speaking of “moles”….
Kagan is “legal progressive” from her head to her toes…she worked for and chose to admire 2 of the top “legal progressives”…her writings are even “more progressive”….
Why doesn’t someone ask her if her legal education omitted “legal progressive” and other designations….?
most regular citizens can see that she is a Liberal trying to pretend to be “moderate to conservative”….and Patriotic, too, ha. (I saw news reports that some military have joined in a protest of her being seated in the USSC)
And if Kagan is a liberal, What trouble does it make? As long as all of the supreme court is not liberal.
Liberals are a part of american society. Therefore, they should be represented at the supreme court. If it wasn’t for them, America’s relationship with the rest of the World (except Israel) would be a disaster.
HQ – how many books have you written? Did you keep the rough drafts?
I’ve published four. I don’t keep drafts. I put them in recycling as soon as the book is in page proofs.
I might also say that every book I’ve published has benefited from good editing. I’m quite sure that Obama’s books were edited. But there is no evidence that the writing is not his.
Why do you persist in silly insulting accusations that just make you look stupid and mean-spirited? If you don’t like Obama’s policies, then argue against them. But these insults do no good to your cause.
a “progressive” is now the bad word, because “liberal” has fallen off the table… and yet “conservative” justice is just fine. We’ve shifted the whole argument so far to the right that even a mild term like “progressive” is a deal-breaker…
Lonecat, I’m sure you know what “voice” is. Both of Obama’s books come through quite clear, and yes, a good editor is needed. I’ve been stalled on current projects precisely because I could use a good editor to “clean things up” (not copy editor) for continuity, and reviewing the dialogue.
Kagan of course comes forward with far better “creds” than either Thomas or Roberts, it doesn’t take experience behind the bench, when it’s far more challenging to appear repeatedly before it.
I’ll also bet that she’s capable of participating in oral arguments, which Thomas can’t seem to accomplish.
People should have the right to call themselves what they want. My “liberal” friends say they now prefer the word “progressive”. Sobeit.
One of these changes that surprised me was because I was taught to use scientific words so as to avoid insult. Thus using the anatomic name for body parts might date me but was non controversial. Thus in a discussion I will use the word Caucasian to be scientifically accurate.
I recently used the word “homosexual” in a legal sense but was corrected. That term is now an insult and the only acceptable word is “gay”. Live and learn. Jade, was I informed correctly?
I don’t like the term progressive. It insinuates that your opponents oppose progress, which is not true. Also assumes everything they support is progress, also not true.
“I recently used the word “homosexual” in a legal sense but was corrected. That term is now an insult and the only acceptable word is “gay”. Live and learn. Jade, was I informed correctly?”
Doesn’t really matter to me. But then again I’m not gay nor homosexual. I think people get a little too caught up in terminology. Nothing like whining over a term when there’re bigger issues to focus on. But meh, getting the left to get on message is like herding cats. The right is so much better at it.
trout – fiction? How’s it going? I dabble with fiction, but I have to admit that I just don’t have the talent. I can analyze other people’s work just fine, but I when I try to write stories I just get all tied up in knots. My dialogue always sounds like robots on a slow day. Oh, well.
I refuse to be identified with the “Wing Nuts” who populate your replies. They probably stay awake nights listening to rebroadcasts of both Glenn Beck and multimillionaire Rushs latest diatribes. The Birthers the haters and of course the racists have divided this country so that it is now unrecognizable.Thank you Ronald, and of course George W.
Lonecat- 2 novels finished in 1st and respectively 2d draft- had a publisher ready to buy, but I didn’t get with the edits and dialogue “clean up”, my fault. (PTSD doesn’t help you focus) 3 more novels close to finished and 4 more at various stages + a screenplay I’m trying to get finished to pitch in Aug. 1st drafts are easy, its the editing that drives me “nuts”. (yes, folks, I know.)
Published shorts, plus non-fiction articles and “technical” articles and books for “government” sources. Having written and had “others” RE-write environmental documents- I’m also familiar with how “non-fiction” can become “fiction” if it offends the “corporate” powers that be!!!
trout – that is super neat. Who do you read? I used to try to keep up with current fiction, but then I got a job. Most of what I read professionally is two thousand years old, or more. So I’m always looking for more recent recommendations.
Lonecat: Just finished Nevada Barr’s latest “Borderline”-(I was a Ranger too), reading “Matterhorn”- guy’s first novel, “After the Prophet” by Hazelton, “Storms of My Grandchildren” Hansen, read all the “Potter” books, have several autographed Heinlein, like history (like Asimov AND his fiction), science, science fiction (write it too) and suspense -especially with humor (write that too-2 completed as noted) and one of my books is an adventure that takes place 4,000 years ago in southern California based on Native American creation mythologies-(including grizzly bear “incidents”) so did a lot of research. Most novels in that “genre” are terrible on accuracy and depiction of the people. (2/3 done writing it and need to FINISH it!) Also have 30 short stories on ‘Nam (semi-autobiography) that I need to either tie together chronologically in a novel, or publish as an anthology— but other than that–!!!
AS my spousal unit (the librarian-really) says, I’m great at starting, poor at finishing up- would you guess??(My shrink once actually said I have a “fear of success”.She liked my stuff too,as have many editors.)
WHICH- to the toon- a lot of people who’ve written, taught, and practiced many aspects of the law, while NOT actually sitting at the bench, may be far more qualified to sit on the highest one.
Trout – thanks for the recommendations. I will check these out.
I used to read a lot of science fiction – I love early Heinlein, up to Stranger in a Strange Land – but after that I think he gets a little mannered and repetitive. I just finished rereading (for the upteenth time) Citizen of the Galaxy – what a great book!! I grew up reading Asimov and Arthur Clarke and Farmer and Le Guin and Sturgeon and gosh lots and lots. Do you read Philip K. Dick? He’s uneven, but at his best he’s quite remarkable. His non-science-fiction novel The Confessions of a bleeep Artist is one of my favorite books of all time. Also Lem’s Solaris – I haven’t read his other books, but I intend to. Silverberg at times, but he wrote so much, and not all of it is good. But all of this is now very old – I feel out of touch with the newer writers.
I understand fear of success. I sometimes think I live precariously balanced between fear of success and fear of failure. But as I age, I think I’m less worried about how I appear to others, and that makes life a little easier.
WarBush almost 14 years ago
<======As progressive as I was!
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“Anyone seen Obama”s old collage papers? How about any of the rough drafts for his book? ”
Safer than Bob McDonnell’s college papers.Whatroughbeast almost 14 years ago
^ At least his are out there to be reviewed and criticized by you.
Governor of one state is a far cry from president of fifty. Ah, but that’s what’s so great about freedom. Everyone can detest whom they want.
pirate227 almost 14 years ago
Neither does the GOP.
disgustedtaxpayer almost 14 years ago
speaking of “moles”…. Kagan is “legal progressive” from her head to her toes…she worked for and chose to admire 2 of the top “legal progressives”…her writings are even “more progressive”….
Why doesn’t someone ask her if her legal education omitted “legal progressive” and other designations….?
most regular citizens can see that she is a Liberal trying to pretend to be “moderate to conservative”….and Patriotic, too, ha. (I saw news reports that some military have joined in a protest of her being seated in the USSC)
lalas almost 14 years ago
The right got to have their pro-corporate activist tools… let us have our slightly less-corporate tools.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 14 years ago
And if Kagan is a liberal, What trouble does it make? As long as all of the supreme court is not liberal.
Liberals are a part of american society. Therefore, they should be represented at the supreme court. If it wasn’t for them, America’s relationship with the rest of the World (except Israel) would be a disaster.
lonecat almost 14 years ago
HQ – how many books have you written? Did you keep the rough drafts?
I’ve published four. I don’t keep drafts. I put them in recycling as soon as the book is in page proofs.
I might also say that every book I’ve published has benefited from good editing. I’m quite sure that Obama’s books were edited. But there is no evidence that the writing is not his.
Why do you persist in silly insulting accusations that just make you look stupid and mean-spirited? If you don’t like Obama’s policies, then argue against them. But these insults do no good to your cause.
biemmezeta almost 14 years ago
I love it.
jqmcd almost 14 years ago
a “progressive” is now the bad word, because “liberal” has fallen off the table… and yet “conservative” justice is just fine. We’ve shifted the whole argument so far to the right that even a mild term like “progressive” is a deal-breaker…
pathetic, really…
charliekane almost 14 years ago
Looks good to me, I’ll take her.
^Yeah. Summa our posters have fallen offa th’ table a time or two too many.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“she worked for and chose to admire 2 of the top “legal progressives”…”
Because helping to support desegregation is bad?“(I saw news reports that some military have joined in a protest of her being seated in the USSC)”
And “some military” support her. Odd.Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Lonecat, I’m sure you know what “voice” is. Both of Obama’s books come through quite clear, and yes, a good editor is needed. I’ve been stalled on current projects precisely because I could use a good editor to “clean things up” (not copy editor) for continuity, and reviewing the dialogue.
Kagan of course comes forward with far better “creds” than either Thomas or Roberts, it doesn’t take experience behind the bench, when it’s far more challenging to appear repeatedly before it.
I’ll also bet that she’s capable of participating in oral arguments, which Thomas can’t seem to accomplish.
Libertarian1 almost 14 years ago
People should have the right to call themselves what they want. My “liberal” friends say they now prefer the word “progressive”. Sobeit.
One of these changes that surprised me was because I was taught to use scientific words so as to avoid insult. Thus using the anatomic name for body parts might date me but was non controversial. Thus in a discussion I will use the word Caucasian to be scientifically accurate.
I recently used the word “homosexual” in a legal sense but was corrected. That term is now an insult and the only acceptable word is “gay”. Live and learn. Jade, was I informed correctly?
iamthelorax almost 14 years ago
I don’t like the term progressive. It insinuates that your opponents oppose progress, which is not true. Also assumes everything they support is progress, also not true.
SuperGriz almost 14 years ago
The God Gap,
What are you yapping on about?
SuperGriz almost 14 years ago
Libertarian1,
Yes, you’ve been mis-informed. You should get out more.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homosexual
Libertarian1 almost 14 years ago
SuperGriz
Your reference is 2003. Maybe times have changed.
Re liberal/progressive. My guess is liberal has become such a negative term that in defense the proponents have changed their yclept.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“I recently used the word “homosexual” in a legal sense but was corrected. That term is now an insult and the only acceptable word is “gay”. Live and learn. Jade, was I informed correctly?”
Doesn’t really matter to me. But then again I’m not gay nor homosexual. I think people get a little too caught up in terminology. Nothing like whining over a term when there’re bigger issues to focus on. But meh, getting the left to get on message is like herding cats. The right is so much better at it.Charles Brobst Premium Member almost 14 years ago
As opposed to the Legal regressives Bush put on the court who undo a century of progress in favor of corporations and the NRA?
lonecat almost 14 years ago
trout – fiction? How’s it going? I dabble with fiction, but I have to admit that I just don’t have the talent. I can analyze other people’s work just fine, but I when I try to write stories I just get all tied up in knots. My dialogue always sounds like robots on a slow day. Oh, well.
bgee2007 almost 14 years ago
I refuse to be identified with the “Wing Nuts” who populate your replies. They probably stay awake nights listening to rebroadcasts of both Glenn Beck and multimillionaire Rushs latest diatribes. The Birthers the haters and of course the racists have divided this country so that it is now unrecognizable.Thank you Ronald, and of course George W.
SuperGriz almost 14 years ago
Libertarian1,
Seven years is an eon in gay time.
Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Lonecat- 2 novels finished in 1st and respectively 2d draft- had a publisher ready to buy, but I didn’t get with the edits and dialogue “clean up”, my fault. (PTSD doesn’t help you focus) 3 more novels close to finished and 4 more at various stages + a screenplay I’m trying to get finished to pitch in Aug. 1st drafts are easy, its the editing that drives me “nuts”. (yes, folks, I know.)
Published shorts, plus non-fiction articles and “technical” articles and books for “government” sources. Having written and had “others” RE-write environmental documents- I’m also familiar with how “non-fiction” can become “fiction” if it offends the “corporate” powers that be!!!
Michigander almost 14 years ago
If you don’t know what it means, then why are you about to be a Supreme Court Justice? I hope that you know what guilty and not guilty means.
lonecat almost 14 years ago
trout – that is super neat. Who do you read? I used to try to keep up with current fiction, but then I got a job. Most of what I read professionally is two thousand years old, or more. So I’m always looking for more recent recommendations.
Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Lonecat: Just finished Nevada Barr’s latest “Borderline”-(I was a Ranger too), reading “Matterhorn”- guy’s first novel, “After the Prophet” by Hazelton, “Storms of My Grandchildren” Hansen, read all the “Potter” books, have several autographed Heinlein, like history (like Asimov AND his fiction), science, science fiction (write it too) and suspense -especially with humor (write that too-2 completed as noted) and one of my books is an adventure that takes place 4,000 years ago in southern California based on Native American creation mythologies-(including grizzly bear “incidents”) so did a lot of research. Most novels in that “genre” are terrible on accuracy and depiction of the people. (2/3 done writing it and need to FINISH it!) Also have 30 short stories on ‘Nam (semi-autobiography) that I need to either tie together chronologically in a novel, or publish as an anthology— but other than that–!!!
AS my spousal unit (the librarian-really) says, I’m great at starting, poor at finishing up- would you guess??(My shrink once actually said I have a “fear of success”.She liked my stuff too,as have many editors.)
WHICH- to the toon- a lot of people who’ve written, taught, and practiced many aspects of the law, while NOT actually sitting at the bench, may be far more qualified to sit on the highest one.
lonecat almost 14 years ago
Trout – thanks for the recommendations. I will check these out.
I used to read a lot of science fiction – I love early Heinlein, up to Stranger in a Strange Land – but after that I think he gets a little mannered and repetitive. I just finished rereading (for the upteenth time) Citizen of the Galaxy – what a great book!! I grew up reading Asimov and Arthur Clarke and Farmer and Le Guin and Sturgeon and gosh lots and lots. Do you read Philip K. Dick? He’s uneven, but at his best he’s quite remarkable. His non-science-fiction novel The Confessions of a bleeep Artist is one of my favorite books of all time. Also Lem’s Solaris – I haven’t read his other books, but I intend to. Silverberg at times, but he wrote so much, and not all of it is good. But all of this is now very old – I feel out of touch with the newer writers.
I understand fear of success. I sometimes think I live precariously balanced between fear of success and fear of failure. But as I age, I think I’m less worried about how I appear to others, and that makes life a little easier.