Right wing unsubstantiated talking point, companies upset about Indiana but not Saudi Arabia. Of course it misses the point of our United States of America where we are equals.
The real hypocrisy is that we regard Israel and Saudi Arabia as our “best friends” in the MIddle East- U.S.S. Liberty and the World Trade Center, attacked by Israel and Saudis respectively, and the ideology regarding gays and punishements from the Torah/Quran (the same) are a problem?
Hmm, note that Ramirez would cut off the LEFT, not the right, which is called for in the “off with their heads” crowd in Riyadh. Freudian intent, not slip?
Hmm, is the fact the veins are still engorged supposed to represent Apple being a torniquet choking things (thoughts, freedom) off, as in Indiana, or saving a life- at least leaving the hand re-attchable?
poster Locke is correct…Ramirez is pointing out the Apple company’s hypocrisy in condemning Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration law (which the chicken governor Pence caved on and ordered the state legislature to renege), while the Apple company does business with foreign buyers who practice Sharia Law and maim and execute people for the slightest “heresy” to Islamic insanity.
-We in the USA should keep our freedom to speak and promote what we believe is good and criticize what we believe is bad. Legalizing and “normalizing” the gross sin of homosexuality is to any Bible believer, “BAD”!-p.s. Troutma….it is not Ramirez who believes or endorses cutting off either right or left hand!-@Ted Lind….the original Indiana Restoration of Religious Freedom act does NOT “discriminate” against homosexuals.It merely gives Christians or other religious citizens the right to do business without sinning against the God of the Bible.That “right” used to be a given, without using force of government to punish citizens for living their Faith.
People do not understand Freedom of Religion or Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993
The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
The US constitution applies to what the government can and can not do. Not how people interact with each other.
Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 -“In the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Congress states in its findings that a religiously neutral law can burden a religion just as much as one that was intended to interfere with religion;4 therefore the Act states that the “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability.”” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act
Nothing wrong with that. The Indiana law tried to go further by government shield public businesses from the consequences of what they do to one another, though they say that wasn’t the intent. Why do they need a state law when there is already a federal law other than political.
Repeat Freedom of Religion is the government not making laws that violate religious freedom. People in the US can practice their religious freedom but they can’t hide behind it. Through history, religion has been used to justify all sort of things like slavery, other people not being fully human, lynching, women equality etc. In a civil society in public places you can not hide behind your religion and discriminate without the possibility of consequences. You have the right to exercise your freedom of religion and discriminate and the other person can sue you. If religious freedom without repercussions were allowed ISIS would have a field day. The world would be a terrible place to live.
It is deplorable that people treat people the way they do. It is terrible that people discriminate, or do not allow people to marry the people they want to, and it is terrible that people sue each other over everything and not try and work things out or find other alternatives.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member about 9 years ago
I think it is a comment on how Indiana’s Religious Freedom law allows it’s citizens to discriminate against those brutal Muslims.
Odon Premium Member about 9 years ago
Right wing unsubstantiated talking point, companies upset about Indiana but not Saudi Arabia. Of course it misses the point of our United States of America where we are equals.
Durak Premium Member about 9 years ago
Not forgiving Apple or anything but shouldn’t we expect to have higher standards here in the US than in Saudi Arabia?
Funniguy about 9 years ago
Well, if the iWatch is so damned good it can probably answer all of your questions AND speculations.
Kip W about 9 years ago
See that “hypocrisy”? Ramirez is atoning for years of wretched cartoons.
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
The real hypocrisy is that we regard Israel and Saudi Arabia as our “best friends” in the MIddle East- U.S.S. Liberty and the World Trade Center, attacked by Israel and Saudis respectively, and the ideology regarding gays and punishements from the Torah/Quran (the same) are a problem?
Hmm, note that Ramirez would cut off the LEFT, not the right, which is called for in the “off with their heads” crowd in Riyadh. Freudian intent, not slip?
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
Hmm, is the fact the veins are still engorged supposed to represent Apple being a torniquet choking things (thoughts, freedom) off, as in Indiana, or saving a life- at least leaving the hand re-attchable?
kline0800 about 9 years ago
-We in the USA should keep our freedom to speak and promote what we believe is good and criticize what we believe is bad. Legalizing and “normalizing” the gross sin of homosexuality is to any Bible believer, “BAD”!-p.s. Troutma….it is not Ramirez who believes or endorses cutting off either right or left hand!-@Ted Lind….the original Indiana Restoration of Religious Freedom act does NOT “discriminate” against homosexuals.It merely gives Christians or other religious citizens the right to do business without sinning against the God of the Bible.That “right” used to be a given, without using force of government to punish citizens for living their Faith.
PainterArt Premium Member about 9 years ago
People do not understand Freedom of Religion or Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993
The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
The US constitution applies to what the government can and can not do. Not how people interact with each other.
Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 -“In the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Congress states in its findings that a religiously neutral law can burden a religion just as much as one that was intended to interfere with religion;4 therefore the Act states that the “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability.”” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act
Nothing wrong with that. The Indiana law tried to go further by government shield public businesses from the consequences of what they do to one another, though they say that wasn’t the intent. Why do they need a state law when there is already a federal law other than political.
Repeat Freedom of Religion is the government not making laws that violate religious freedom. People in the US can practice their religious freedom but they can’t hide behind it. Through history, religion has been used to justify all sort of things like slavery, other people not being fully human, lynching, women equality etc. In a civil society in public places you can not hide behind your religion and discriminate without the possibility of consequences. You have the right to exercise your freedom of religion and discriminate and the other person can sue you. If religious freedom without repercussions were allowed ISIS would have a field day. The world would be a terrible place to live.
It is deplorable that people treat people the way they do. It is terrible that people discriminate, or do not allow people to marry the people they want to, and it is terrible that people sue each other over everything and not try and work things out or find other alternatives.
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
“disgusted” I"m simply amazed to find out that China is a Muslim country practicing Sharia law!!
PainterArt Premium Member about 9 years ago
I haven’t accused anyone. Christian or not.
PainterArt Premium Member about 9 years ago
Sorry for my densosity.