I don’t consider this much of a compromise. It was more like each party got to claim their non-negotiable demands and punted the hard decisions further down the road. The GOP also gained more, because when the actual emergency unemployment provisions ran out, and people lost unemployment after 26 weeks, the GOP would have finally understood what the bill actually accomplished and would have passed the extension. The GOP still thinks the unemployment provision extends benefits 13 months past the 99 weeks. Idiots.
I think I agree with Human. Why can’t Obama and Congress create some sort of CCC or WPA to put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure. Regardless of what Republicans think, the vast majority of people would rather work than draw unemployment checks.
It takes a huge infrastructure in today’s “market” to reinstate a CCC type program- that would grow government expenditures again over costs of unemployment payments. The “compromise” was made with a gun at the head, and makes a lot of folks gag, but after nearly 25 years of conservative backed disasters with the “people” going downhill, as corporations and a few elite in the plutocracy gained ever more status- it will take a lot more effort, from both sides, but there still isn’t enough ballast on the port side of the ship to stabilize it.
@church, the only officials I’ve heard misstate (explicitly misstate) what the UI extension is are GOP. Plenty of folk use the “13 month extension” which is technically accurate, just incomplete. The GOP on other hand, like Orin Hatch, misstate what the extension means explicitly. Hatch obviously has no idea what the extension was. He, therefore, in my book, is an idiot. You’d think one of his staff people would correct him, just to prevent him sounding like an idiot.
Church, so what you’re saying is the Dems are doing to that what the Republicans did to the health insurance reform bill. I’ll just file that one under “politics as usual.”
@church, you put up a link of a You-Tube video as a credible source? You’re kidding right? How about something from the LA Times, NYT Times, Washington Post, heck, even the Washington Times, or Chicago Tribune, McClatchy, or any actual organization that employs journalists. Or even a credible conservative columnist. The right wing blog stuff doesn’t do it for me.
OTOH, I agree with you that the remarks you posted from Obama, if correct, are misleading. OTOH, Hatch actually stated (incorrectly) that the extension meant receiving unemployment benefits up to 3 years. As I said, you’d think his staff would correct him just to he didn’t sound like an idiot.
ChukLitl Premium Member over 13 years ago
“If they’re shooting at you from both sides, you’re probably standing in the right place.” Richard Nixon
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
I don’t consider this much of a compromise. It was more like each party got to claim their non-negotiable demands and punted the hard decisions further down the road. The GOP also gained more, because when the actual emergency unemployment provisions ran out, and people lost unemployment after 26 weeks, the GOP would have finally understood what the bill actually accomplished and would have passed the extension. The GOP still thinks the unemployment provision extends benefits 13 months past the 99 weeks. Idiots.
Bluejayz over 13 years ago
I think I agree with Human. Why can’t Obama and Congress create some sort of CCC or WPA to put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure. Regardless of what Republicans think, the vast majority of people would rather work than draw unemployment checks.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
It takes a huge infrastructure in today’s “market” to reinstate a CCC type program- that would grow government expenditures again over costs of unemployment payments. The “compromise” was made with a gun at the head, and makes a lot of folks gag, but after nearly 25 years of conservative backed disasters with the “people” going downhill, as corporations and a few elite in the plutocracy gained ever more status- it will take a lot more effort, from both sides, but there still isn’t enough ballast on the port side of the ship to stabilize it.
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
@church, the only officials I’ve heard misstate (explicitly misstate) what the UI extension is are GOP. Plenty of folk use the “13 month extension” which is technically accurate, just incomplete. The GOP on other hand, like Orin Hatch, misstate what the extension means explicitly. Hatch obviously has no idea what the extension was. He, therefore, in my book, is an idiot. You’d think one of his staff people would correct him, just to prevent him sounding like an idiot.
wittyvegan over 13 years ago
Compromise? The right got everything they wanted. What did they give?
rockngolfer over 13 years ago
Red Skelton used to do a bit where he substituted the word “pump” for “heart”.
Churchillwaswrong, you are all pump.
Jason Allen over 13 years ago
Church, so what you’re saying is the Dems are doing to that what the Republicans did to the health insurance reform bill. I’ll just file that one under “politics as usual.”
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
@church, you put up a link of a You-Tube video as a credible source? You’re kidding right? How about something from the LA Times, NYT Times, Washington Post, heck, even the Washington Times, or Chicago Tribune, McClatchy, or any actual organization that employs journalists. Or even a credible conservative columnist. The right wing blog stuff doesn’t do it for me.
OTOH, I agree with you that the remarks you posted from Obama, if correct, are misleading. OTOH, Hatch actually stated (incorrectly) that the extension meant receiving unemployment benefits up to 3 years. As I said, you’d think his staff would correct him just to he didn’t sound like an idiot.
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
@church, I’d read Krauthammer’s column, and note the facts he includes, even if I don’t agree with his opinion. So post it.