“Open Borders” – When Bernie says it and SKelley says it they mean two different things.
“Free Health Care” – Bernie isn’t offering “Free” anything. It will be paid for. It will just be paid for in a different fashion than it is today.
“Green New Deal” – The problem here isn’t MATH. The problem is the lack of courage of investors to do something innovative and new. Investors want instant return and profit, rather than what is best in the long run. It’s about SKelley’s lack of capacity to understand basic economic principles.
Actually, Bernie’s math is about right. Even with his lower delegate count, he figures he still has a chance after the next several primaries and he can still affect the direction the party goes in the future. What’s more, open borders has always been good for America; his healthcare, while not being free, is lower in cost than what we have now; and, the green new deal is the path toward innovation and financial growth. It all sounds like good math, to me.
& never mind the $ given wall street to help them through their crash-crisis would’ve been enough to cover oh, one or two, or maybe all, Sanders’ proposals. Gotta save the stock market traders first!
Bernie himself admitted he has NO idea how much his giveaways would cost. But we DO know it would be more than all the money the ‘wealthy’ and the ‘rich’ have in total, if we took it all from them.
Bernie’s ‘home’ state of Vermont tried putting in single payer a number of years ago and had to abandon the idea. Because, with all those wonderful cost ‘SAVINGS’ they found they could not afford to pay for it!
Bernie was on the VA committee and nothing was done for our veterans. Not until Trump became President and made it possible for vets to see any doctor they needed to if the VA could not get them an appointment in a reasonable amount of time. Instead of dying on a waiting list while VA execs got bonuses for lying on their reports about how good a job they were doing, now vets can actually see a doctor before they end up dying in a queue. Thanks to DONALD TRUMP, not loudmouth Bernie Sanders whose sum total of accomplishments in DC amounts to the naming of four (4) Post Offices. On this I will agree with Hillary: “Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him.”
Free health care? Who has that? Oh, well, service personnel, I guess. Maybe veterans, too. (Reminder: there’s nothing “free” about Medicare or for-profit health “insurance”.)
The “open borders” claim is a complete LIE. Health care wouldn’t be “free”, the amount paid to insurance company and pharma execs and the staff that refuses coverage could be used to actually provide healthcare. The other developed countries spend less money with better results – so the “math” claim is another lie. The Green New Deal is a plan to develop renewable energy. address the job market and look to the future. Therefore, Kelley has a trifecta of falsehoods.
The average college graduate pays about $7800 more a year in federal taxes than the average high school graduate. Over 30 years, that totals about $234,000. If that’s divided by the 4 years it takes to get a college education, the government would break even if it paid every student $58,500 a year to attend school. This doesn’t even consider that with the degree, the person is less likely to ever need unemployment or welfare, that more students would complete high school if they could see a clear way to a really good job, and that they would be enriching the Social Security and Medicare funds. They would also be paying a larger amount in all other types of taxes.The best investment we could make to keep America strong is to not just forgive all student loans but to make all higher education, including trade schools, etc totally free, as long as the student is making decent grades, and increase the number of schools and teachers to make room for all who can profit from the education. There is no better way to spend money than to invest it in our people, to give them every opportunity to be the best they can be. Yes, It’s good for them individually, but the country is made up of individuals, so what’s good for one is good for the country.. We don’t, even during a time of high unemployment, have so much a lack of jobs as we have a lack of people who have the skills to perform the jobs that are available- in other words, a lack of education.
When we were in England, my Mother had to visit the emergency room. We were seen immediately, possibly because she was older and they weren’t sure what was wrong with her. We asked for the bill, explaining that we were Americans and didn’t qualify for the free medical care. They replied that they didn’t have any forms for making out a bill, no one who would know how to make out the form if they had one and anyway everyone who was getting paid was busy taking care of sick people. On the other hand, when my son needed surgery for his cancer, he had to wait six weeks for the doctor to have an opening in his schedule. And, later, his treatments were postponed because the insurance company was deciding whether to pay for them. This was the president of the Midwestern Prostate Ontological group being dictated to by a pencil pusher who probably never graduated from college. That was in Saint Louis, Missouri, United States of America. We pay more for medical care than anyone else on earth and it’s not because we are paying for actual medical care. We are spending money to support a huge insurance industry with money that then isn’t available to provide for patient care.
How many times did we hear Biden ask “how is Bernie going to pay for Medicare for All?” Yet no one ever asks Biden how much is the Public Option going to cost an American that signs up for it? Or is it the taxpayer that already pays a Medicare Tax going to see that tax go up? Who knows; the media never challenges the Moderate non-revolutionary Public Option plan that they claim will only cost $750 billion over ten years but not say where that funding is coming from or if it depends on reimplenting the mandatory insurance requirement the ACA depends on to lower costs.
Ontman about 4 years ago
He’s not nearly as bad at math as Kelley is at editorializing.
DaBoogadie about 4 years ago
Republican head worm salad.
RAGs about 4 years ago
Of course, Trump drove six companies into bankruptcy (including a casino) but Sanders is the one who is bad at math.
Charlie R about 4 years ago
Sanders is also saying that he will increase Social Security benefits. I wonder how he plans to to do that.
Durak Premium Member about 4 years ago
“Open Borders” – When Bernie says it and SKelley says it they mean two different things.
“Free Health Care” – Bernie isn’t offering “Free” anything. It will be paid for. It will just be paid for in a different fashion than it is today.
“Green New Deal” – The problem here isn’t MATH. The problem is the lack of courage of investors to do something innovative and new. Investors want instant return and profit, rather than what is best in the long run. It’s about SKelley’s lack of capacity to understand basic economic principles.
preacherman about 4 years ago
Actually, Bernie’s math is about right. Even with his lower delegate count, he figures he still has a chance after the next several primaries and he can still affect the direction the party goes in the future. What’s more, open borders has always been good for America; his healthcare, while not being free, is lower in cost than what we have now; and, the green new deal is the path toward innovation and financial growth. It all sounds like good math, to me.
morningglory73 Premium Member about 4 years ago
Whatever……I think that’s a really good caricature of Bernie. Cute.
walkingmancomics about 4 years ago
& never mind the $ given wall street to help them through their crash-crisis would’ve been enough to cover oh, one or two, or maybe all, Sanders’ proposals. Gotta save the stock market traders first!
El Paso Mark about 4 years ago
Truth is pretty irritating to you moonbat lefties, isn’t it. Love to read your comments whilst I picture your heads exploding.
rs about 4 years ago
Bernie himself admitted he has NO idea how much his giveaways would cost. But we DO know it would be more than all the money the ‘wealthy’ and the ‘rich’ have in total, if we took it all from them.
rs about 4 years ago
Bernie’s ‘home’ state of Vermont tried putting in single payer a number of years ago and had to abandon the idea. Because, with all those wonderful cost ‘SAVINGS’ they found they could not afford to pay for it!
rs about 4 years ago
Bernie was on the VA committee and nothing was done for our veterans. Not until Trump became President and made it possible for vets to see any doctor they needed to if the VA could not get them an appointment in a reasonable amount of time. Instead of dying on a waiting list while VA execs got bonuses for lying on their reports about how good a job they were doing, now vets can actually see a doctor before they end up dying in a queue. Thanks to DONALD TRUMP, not loudmouth Bernie Sanders whose sum total of accomplishments in DC amounts to the naming of four (4) Post Offices. On this I will agree with Hillary: “Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him.”
Patjade about 4 years ago
When your guy is cratering, find a diversion, eh, Kelley?
MartinPerry1 about 4 years ago
I suppose that BIden is as far left as a conservative can go.
AndrewSihler about 4 years ago
Free health care? Who has that? Oh, well, service personnel, I guess. Maybe veterans, too. (Reminder: there’s nothing “free” about Medicare or for-profit health “insurance”.)
Retired engineer about 4 years ago
Maybe he looked at all the countries doing all that and more and noticed that the numbers add up quite well.
Nantucket Premium Member about 4 years ago
The “open borders” claim is a complete LIE. Health care wouldn’t be “free”, the amount paid to insurance company and pharma execs and the staff that refuses coverage could be used to actually provide healthcare. The other developed countries spend less money with better results – so the “math” claim is another lie. The Green New Deal is a plan to develop renewable energy. address the job market and look to the future. Therefore, Kelley has a trifecta of falsehoods.
Diane Lee Premium Member about 4 years ago
The average college graduate pays about $7800 more a year in federal taxes than the average high school graduate. Over 30 years, that totals about $234,000. If that’s divided by the 4 years it takes to get a college education, the government would break even if it paid every student $58,500 a year to attend school. This doesn’t even consider that with the degree, the person is less likely to ever need unemployment or welfare, that more students would complete high school if they could see a clear way to a really good job, and that they would be enriching the Social Security and Medicare funds. They would also be paying a larger amount in all other types of taxes.The best investment we could make to keep America strong is to not just forgive all student loans but to make all higher education, including trade schools, etc totally free, as long as the student is making decent grades, and increase the number of schools and teachers to make room for all who can profit from the education. There is no better way to spend money than to invest it in our people, to give them every opportunity to be the best they can be. Yes, It’s good for them individually, but the country is made up of individuals, so what’s good for one is good for the country.. We don’t, even during a time of high unemployment, have so much a lack of jobs as we have a lack of people who have the skills to perform the jobs that are available- in other words, a lack of education.
Diane Lee Premium Member about 4 years ago
When we were in England, my Mother had to visit the emergency room. We were seen immediately, possibly because she was older and they weren’t sure what was wrong with her. We asked for the bill, explaining that we were Americans and didn’t qualify for the free medical care. They replied that they didn’t have any forms for making out a bill, no one who would know how to make out the form if they had one and anyway everyone who was getting paid was busy taking care of sick people. On the other hand, when my son needed surgery for his cancer, he had to wait six weeks for the doctor to have an opening in his schedule. And, later, his treatments were postponed because the insurance company was deciding whether to pay for them. This was the president of the Midwestern Prostate Ontological group being dictated to by a pencil pusher who probably never graduated from college. That was in Saint Louis, Missouri, United States of America. We pay more for medical care than anyone else on earth and it’s not because we are paying for actual medical care. We are spending money to support a huge insurance industry with money that then isn’t available to provide for patient care.
ndblackirish97 about 4 years ago
How many times did we hear Biden ask “how is Bernie going to pay for Medicare for All?” Yet no one ever asks Biden how much is the Public Option going to cost an American that signs up for it? Or is it the taxpayer that already pays a Medicare Tax going to see that tax go up? Who knows; the media never challenges the Moderate non-revolutionary Public Option plan that they claim will only cost $750 billion over ten years but not say where that funding is coming from or if it depends on reimplenting the mandatory insurance requirement the ACA depends on to lower costs.