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Yes.
cwg almost 3 years ago
Doesn’t work like that.