…because if we reinstate military officers who feel compelled to do the right thing, then before you know it, we have a military full of soldiers who refuse orders like firing gas grenades and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters. And we can’t have that in the New Duh-merican Banana Re-thug-lick!
As a US Navy Veteran I see both sides of this,one it’s disgraceful the way they treated the Captain, this whole situation should have been done in private, just discussing!
As a Navy Veteran (1967-1971) I remember being referred to as “short timer” when my 4 year enlistment was coming to an end and I wasn’t going to re-enlist. I had declined a Variable Re-enlistment Bonus of $10,000 and was getting married. That was a great feeling.
I have that same feeling now that our present Commander in Thief . .ah, Chief is a “short timer” and will be leaving soon after 4 years! I wonder if there will be parade someplace. I know I’ll be celebrating.
Indeed. In my years of observing them, Naval proceedings have been generally judicious enough, but it seems to me that the notorious cases (which are really the only ones anyone has ever heard of) tend to be either whitewashes or scapegoating.
Reminds me of the framing and smear campaigns launched against Commander Lloyd M. Bucher after the Pueblo incident. If you are too young to remember it, there is a pretty good rundown on Wikipedia.
He and his superior were judged by a panel of fellow command officers that they both mismanaged the situation prior to his letter. We do not know all the details, probably because it concerns policies and procedures that reveal too much about how things are done internally. It is sad but he can recover and his superior could eventually get that next star. The UCMJ is very well defined about this process and as a veteran of the Navy, I respect how it was handled.
Daeder almost 4 years ago
…because if we reinstate military officers who feel compelled to do the right thing, then before you know it, we have a military full of soldiers who refuse orders like firing gas grenades and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters. And we can’t have that in the New Duh-merican Banana Re-thug-lick!
feverjr Premium Member almost 4 years ago
War criminals are pardoned, heroes are destroyed, welcome to Trump World…
Howdy_Doodat Premium Member almost 4 years ago
It has ever been thus – look what happened to George Patton when he wanted to go clean up Russia right after WWII.
Ontman almost 4 years ago
Heaven forbid that a Captain should actually care about the men who serve under him.
scote1379 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
As a US Navy Veteran I see both sides of this,one it’s disgraceful the way they treated the Captain, this whole situation should have been done in private, just discussing!
The Love of Money is . . . almost 4 years ago
As a Navy Veteran (1967-1971) I remember being referred to as “short timer” when my 4 year enlistment was coming to an end and I wasn’t going to re-enlist. I had declined a Variable Re-enlistment Bonus of $10,000 and was getting married. That was a great feeling.
I have that same feeling now that our present Commander in Thief . .ah, Chief is a “short timer” and will be leaving soon after 4 years! I wonder if there will be parade someplace. I know I’ll be celebrating.
Union Man almost 4 years ago
Just another reason everyone is laughing at America. With Trump leading the way it is how low can the U.S.A go!
dickanders Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Trump certainly doesn’t
Bookworm almost 4 years ago
Flounder on, O Ship of State. . . .
AndrewSihler almost 4 years ago
Indeed. In my years of observing them, Naval proceedings have been generally judicious enough, but it seems to me that the notorious cases (which are really the only ones anyone has ever heard of) tend to be either whitewashes or scapegoating.
cmxx almost 4 years ago
Basic: When you have a job with hierarchy, and you aren’t at the top of that hierarchy, your job is to make your boss(es) look good.
wiatr almost 4 years ago
I’d like to know who leaked the original message to the press. That is the person who breached security.
Retired engineer almost 4 years ago
Reminds me of the framing and smear campaigns launched against Commander Lloyd M. Bucher after the Pueblo incident. If you are too young to remember it, there is a pretty good rundown on Wikipedia.
pamela welch Premium Member almost 4 years ago
This poor Captain … such a good commander.
Andylit Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Not really. The only thing political about it was the review. The fact that he even got one.
He violated the chain of command and broke security. Automatic crash landing. He knew it going in.
wbezemek almost 4 years ago
He and his superior were judged by a panel of fellow command officers that they both mismanaged the situation prior to his letter. We do not know all the details, probably because it concerns policies and procedures that reveal too much about how things are done internally. It is sad but he can recover and his superior could eventually get that next star. The UCMJ is very well defined about this process and as a veteran of the Navy, I respect how it was handled.
djtenltd almost 4 years ago
Our military is great at fighting and defending our country but warped in many of its ways of thinking, unfortunately.
Pickled Pete almost 4 years ago
The captain cared for his crew, just as the president is supposed to care for all citizens..