Those were hopeful words from RBG in 2017 and she was not wrong. I believe she will prove to be prophetic She didn’t, as far as I know, say that the pendulum had swung to its furthest point yet. I try to keep in mind that one of the long-standing tenets of conservatism is that the Court was, through multiple iterations during the 1960’s and 70’s, far too extremely liberal, and that what is occurring now is the return trip.
It would be gratifying to think that we could find our way as a society out of this “culture of revenge.” That urge, that impulse, is very human and very hard to control. For that culture to end, there has to be an attitude of mutual concern and respect among the leadership. Clearly that does not exist now. Unfortunately, the further the pendulum swings, in either direction, the greater is the desire for revenge. And the claim that revenge is “justified.”
I think the USA got about 60-70 years of reasonably good, responsible governance, with the parties behaving, and policing themselves. Sure, there were a few bumps in the road. Over the past 30 years, all that trust, confidence, and amity has disappeared. That about covers the past 100 years, just long enough for all the people who remember this %^$* to have died. As a society, we seem to be doing just about everything on a 100-year cycle. So maybe, at best, we can look forward to a repeat of another period of 60-70 years of good, responsible governance somewhere in our future. It certainly is not what we have now.
Also, I think Luckovich overstates it here. McConnell may even believe that he has cut the pendulum. But I don’t. Nothing lasts forever, not even “a permanent Republican majority”, regardless how well engineered it is. There are 1,000 ways to say payback’s a female dog. There WILL be a strong swing to the left within 10 years because the fringe right is now calling the shots. If you ask people, independent of political parties or labels, which policies they prefer among the available options, the large majority will choose the policies promoted by the left. Yet as soon as that policy becomes labelled as “liberal” or “Democratic”, they are reflexively opposed. Think outside the [political] box, America!
If any of the people who are candidates for the Supreme Court had any real integrity, they would refuse the nomination before the election and swearing in of a new president.
Isaac Newton described a law of gravity which (among many basic universal physical principles) Bitch doesn’t understand. I refer to “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”
The pendulum is history; it cannot be “sawed off”. Someday there will be a comic strip showing the pendulum with teeth swinging back and biting the GOP in the aspirations.
Most people on these comment boards probably think of Andylit as some kind of crank who gets off on provoking people with his fascist commentary, never sticking around to watch the outraged ants come boiling out of the anthill he’s just poked. You may just chalk his drive-by shootings up to the short attention span typical of such trolls.
Not so in Andy’s case. Once you get him started, he’s fully capable of performing his irrational, pig-headed “Republicans can do no wrong” song and dance at epic length in defense of the indefensible — in particular the Republicans’ intransigent insistence on in-person voting for Wisconsin’s 2020 spring election, smack in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic.* This illustrates as clearly as anything that his callous disdain for his fellow human beings and arrogant contempt for democracy aren’t merely an act or a surface veneer, they go straight to his rotten core.
*If you’ve got a strong stomach, you can see it for yourself here: https://www.gocomics.com/mikeluckovich/2020/4/8
#MoscowMitch, we are not a Parliamentary system! Show me where the Constitution says that when there are 8 months until an election that the president loses his right, nay his duty to nominate a SCOTUS justice when the senate is of the opposing party, but when the president and senate are of the same party, they can replace a SCOTUS justice within 48 Days of an election.
We in Kentucky can try to vote Mitch out of office, but in case that fails, you other states need to turn the senate blue, so at least Mitch will lose his special majority leader power.
The important thing to remember is who will count the votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. No one ever investigated if the hacking that got into the Democratic Campaign, numerous financial institutions and companies or if it also got into the vote counting operations in those states. And, to my knowledge, those computer operations in those states have not been improved at all since 2016. All the votes don’t have to be changed, just some. I think it was Michigan where the difference would have been to change 2 votes in each precinct to give Trump the win. I worked with a number of computer experts in my job and the things they could do with programs was amazing.
It’s not who votes or how many votes there are or how they voted that counts. What counts is who counts the votes.
Charliegirl Premium Member over 3 years ago
I hope it cracks a few ‘special’ people extremely hard on the head.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member over 3 years ago
Those were hopeful words from RBG in 2017 and she was not wrong. I believe she will prove to be prophetic She didn’t, as far as I know, say that the pendulum had swung to its furthest point yet. I try to keep in mind that one of the long-standing tenets of conservatism is that the Court was, through multiple iterations during the 1960’s and 70’s, far too extremely liberal, and that what is occurring now is the return trip.
It would be gratifying to think that we could find our way as a society out of this “culture of revenge.” That urge, that impulse, is very human and very hard to control. For that culture to end, there has to be an attitude of mutual concern and respect among the leadership. Clearly that does not exist now. Unfortunately, the further the pendulum swings, in either direction, the greater is the desire for revenge. And the claim that revenge is “justified.”
I think the USA got about 60-70 years of reasonably good, responsible governance, with the parties behaving, and policing themselves. Sure, there were a few bumps in the road. Over the past 30 years, all that trust, confidence, and amity has disappeared. That about covers the past 100 years, just long enough for all the people who remember this %^$* to have died. As a society, we seem to be doing just about everything on a 100-year cycle. So maybe, at best, we can look forward to a repeat of another period of 60-70 years of good, responsible governance somewhere in our future. It certainly is not what we have now.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member over 3 years ago
Also, I think Luckovich overstates it here. McConnell may even believe that he has cut the pendulum. But I don’t. Nothing lasts forever, not even “a permanent Republican majority”, regardless how well engineered it is. There are 1,000 ways to say payback’s a female dog. There WILL be a strong swing to the left within 10 years because the fringe right is now calling the shots. If you ask people, independent of political parties or labels, which policies they prefer among the available options, the large majority will choose the policies promoted by the left. Yet as soon as that policy becomes labelled as “liberal” or “Democratic”, they are reflexively opposed. Think outside the [political] box, America!
FassEddie over 3 years ago
I hope that the Kentucky voters saw his pendulum off in November. Amy will be a fine replacement for the seven-term turtle.
well-i-never over 3 years ago
If any of the people who are candidates for the Supreme Court had any real integrity, they would refuse the nomination before the election and swearing in of a new president.
FrankErnesto over 3 years ago
Maybe true, but it may take 50 years or more, with this Supreme Court.
A# 466 over 3 years ago
If confirmed, Justice Barrett’s name, along with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, will always have an indelible asterisk attached to it.
judirapelje over 3 years ago
Together we have the power to change current events…VOTE!
Denver Reader Premium Member over 3 years ago
It can swing back.
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Its up to the voters to dump the party that is murdering the USA democracy to turn it into a racist Republican lawless police state.
Michael G. over 3 years ago
Isaac Newton described a law of gravity which (among many basic universal physical principles) Bitch doesn’t understand. I refer to “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”
So let it be written. So let it be done.
comixbomix over 3 years ago
There are worse things than a hack with a saw…like, a hack with a committee chair.
jvo over 3 years ago
@MontanaBill
But should people vote for a Republican Party before it has cleared its ranks of fascists and racists?
Masterskrain Premium Member over 3 years ago
Moscow Mitch MUST GO!!! AND SOON!
Teto85 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Do not feed the trumpfluffing troll from east of Idaho.
ncorgbl over 3 years ago
McConnell violates his oath, and is a traitor to the U.S.
mistercatworks over 3 years ago
The pendulum is history; it cannot be “sawed off”. Someday there will be a comic strip showing the pendulum with teeth swinging back and biting the GOP in the aspirations.
ferddo over 3 years ago
Mitch may think that he’s permanently stacking the SCOTUS to the GOP’s favor… until the Democrats build a new and bigger SCOTUS…
Andylit Premium Member over 3 years ago
And now, after 60 plus years it is finally swinging back.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 3 years ago
Most people on these comment boards probably think of Andylit as some kind of crank who gets off on provoking people with his fascist commentary, never sticking around to watch the outraged ants come boiling out of the anthill he’s just poked. You may just chalk his drive-by shootings up to the short attention span typical of such trolls.
Not so in Andy’s case. Once you get him started, he’s fully capable of performing his irrational, pig-headed “Republicans can do no wrong” song and dance at epic length in defense of the indefensible — in particular the Republicans’ intransigent insistence on in-person voting for Wisconsin’s 2020 spring election, smack in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic.* This illustrates as clearly as anything that his callous disdain for his fellow human beings and arrogant contempt for democracy aren’t merely an act or a surface veneer, they go straight to his rotten core.
*If you’ve got a strong stomach, you can see it for yourself here: https://www.gocomics.com/mikeluckovich/2020/4/8
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 3 years ago
Beautiful.
Daeder over 3 years ago
He’s Kentucky’s own bellendum.
JenSolo02 over 3 years ago
#MoscowMitch, we are not a Parliamentary system! Show me where the Constitution says that when there are 8 months until an election that the president loses his right, nay his duty to nominate a SCOTUS justice when the senate is of the opposing party, but when the president and senate are of the same party, they can replace a SCOTUS justice within 48 Days of an election.
bradken over 3 years ago
We in Kentucky can try to vote Mitch out of office, but in case that fails, you other states need to turn the senate blue, so at least Mitch will lose his special majority leader power.
pc368dude over 3 years ago
Clever, having that clock at 11:03
JamesDevore over 3 years ago
The important thing to remember is who will count the votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. No one ever investigated if the hacking that got into the Democratic Campaign, numerous financial institutions and companies or if it also got into the vote counting operations in those states. And, to my knowledge, those computer operations in those states have not been improved at all since 2016. All the votes don’t have to be changed, just some. I think it was Michigan where the difference would have been to change 2 votes in each precinct to give Trump the win. I worked with a number of computer experts in my job and the things they could do with programs was amazing.
It’s not who votes or how many votes there are or how they voted that counts. What counts is who counts the votes.
Tootsie Premium Member over 3 years ago
JamesDevore, you’d better troll your boat faster. It’s starting to sink with Trump’s tax returns, weighing it down.