2020 is exactly what scientists have predicted for years if we kept using fossil fuels—uncontrolled fires, huge number of hurricanes, extreme hot and cold weather, and new diseases. This is what our future will continue to be, only worse, unless we listen to the scientists and get off fossil fuels. I truly wish this wasn’t the way it is, but wishing doesn’t make it untrue. Coming up with conspiracy theories and pretending that it isn’t happening isn’t an option. We have to face reality, hard as that is.
Varvie, maybe you could remember that Indiana Republican Governor Mitch Daniels pushed for alternative energy sources (wind farms, ethanol.)
Mitch is now president of Purdue University, one of the premier engineering schools in the country – although Rose-Human might want to discuss that ,^) ;^) . Yah think he might know something that you don’t?
Somewhat off-topic: Mike and Mother Pence are scheduled to vote this morning, here in Indianapolis, even though they neither own nor lease any residence whatsoever in the state.
Please read your Schumpeter Mr. Varvel, it’s called “creative destruction”, i.e. creating something even better to replace something maybe not so good. It is not “wholesale destruction”, aka the core actions of Trumpism…
People on both sides talk imprecisely about “the oil industry,” when they’re really talking about two related industries — petrochemicals, which use oil and gas to create consumer and industrial products, and fossil fuels, which convert oil and gas into forms which are convenient to burn for energy. The petrochemical industry will continue to grow. The contemporary fossil fuel industry is withering away, just like the fuel industries of fifty years ago, 100 years ago, of the Civil War era, and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution have headed for extinction. Fossil fuels are like vacuum tubes, industries that no longer serve the needs of continuously improving technology. My grandmother’s house had a coal chute and an insulated milkbox on the back porch. We’ve found better ways. Gary and Donald want to stop finding better ways.
Republican Varvel lies like Trump. New Green Deal? Biden doesn’t support that. He supports a phase out of fossil fuels but recognizes that will take a very long time. Pretty sensible. But having no record of accomplishment to run on, Trump and Republicans like Varvel only have fear to sell.
Even if Gary’s fanciful toon were correct, which it most certainly is not, then we’d have a greater need to go solar and all get an EV. I’m OK with that. Love my Leaf.
Gary Varvel wants his readership to believe that moving ahead from fossil fuels to renewables is actually moving backward. We know whose lapdog he is. Same old G.V. Just shamelessly invert the truth.
I’d rather be riding in a donkey-pulled cart than be a nomad running from constant fires, flooding, pandemics, pestilence, and erratic weather changes.
I have to agree with George Clooney in that I absolutely love muscle cars, the sound of them and the raw power under your butt. But, this is not the 20th Century and we know better the effects of all we have wrought in various methods of pollution and destruction of the world’s forests. Todays electric cars already can supply 99% of the people’s needs and it will only get better. Heck even GM and Ford are on board with a target date of 2040 to fully switch over to all electric car production and bonus: they will all be built in America with American labor. Try to argue against that RWNJ’s There will always be a place in the world for petrochemicals, but reigning it in to a much less dominant role on our planet is a good thing for our children and our grandchildren. Let the healing begin.
Typical Trumper exaggeration – used to generate fear. It’s all they have. Biden said transition away from oil over time – NOT that he’d immediately terminate the oil industry. Must be the oil industry lobbyists talking through conservative politician’s mouths again.
^ You’re the one who wants to go backwards by clinging to a dying petroleum industry. Progress is forwards! We need sustainable energy, not more pollution.
It’s one thing to lack intelligence and integrity, but Varvel has created an illustration of a Tesla that looks just like a donkey! Disappointing. This type of rant isn’t new. As in the early 1900s when there was such alarm about new-fangled automobiles putting all those blacksmith’s out of work (alas, cars don’t need horseshoes), Varvel’s uninformed and reactionary cry is sickeningly predictable, disappointing, and — ultimately — boring.
Try to remember it was the oil industry that invented solar panels in the first place. They are energy companies and they will supply the kind of energy that the market demands.
Varvel was up late last night! Tomorrow’s comic will no doubt be about how Trump again called many of the people crossing the border “rapists and murderers” and characterized the ones who followed the law and returned for their hearing as “low I.Q.” Can’t wait to see that one Gary. What? You didn’t hear that? Trump Selective Hearing Syndrome strikes again.
Varvel doesn’t believe that humanity and it’s inventions are affecting the environment. He believes that the hole in the ozone layer over the Antarctic is just a myth and that the world is not heating up nor the climate changing. If it only affected the willfully blind, I wouldn’t mind.
How about the wagon wheel factory and they buggy whip business? We have to move forward to something better. The stone age didn’t end because we ran out of stones.
I was listening and watching. What he SAID wasn’t that at all. But then Varvel is seldom seen cartooning in a truish way. What he didn’t say (and should have, imo) is that the petrochemical energy industry will certainly go the way of buggy-whips when it becomes more cost-effective to use solar, wind, and what-all instead. Without any need to shut it down. Of course Varvel’s masters think that “regulate it for health and safety” is spelled “shut it down”, but that’s just because they can’t stand the idea that other people have worth.
Look to Europe. How many diesel electric locomotives does one see? High speed electric trains running everywhere (including freight), competing in many cases with airlines, increasing use of electric vehicles, increasing use of wind turbines and solar power with battery back-up to supply electricity. Fossil fuels will be with us for some time to come, but even in your country, coal is on the way out. U.S. coal consumption has been declining since its peak in 2007 of 1.1 billion short tons. In 2019, U.S. coal consumption totaled 590 million short tons (MMst). … In 2019, 62% of industrial coal consumption in the United States was used in manufacturing.
Gary, there are these things call EVs. That stands for electric vehicles. They’re actually becoming popular. They have a very interesting property in that they don’t pollute and contribute to climate change. Yes, that’s a real thing too.
He would “transition” from the oil industry. You can interpret that however you like, but taken in context with his push for a massive green conversion the meaning is clear. The question is not if but when. From the man who said he wants zero net emissions by 2025.
If the Koch brother had brain one, he’d sink all those Petro-dollars into renewable tech but he’s just as lost as the average trump cultist. Varvel is proud of his ignorance, so what ya gonna do? VOTE people!
Durak Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel, working hard to bring back the Whale Oil and Kerosene Industry!
T Smith over 3 years ago
It might be funny if weren’t a complete falsehood.
Odon Premium Member over 3 years ago
Energy generation is a rapidly growing field, use of fossil fuel is diminishing. That, Gary, is today’s world. Let us lead, not follow.
Totalloser Premium Member over 3 years ago
There are more jobs in renewable energy then Fossil Fuels
suzalee over 3 years ago
2020 is exactly what scientists have predicted for years if we kept using fossil fuels—uncontrolled fires, huge number of hurricanes, extreme hot and cold weather, and new diseases. This is what our future will continue to be, only worse, unless we listen to the scientists and get off fossil fuels. I truly wish this wasn’t the way it is, but wishing doesn’t make it untrue. Coming up with conspiracy theories and pretending that it isn’t happening isn’t an option. We have to face reality, hard as that is.
fusilier over 3 years ago
Varvie, maybe you could remember that Indiana Republican Governor Mitch Daniels pushed for alternative energy sources (wind farms, ethanol.)
Mitch is now president of Purdue University, one of the premier engineering schools in the country – although Rose-Human might want to discuss that ,^) ;^) . Yah think he might know something that you don’t?
Somewhat off-topic: Mike and Mother Pence are scheduled to vote this morning, here in Indianapolis, even though they neither own nor lease any residence whatsoever in the state.
But, of course, IOKIYAR.
fusilier
James 2:24
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 3 years ago
Big time oil has Gary and the rest in their pockets.
Tralfaz Premium Member over 3 years ago
Please read your Schumpeter Mr. Varvel, it’s called “creative destruction”, i.e. creating something even better to replace something maybe not so good. It is not “wholesale destruction”, aka the core actions of Trumpism…
Jimathai Premium Member over 3 years ago
Its the GOP that likes shutting things down without an alternative.
Ontman over 3 years ago
I had to check. No this wasn’t a Payne comic. It was just as stupid though.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 3 years ago
Joe kind of blew it there.. trump supporters stopped listening before they heard the time line.
Judge Magney over 3 years ago
People on both sides talk imprecisely about “the oil industry,” when they’re really talking about two related industries — petrochemicals, which use oil and gas to create consumer and industrial products, and fossil fuels, which convert oil and gas into forms which are convenient to burn for energy. The petrochemical industry will continue to grow. The contemporary fossil fuel industry is withering away, just like the fuel industries of fifty years ago, 100 years ago, of the Civil War era, and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution have headed for extinction. Fossil fuels are like vacuum tubes, industries that no longer serve the needs of continuously improving technology. My grandmother’s house had a coal chute and an insulated milkbox on the back porch. We’ve found better ways. Gary and Donald want to stop finding better ways.
DonnyTwoScoops over 3 years ago
Republican Varvel lies like Trump. New Green Deal? Biden doesn’t support that. He supports a phase out of fossil fuels but recognizes that will take a very long time. Pretty sensible. But having no record of accomplishment to run on, Trump and Republicans like Varvel only have fear to sell.
preacherman over 3 years ago
Even if Gary’s fanciful toon were correct, which it most certainly is not, then we’d have a greater need to go solar and all get an EV. I’m OK with that. Love my Leaf.
grange Premium Member over 3 years ago
Gary Varvel wants his readership to believe that moving ahead from fossil fuels to renewables is actually moving backward. We know whose lapdog he is. Same old G.V. Just shamelessly invert the truth.
Librarylady over 3 years ago
I’d rather be riding in a donkey-pulled cart than be a nomad running from constant fires, flooding, pandemics, pestilence, and erratic weather changes.
rmfrye Premium Member over 3 years ago
I was going to try to leave a cogent response to this nonsense, but I’ve just lost interest in trying to engage the willfully ignorant.
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
I’m so scared. Trump and his covid spreading have already shut down the country.
Time for solar and wind power, fracking ruins the underground water system forever and creates earthquakes.
NRHAWK Premium Member over 3 years ago
I have to agree with George Clooney in that I absolutely love muscle cars, the sound of them and the raw power under your butt. But, this is not the 20th Century and we know better the effects of all we have wrought in various methods of pollution and destruction of the world’s forests. Todays electric cars already can supply 99% of the people’s needs and it will only get better. Heck even GM and Ford are on board with a target date of 2040 to fully switch over to all electric car production and bonus: they will all be built in America with American labor. Try to argue against that RWNJ’s There will always be a place in the world for petrochemicals, but reigning it in to a much less dominant role on our planet is a good thing for our children and our grandchildren. Let the healing begin.
Patjade over 3 years ago
Desperate lies from a desperate cartoonist.
DrDon1 over 3 years ago
Varvel likes spreading the “output” of the Liar-in-Chief!
[ Self-respect is a ‘foreign’ concept for him! ]
Daeder over 3 years ago
I guess Varvel and the rest of the short-sighted conservatives don’t want all those modern, clean-energy jobs!
ferddo over 3 years ago
Typical Trumper exaggeration – used to generate fear. It’s all they have. Biden said transition away from oil over time – NOT that he’d immediately terminate the oil industry. Must be the oil industry lobbyists talking through conservative politician’s mouths again.
JanaKralovna over 3 years ago
And STILL it’s better than Trump’s America.
Daeder over 3 years ago
^ You’re the one who wants to go backwards by clinging to a dying petroleum industry. Progress is forwards! We need sustainable energy, not more pollution.
Please start caring about future generations.
Kentucky Ken Premium Member over 3 years ago
It’s one thing to lack intelligence and integrity, but Varvel has created an illustration of a Tesla that looks just like a donkey! Disappointing. This type of rant isn’t new. As in the early 1900s when there was such alarm about new-fangled automobiles putting all those blacksmith’s out of work (alas, cars don’t need horseshoes), Varvel’s uninformed and reactionary cry is sickeningly predictable, disappointing, and — ultimately — boring.
mikemck over 3 years ago
Try to remember it was the oil industry that invented solar panels in the first place. They are energy companies and they will supply the kind of energy that the market demands.
Another Take over 3 years ago
Varvel was up late last night! Tomorrow’s comic will no doubt be about how Trump again called many of the people crossing the border “rapists and murderers” and characterized the ones who followed the law and returned for their hearing as “low I.Q.” Can’t wait to see that one Gary. What? You didn’t hear that? Trump Selective Hearing Syndrome strikes again.
RAGs over 3 years ago
Varvel doesn’t believe that humanity and it’s inventions are affecting the environment. He believes that the hole in the ozone layer over the Antarctic is just a myth and that the world is not heating up nor the climate changing. If it only affected the willfully blind, I wouldn’t mind.
fleroudier over 3 years ago
Someone never heard of Tesla (the car manufacturer, not the inventor, you know the company valued at more than 4 x (GM + Ford))
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 3 years ago
I know this is Varvel, but it is Payne stupid.
DeepState over 3 years ago
How about the wagon wheel factory and they buggy whip business? We have to move forward to something better. The stone age didn’t end because we ran out of stones.
alex Coke Premium Member over 3 years ago
Eeyore!
Concretionist over 3 years ago
I was listening and watching. What he SAID wasn’t that at all. But then Varvel is seldom seen cartooning in a truish way. What he didn’t say (and should have, imo) is that the petrochemical energy industry will certainly go the way of buggy-whips when it becomes more cost-effective to use solar, wind, and what-all instead. Without any need to shut it down. Of course Varvel’s masters think that “regulate it for health and safety” is spelled “shut it down”, but that’s just because they can’t stand the idea that other people have worth.
grumpypophobart over 3 years ago
Look to Europe. How many diesel electric locomotives does one see? High speed electric trains running everywhere (including freight), competing in many cases with airlines, increasing use of electric vehicles, increasing use of wind turbines and solar power with battery back-up to supply electricity. Fossil fuels will be with us for some time to come, but even in your country, coal is on the way out. U.S. coal consumption has been declining since its peak in 2007 of 1.1 billion short tons. In 2019, U.S. coal consumption totaled 590 million short tons (MMst). … In 2019, 62% of industrial coal consumption in the United States was used in manufacturing.
hwolfe22 over 3 years ago
Gary, there are these things call EVs. That stands for electric vehicles. They’re actually becoming popular. They have a very interesting property in that they don’t pollute and contribute to climate change. Yes, that’s a real thing too.
XtopherSD over 3 years ago
Good! It’s well past time to intelligently move past fossil fuels.
braindead Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel continues to lie about EVERY issue.
Like all Trump Disciples.
Andylit Premium Member over 3 years ago
Once again it seems that you all watched some alternate broadcast.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?475796-1/trump-biden-debate
Start viewing at 1:28:56
He would “transition” from the oil industry. You can interpret that however you like, but taken in context with his push for a massive green conversion the meaning is clear. The question is not if but when. From the man who said he wants zero net emissions by 2025.
Wlly Blly over 3 years ago
Love the way Varvel lies. Turns “transition away from” to “shut down”.
William Bednar Premium Member over 3 years ago
Gary must have a lot of stock in the Oil Industry.
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel, as always, telling it like it is. “No fracking Joe” and wife going to visit Fancy Nancy at the “green” wind driven hair salon.
Jack Dawson over 3 years ago
Biden working hard to bring back Hoover carts.
d.davies0809@gmail.com over 3 years ago
After yer done making another stupid cartoon Gary, be sure to replace your head in the sand.
d.davies0809@gmail.com over 3 years ago
If the Koch brother had brain one, he’d sink all those Petro-dollars into renewable tech but he’s just as lost as the average trump cultist. Varvel is proud of his ignorance, so what ya gonna do? VOTE people!
DrPawl over 3 years ago
Hey Varvel: Ever heard of this company called Tesla? Biden has:
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/stock-price-history
Stat_man99 over 3 years ago
Get used to this mode of transportation if Kamala, I mean Joe, wins the presidency.
ScottHolman over 3 years ago
Here’s a dollar Joe, don’t ever say the word “folks” again.