The Rong-wing talking point seems to be that reforming the police (possibly from the ground up) and using some of the current funding to support programs which the police themselves would rather not be doing will stop them from doing anything useful. The reality is, of course, more nuanced. But Bok et al do not understand the word… or the concept.
Black communities in many instances don’t call the police because the results are worse than handling the crimes themselves. If Chip would get out of his conservative funded gated community and take a look at the real world, he’d find his boring b.s. cartoons don’t quite match up.
Has anyone pointed out to that we don’t pay criminals to kill indiscriminately, but that we have been paying the police for decades while they do so. In other words, when the police are doing their job correctly, THEN they can complain. Until then – DEFUND THEM and use the money for the hospitals that will have to save us from their uncontrolled misuse of power.
I really like the Chipster’s strips on the Angel of Death’s mishandling of the Covfefe-45 pandemic, he really lays into PINO Trump’s mishandling of the COVFEFE-45 pandemic…/s
i’d like to see ol’ chip’s research that says that more blacks will be killed if police who don’t care if they’re killed in the first place are defunded…
While we all know Chip is making a hit on police defunding, this also shows a basic misunderstanding of the overall concept. Defund Police doesn’t mean eliminate police, just reallocate funds to social workers who will do the kind of work that the police were never designed to do. Police personnel have often complained that they are called upon to handle social work along with their standard policing duties. Now is the time to give that social work to those trained for it.
I too in recent weeks have become critical of the BLM movement! Black folks will march, protest and even vandalize our own areas when a White cop kills a Black man, but won’t raise an eyebrow when a Black person kills another Black person! I’ve said this over and over that Black people should go back and listen the words of Malcolm X when he said: “…Instead of getting White people to respect us, we need to learn how to love and respect OURSELVES!”
This is simply not true. On many levels. Firstly, as sevaar777 says, many black communities don’t call the cops because their experience with cops is universally bad. They often don’t come to their aid at all, and when they do, it’s often only to make things worse. Just had a conversation with a 78-year-old black friend who said they will never trust the police because they’ve had a long lifetime of abuse, harassment, and unhelpfulness. The second lie in this is that defunding the police means having no police. It means making the police remember that it’s the community that decides what the police do, not the other way around. Some communities simply fired the entire police force, decided what they really wanted in their police, and started over from scratch. That included plowing some of that police funding into social services that reduced crime without ever drawing a gun. THAT is what defunding the police means. And wherever it’s been done, crime goes down, and trust in police goes up.
I wish they would stop saying “Defund” when what they mean is “Reallocate some of the police funding”. Then we wouldn’t have so many ill-informed cartoons like this one.
I wish they would stop trying to rationalize the calls by insane revolutionaries to defund our police forces.
No, they are NOT calling for a subtle shifting of funds. The street is calling for the elimination of armed police forces.
Now, some of the government snakes are taking a “nuanced” approach by shifting some money over to “social services”, but the reality will be similar. Fewer police officers to serve the highest crime areas.
New York has already pulled what is probably the single most important unit off the street. The Street Crimes Unit was responsible for most of the illegal guns taken off the streets, along with arrests of the felons carrying them. The 2020 YTD murder rate in NYC has spiked almost 25% over 2019.
I have questions for all you fans of the social worker plan.
How long before they begin refusing to answer domestic dispute calls?
How many unarmed social workers will be assaulted, raped or killed before you realize that this idea is less than optimal?
Poor baby. Zuhl is like McCarthy reincarnated. He sees Russians and traitors behind every tree and bush.
It’ll be OK, Zuhl. Trump will win and the GOP may even take back the House. It would be wonderful to have 4 years without a witch hunt. We could make great strides in that time.
RAGs almost 4 years ago
A reliable and responsible police department will solve both problems.
Daeder almost 4 years ago
I know Chip doesn’t get it, but does he have to try so hard not to get it?
Say What Now‽ Premium Member almost 4 years ago
These conservative cartoonist should be twisting pretzel instead of logic.
Concretionist almost 4 years ago
The Rong-wing talking point seems to be that reforming the police (possibly from the ground up) and using some of the current funding to support programs which the police themselves would rather not be doing will stop them from doing anything useful. The reality is, of course, more nuanced. But Bok et al do not understand the word… or the concept.
shakeswilly almost 4 years ago
More blacks will be killed by criminals ? So take away Bok’s gun – That should bring the number down !
Patjade almost 4 years ago
The uninformed preaching to the uneducated, right Chip? Isn’t that your target audience?
sevaar777 almost 4 years ago
Black communities in many instances don’t call the police because the results are worse than handling the crimes themselves. If Chip would get out of his conservative funded gated community and take a look at the real world, he’d find his boring b.s. cartoons don’t quite match up.
braindead Premium Member almost 4 years ago
As a Trump Disciple, Chip’s point is to LIE.
About every issue.
.
#TraitorTrump
Pogostiks Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Has anyone pointed out to that we don’t pay criminals to kill indiscriminately, but that we have been paying the police for decades while they do so. In other words, when the police are doing their job correctly, THEN they can complain. Until then – DEFUND THEM and use the money for the hospitals that will have to save us from their uncontrolled misuse of power.
The Love of Money is . . . almost 4 years ago
Nothing to see here, move along . . .(old police saying with a dead person in the street)
mourdac Premium Member almost 4 years ago
I really like the Chipster’s strips on the Angel of Death’s mishandling of the Covfefe-45 pandemic, he really lays into PINO Trump’s mishandling of the COVFEFE-45 pandemic…/s
gopher gofer almost 4 years ago
i’d like to see ol’ chip’s research that says that more blacks will be killed if police who don’t care if they’re killed in the first place are defunded…
"It's the End of the World!!!" Premium Member almost 4 years ago
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
stealth694 almost 4 years ago
You want the point of this cartoon??
CHECK OUT: https://news.yahoo.com/shootings-across-chicago-kill-3-150558723.htmlAnd this was on June 28th,, What will it be on JULY 4th??
preacherman almost 4 years ago
While we all know Chip is making a hit on police defunding, this also shows a basic misunderstanding of the overall concept. Defund Police doesn’t mean eliminate police, just reallocate funds to social workers who will do the kind of work that the police were never designed to do. Police personnel have often complained that they are called upon to handle social work along with their standard policing duties. Now is the time to give that social work to those trained for it.
Zen-of-Zinfandel almost 4 years ago
She’ll light up if you shine a flashlight in her ears.
William Bednar Premium Member almost 4 years ago
He doesn’t know that on the back of the sign it says: “Defund Crime”.
djtenltd almost 4 years ago
I too in recent weeks have become critical of the BLM movement! Black folks will march, protest and even vandalize our own areas when a White cop kills a Black man, but won’t raise an eyebrow when a Black person kills another Black person! I’ve said this over and over that Black people should go back and listen the words of Malcolm X when he said: “…Instead of getting White people to respect us, we need to learn how to love and respect OURSELVES!”
walkingmancomics almost 4 years ago
Not statistically true, y’know.
cdward almost 4 years ago
This is simply not true. On many levels. Firstly, as sevaar777 says, many black communities don’t call the cops because their experience with cops is universally bad. They often don’t come to their aid at all, and when they do, it’s often only to make things worse. Just had a conversation with a 78-year-old black friend who said they will never trust the police because they’ve had a long lifetime of abuse, harassment, and unhelpfulness. The second lie in this is that defunding the police means having no police. It means making the police remember that it’s the community that decides what the police do, not the other way around. Some communities simply fired the entire police force, decided what they really wanted in their police, and started over from scratch. That included plowing some of that police funding into social services that reduced crime without ever drawing a gun. THAT is what defunding the police means. And wherever it’s been done, crime goes down, and trust in police goes up.
JohnBean almost 4 years ago
I wish they would stop saying “Defund” when what they mean is “Reallocate some of the police funding”. Then we wouldn’t have so many ill-informed cartoons like this one.
Andylit Premium Member almost 4 years ago
I wish they would stop trying to rationalize the calls by insane revolutionaries to defund our police forces.
No, they are NOT calling for a subtle shifting of funds. The street is calling for the elimination of armed police forces.
Now, some of the government snakes are taking a “nuanced” approach by shifting some money over to “social services”, but the reality will be similar. Fewer police officers to serve the highest crime areas.
New York has already pulled what is probably the single most important unit off the street. The Street Crimes Unit was responsible for most of the illegal guns taken off the streets, along with arrests of the felons carrying them. The 2020 YTD murder rate in NYC has spiked almost 25% over 2019.
I have questions for all you fans of the social worker plan.
How long before they begin refusing to answer domestic dispute calls?
How many unarmed social workers will be assaulted, raped or killed before you realize that this idea is less than optimal?
Andylit Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Poor baby. Zuhl is like McCarthy reincarnated. He sees Russians and traitors behind every tree and bush.
It’ll be OK, Zuhl. Trump will win and the GOP may even take back the House. It would be wonderful to have 4 years without a witch hunt. We could make great strides in that time.