Chip Bok for November 10, 2020

It’s difficult to like people who support a racist child abuser.

No, Bok, it’s not so much that people “hate Trump” as they hate the damage he and his “people” have done to the United States" and its citizens.

Amen. It will take a lot of repairing, not just a buffing….

How DO you start to get along with someone who was perfectly willing to vote for a traitor, and arguably the murderer of more than 100,000 of our citizens? A misogynist? A grifter and con man? Someone who celebrated caging children and grabbing women without their consent? HOW?

https://www.arcamax.com/politics/fromtheleft/leonardpittsjr/s-2438078

I pity them, I am dismayed by them, I am somewhat disgusted by them, but I don’t hate them.

Time to fight back.

What did the repubs say to the libs for the last 12 years? Forget your feelings.

Only they used a different F word.

More red whine, Bok? You seem to have had enough already.

Bok- Do you realize that half the country has an IQ less than 100? In Nevada in 2016 Trump said “We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated!”

Snopes.com validated the quote as true.

Chip, it is YOU, and YOUR GUY, and the other Trump Disciples who continue to express hatred.

Why do you and Trump Disciples have to LIE about everything?

This statement holds truth, but it also holds true that many on the right feel the same way about Biden. So what now?Well, America has a choice. We can move on, move up, and realize that those people across the aisle are our neighbors, friends, family, and co-workers. Or, we can keep steering our craft of hate heedlessly tow ards towards destruction like we were sailing the Pequod with Captain Ahab.

A long time ago (375 B.C.) Plato noted in his book The Republic that the uneducated crowd was the fatal flaw in the concept of democracy. In his interview with the British Journal THE Financial Times June 2019 Putin outlined how the growth of national populism would make liberal democracies obsolete as the public turned against immigration, open borders and multiculturalism.

To quote Mr. T, “I pity the fools.”

Actually, it IS depressing that nearly half the voters opted for a known tax fraud, a known crook who simply doesn’t pay his bills and bilked hundreds of contractors out of their pay, a known liar with thousands of verified lies, a man known to be charged with more than 20 cases of sexual abuse including rape of a minor, a known racist who once ran an ad demanding the death penalty for five innocent young men (and when they were proven innocent said he still thought they should have been executed), a known supporter of Nazis, a known draft dodger, a known science-denier responsible for the world’s worst COVID-19 response…. it’s baffling. We know it’s not about jobs because jobs grew at a faster rate (and better jobs) under Obama. We know it has nothing to do with international security because we are currently a pariah state at our weakest and with the least influence we’ve had in a century. So yes, it does make us wonder WHAT could attract people to him — other than the desire to be angry and best the other guy.

Sorry, I pity them. I don’t hate them.

Yes, I do. That’s part of the reason I hate him. He perverted good, hinest Americans into thinking that it is OK to be a racist and hate women.

NO BOK you Schmuck! Biden won by 5 Million votes.

The Dems have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 elections.

This is the modern price of appeasing the slave sates.

The Dems and the Libs don’t hate the Trumpers nearly as much as the Trumpers hate Libs.

Bannon wants to decapitate BEHEAD Fauchi and The FBI Director Chris Wray.

Bannon is the FOUNDER OF TRUMPISIM almost as much as Trump is himself.

https://www.gocomics.com/think/2020/11/10

I note that Trumpers have said in the last weeks and days that they just want to “own the libs”, “make the libs cry”, “never accept Biden as president.” I note that they are the people who tried to kidnap a sitting governor. They are the ones who bring guns to rallies and threaten and scream in the faces of poor grocery store clerks who are required to remind them to wear masks.

You realize that more people voted for Clinton than voted for Trump, more voted for Gore than for Bush, and the 47 Democratic senators represent more people than the 53 Republicans don’t you Chip?

A sad truth.

Curious. A comment on HATE, from the side that has HATE as it’s foundation.

True Believers by Eric Hoffer helped me understand these human beings and why they joined – and/or trumped up their Trump cult. The GOP politicians are along for the ride… they have no beliefs or principles. Just want to keep the power and end equality for others.

Unlike horseshoes and grenades, close does not count here.

Would be nice to live in a country where half the citizens don’t hate the other half. But you have to notice that trump calls for hate at his rallies, while Biden calls for reconciliation.

Trump’s entire playbook centered around sowing division and hatred and now you’re upset that he succeeded!!?? Bok you’ve been defending this behavior for four years maybe you should spend the next four helping to clean up the mess.

Just so the rest of you know, I don’t respond to montanabill — I find him too much of a troll.

True, nearly half did vote for trump.. but the question is, of that number how many voted for trump.. or the party. I have a hard time believing that the majority of the millions that voted for trump did so because they think “trump”.. is/was a good president.

Jessica Wildfire wrote a very interesting article entitled “Trump Won, No Matter What happens Next”. He and Putin have divided America for their personal gain.

Republicans prove every day that they are losers.

Did Trump-haters really say that? I hate Trump, and what he stands for (read: narcissism, fascism, xenophobia, incompetence), but I understand that his supporters got duped, and I don’t hate them.

We know some of the answers, but these are still important questions: what is the appeal of Trump for his supporters? What is the appeal of regressive policies for people who will be hurt by them? The people who voted for Trump and who vote for other Republicans are not a monolith, so there has to be a range of answers. I think the Democrats have done a very poor job of explaining to people that progressive policies are good for ordinary working people. Partly this is the legacy of McCarthyism. The Republicans throw the word “socialist” around with abandon, and without much real meaning, if any. It’s just a convenient slur. The Democrats overwhelmingly are simply not socialists, not even Sanders. But there’s a group of people who feel that they have lost out, and they are not entirely wrong. Trump was able to use their sometimes justifiable grievances to stir up a mess of racism and xenophobia, rather than directing their discontent where it really belongs, at the vast accumulation of wealth and power held by the capitalist class. Also, the Democrats need to distance themselves from the slogan “Defund the police.” That’s just a stupid slogan. I’m all for serious police reform, but that stupid slogan just invites misrepresentation.

Another problem I see is the American myth of the rugged individualist. I understand the appeal of that myth. My ancestors were homesteaders in the West, and I grew up spending summers on the family ranch way way up in the Rockies. But the fact is that human beings are social animals, as Aristotle, for instance, recognized. In fact, we were social before we were Homo Sapiens. And it could well be that our increased ability to live in cooperative groups made us more successful than other human varieties. It’s just not true that isolated individuals came together to form a social contract. Society was there first, and we became what we are within society. Learning to organize larger groups in a cooperative way is the key to the survival of the human race.

Yes, I fully realize that and have commented before how sad that is. I knew we still had problems, but I thought we had made great progress from how things were when I was young. It was disheartening to find out how many racist/fascist/homophobe/nationalists sympathizers actually exist. Yes, I hate Nazis and their American incarnation.

I have friends have a compassionate attitude towards Trump and his followers. They viewed Trump as the product of the manner in which he was raised and realize that his accessories come from a form of brainwashing, I continue to try and have the same attitude, but I am falling short. This man has done more damage to my country than any other president that I have known Someday I may be able to achieve the attitude of compassion and loving hope for people like him but I’m not holding my breath for that time.

If some towns can elect a dog or a goat as their leader how did we end up with a skunk ? We’re better than that.

Obviously, Bok has not listened to/comprehended Biden’s speeches!

Yet his supporters are the ones bringing guns to rallies and threatening voters and calling for civil war…

I don’t hate people that voted for trump; I’m just very disappointed that our education system has not equipped them for rational thought.

Poor Baghdad Bok. 5 Million more people (and counting) voted against Trump than for him.

Thats what happens when the “president’s” only skill is bringing out the worst in people. … its also why the whole world is celebrating.

Projection again! Although many citizens hate the hate that Trump and his followers embrace, they will not cling to hate like those Trumpers do.

Maybe I hate Trump. But I don’t hate his supporters. A great line from the movie Junebug:

“Jesus loves you just the way you are, but he loves you too much to want you to stay that way.”

You’ll draw anything to justify the amount of hate we’re seeing by MAGA right now. A planned attack on a ballot counting center; armed individuals harassing voters on election day; armed protests at ballot counting centers. So much hate indeed; just not the side you drew.

I openly admit I hate Trump. That hatred is well-deserved. I didn’t vote for him in 2016 but I was one of the people who naively hoped he would surprise us and step into his role. I don’t know if I would go so far as to say I hate the half of the country that is still supporting him, but I will admit to an enormous amount of disdain and anger for them. Dictators come into power through willing fools.

I’m not going to say “Who wouldn’t” – but hey, who doesn’t hate a SORE LOSER?

So…you’re not allowed to dislike Trump if he got a lot of votes? Now THAT’S herd mentality!!

“Nearly” only counts in hand-grenades and horse-shoes. That ain’t gonna get it done!

Mr. Bok is projecting.

They worked very hard to earn the hatred of decent people everywhere. We’d be ingrates to disappoint them now.

That “nearly” is too big for its britches. Something like the home-team sportscaster burbling, ‘That would have been a really great catch if he’d made it".

The brute fact is that more, millions more, votes were cast for Biden than the sore loser. The canvass was even more unbalanced than the Clinton-Trump score

Trump hates the losers that support him too. He hates everyone.

And which party had the armed militias plotting to kidnap a Governor? Which party had armed goons wandering the streets during the pandemic, threatening people? Which party’s supporters drove a car into protesters? Shot up a synagogue, crossed state lines whilst armed and shot protesters? No reply? Well let me give you a hint…..it wasn’t Democrat Party supporters.

Chip, when are you and YOUR MESSIAH gonna assemble the Proud Boys and Qanon to LIBERATE UTAH???

When will our republican created national nightmare be over?

What has always amazed me about to populism of the right is that all the changes in our economy that drove away jobs and manufacturing, and reduced wages, and made working conditions worse …. those all happened under a Republican -led Congress. Those are all Republican initiatives. The very things that drive the anger directed at the left are coming from the right. But the right are better liars.

You have the characters reversed. The maniac should be the Trump lover.

You do realize that more than 50% of the country voted for Hillary in 2016, right?

You are one stupid a$$h*le, Chip.

47% isn’t even close to nearly half…. He will lose by about 7 million votes.