Thank you all for reading the comic and continuing to follow along this trip through history and politics. Through my time writing about the Presidents and the discussions we’ve had through GoComics and social media, I have deepened my understanding of what justice, community, and patriotism mean to me and I look forward to seeing how those ideas further develop for many comics to come!
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.
Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s or 1970s, while other historians state that during the Cold War, Western officials referred to the Soviet propaganda strategy by that term.
Journalist Luke Harding described Russian whataboutism as “practically a national ideology”.
The New Yorker described the technique as “a strategy of false moral equivalences”. Wikipedia
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Yet another thing the Republicans took from the Russians.
There is much “Whataboutism” within this site’s comment sections particularly if a ‘toonist pokes fun at a dem (see today’s Tom Stiglich ‘toon for several good examples). I suppose there’d be more whataboutism from the right around here if there were more righties but the lefties outnumber them 50-1 here.
It is quite pleasant to see “Tommy” and “Johnny” verbally sparring like two kids on the playground! The reality was much ‘darker’ – especially among their supporters – I think we’re ALL going to need this historical reminder once the ACTUAL 2020 campaign gets started – the coming vituperation desperately calls out for historical context!
Whataboutism is such a flexible concept. Such a convenient cudgel.
In some cases the criticism is wholly deserved. But far too often people use it as an epitaph to condemn a legitimate but inconvenient comparison. The most common examples concern past and present government policies. Current policy is condemned. Any comparison to similar prior policy is condemned. The more similar the details the more energetically it is rejected.
A point is made and a counterpoint is offered. If the counterpoint is too close for comfort, it is branded as whataboutism and the entire argument is ridiculed. Legitimate debate and discussion are thrown under the bus.
Brian Carroll creator over 4 years ago
Three years of Two Party Opera!
Thank you all for reading the comic and continuing to follow along this trip through history and politics. Through my time writing about the Presidents and the discussions we’ve had through GoComics and social media, I have deepened my understanding of what justice, community, and patriotism mean to me and I look forward to seeing how those ideas further develop for many comics to come!
Smitty over 4 years ago
TJ came perilously close to spilling some wine there…
gerard.adelman over 4 years ago
Your work is the most original available and always thought provoking. Thank you.
bxclent Premium Member over 4 years ago
whats it all about………..
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member over 4 years ago
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!
THANK YOU, BRIAN!
(okay, done shouting)
Dani Rice over 4 years ago
Best strip on the web! Thank you, Mr. Carroll.
Radish the wordsmith over 4 years ago
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.
Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s or 1970s, while other historians state that during the Cold War, Western officials referred to the Soviet propaganda strategy by that term.Journalist Luke Harding described Russian whataboutism as “practically a national ideology”.
The New Yorker described the technique as “a strategy of false moral equivalences”. Wikipedia.
Yet another thing the Republicans took from the Russians.
ChristopherBurns over 4 years ago
But then there is it’s twin. When actual hypocrisy is pointed out and the reply is – we’re not going to get into “whataboutism”.
Kip W over 4 years ago
What a bout!
danielmsampson over 4 years ago
keep up the good work
guyjen2004 Premium Member over 4 years ago
There is much “Whataboutism” within this site’s comment sections particularly if a ‘toonist pokes fun at a dem (see today’s Tom Stiglich ‘toon for several good examples). I suppose there’d be more whataboutism from the right around here if there were more righties but the lefties outnumber them 50-1 here.
bevtracy2011 over 4 years ago
Congratulations on a most excellent comic! People don’t realize how important they can be!
wellis1947 Premium Member over 4 years ago
It is quite pleasant to see “Tommy” and “Johnny” verbally sparring like two kids on the playground! The reality was much ‘darker’ – especially among their supporters – I think we’re ALL going to need this historical reminder once the ACTUAL 2020 campaign gets started – the coming vituperation desperately calls out for historical context!
Fenshaw over 4 years ago
You have enlightened and enriched us for (has it been 3 years?). I’m willing to vote you in for another 8.
danketaz Premium Member over 4 years ago
“Who’s on first”pops to mind.
Andrew Sleeth over 4 years ago
What’s on second?
Concretionist over 4 years ago
Thanks Brian. I always look forward to learning a bit of what you’ve learned! And enjoying the humor.
Andylit Premium Member over 4 years ago
Whataboutism is such a flexible concept. Such a convenient cudgel.
In some cases the criticism is wholly deserved. But far too often people use it as an epitaph to condemn a legitimate but inconvenient comparison. The most common examples concern past and present government policies. Current policy is condemned. Any comparison to similar prior policy is condemned. The more similar the details the more energetically it is rejected.
A point is made and a counterpoint is offered. If the counterpoint is too close for comfort, it is branded as whataboutism and the entire argument is ridiculed. Legitimate debate and discussion are thrown under the bus.
happyhollow over 4 years ago
Hey! What about a personally signed copy of our individually favorite cartoon for each of us addicted 2PO’s?
Moon57Shine over 4 years ago
Well, what about it?
Scoutmaster77 over 4 years ago
We miss ya, man!
Cheapskate0 over 4 years ago
Since Brian hasn’t put out a comic strip in a while how about a joke?
I heard that Republicans are going to start a comic strip to counter Two Party Opera. It will be called..
Tea Party Soap Opera!
Uh oh! Incoming rotten tomatoes!
Godfreydaniel over 4 years ago
There must be a fat lady singing somewhere, because the opera seems to be over……..