Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for May 16, 2015

Oh, Quill.

Well, it’s gonna be Wall Street in here, now- We’ll be like “Speculators” anticipating "Futures"… our “mad rush” to “buy and sell” …this strip may probably be generating a lot of "Interest"… – But in all actuality, it could be most likely just the fact that Gunther doesn’t want it to be known that he likes Tiffany- and also that they were able to work well, and he enjoyed being around her…

What “Tiffany thing”? That the two lab partners did their hoemwork assignment together? That’s all he’s told Quill (or us).

Things look so different in the morning.

“Pros And Confidence”“(I’m In Love With) An Uptown Girl” (♫)“Midnight Confessions” (♫)“Dangerous Alliance”“She’s Human, To Me”“Oohs And Claws”“Fathom A Deep Secret”“A Closet”“If You Only Knew What I Know You Know That You Didn’t Know That I Knew That I Thought You Knew But Didn’t Know Till I Told You…”“Life On The Edge Of A Cliffhanger”“And Throw Away The Key”or“It’s All Your Vault!”

It’s still possible Gunther and Tiffany simply had a heart to heart conversation.I’d still like to see a scenario where she opens up to someone and discover a vulnerable Tiffany.

Sweetgeebus, how many people just wait to comment on this strip?

“We’ll probably never know; as usual…”.But someone probably hit the nail on the head yesterday.

Yup, Gunther scores before Brad does!

“…If it was just simple homework doings or lab partnering stuff, there would be no need to keep that a secret.”^Not if the secret is the fact that Gunther actually thinks Tiffany isn’t all that bad, or if he is thinking of her as someone that he could like. A lot of people could tease or “berate” him for liking a girl that some have on their list of “the most annoying” people…. especially if one of them is named “Luann”…..

Something traumatic happened. Gunther learned that Tiffany is Mr. Gray’s niece.

You need to take a look at the comments on the ArcaMax site, instead of just Comics Curmudgeon. There’s a very angry discussion about the fact that Evans fathered a child out of wedlock and abandoned that child, and the thought of some posters is that he is repeating that with Gunther.-Not my idea; I don’t post with Disqus. But a totally different direction…

Kind of feel sorry for Tiff. I think most of all that, is a facade.We’ll see.

Not “craw”…“CRAW”!!! (From “Get Smart”)

Quill, with his smugness, is becoming as unlikable as Gunther with his frequent temper explosions.-We really DO need some new characters, since the old ones seem to be evolving in unpleasant directions…

My family has a history of adopting kids who were abandoned, and the kids go through a lot of misery, wondering why they weren’t good enough to keep and so on. One of the many reasons why I despised Steve Jobs.

I would welcome a story about kids in genuinely interesting college classes that give them new ideas about their future, but I guess that’s not on anyone’s agenda…

Rather disappointed in Quill and proud of Gunther. There’s a lot of temptation among guys to blab all, and too many yield. Luann should beware.

from implied things in the past, both G and Tiff are still virgins(flirting is not same thing as doing it), but lot of people in other places on web are taking it “as fact” that they went all the way and even speculating if they did or did not take “precautions” so they would not be parents, is more likely that the farthest they got was some french kissing

Evans did not “abandon” his son, he and his wife (girlfriend at the time) decided that they weren’t ready to raise a child and gave the baby up for adoption. And from what we know, the baby was adopted by a loving and attentive mother. Argythree – I can’t speak from personal experience as you can, but surely not all adoptions are seen as “abandonments” and filled with misery?

So… we don’t really know what happened between Gunther and Tiffany. Gotta embrace the ambiguity, folks!

What happens in Tifffanys room stays in Tiffany’s room.

Quill is taking advantage of Gunther’s perturbed state to try to trick him with word games. But Gunther has managed to fend him off. Nothing of the kind that the prurient fantasize about happened between Tiffany and Gunther, but it is possible that one or both may be developing some feelings for the other. We shall see as the story unfolds….

can’t see a homerun as what happened, but I think there is a chance it was a “ground rule double” ;)

Well, its not often (in fact I can’t think of when the last time was, but I’m sure it happened) that Tiff gets flustered in a positive way (that is, not angry) -and she certainly did at her apartment. There was a LOT of uhm, tension, there. Who wants to bet if she didn’t take another cold shower after Gunther left?

Wonderful Stuff this COFFEE. Makes a MAN Outta ya, Right Gunth?

All these questions and more to be answered! But not Monday, almost certain we jump to a new storyline.

OMG! “Hades” appears to have lost a few degrees…. I actually, totally, agree with you! 8-O

I am, as well, disappointed we didn’t learn more about the “encounter.” Greg does appear to be getting much better at “teasing” his audience and leaving them “wanting more…” Or, perhaps, this is Karen’s influence. Whatever…. I guess we’ll have to wait. I also agree that the arc will change again, this coming week.

And…uh….when does Rosa come back into this little story?

Well, must be time for a new story line. On Gunther and Tiffany, we can draw our own conclusions, so I like that.

The claw marks may be on Gunthie’s back.

So just yesterday Quill was all worried that Gunther was pressured into it but now he’s pulling a you da man gunther but Tiff is a whore card? Ridiculous.

We have found out that Tiffany has been raised by indifferent parents who denied her affection. This explains Tiffany’s constant search for approval. Tiffany is actually a likable character.

Sex is normal adult behavior. College is not high school in which teasing should matter anymore. The issue switches from avoiding teasing to respecting other’s privacy and relationships.

I hope that, in the future, we find that Gunther treated Tiffany’s feelings and his relationship with her with proper respect. Tiffany deserves that for a change.

“WHY am I agreeing to this, mate? It’s SO much more fun reading the speculations of all you nice folks out there beyond the fourth wall…”

I think they had sex…but I can’t imagine Gunther came prepared with protection. A baby-bump in the future for Tiffany?

Dunno about the sex. For Gunther a few hours of necking, or heck just few minutes, would be an explosion of wild libertine abandonment, and would be plenty about which to be embarrassed. As we all know that boy ain’t right.

Where is Tiffany in this? I want to see her reaction.

“Stop teasing me, you brute! I just hope I’m not pregnant. Hey, I’m already feeling hormonal! That’s not good!”

Not sure what to think here. My most prominent impression is the negative reaction I have to Gunther’s expression in panel 2. To me it reads rather “snarky” and appears as if he is attempting to suggest “tawdriness” to whatever happened or didn’t happen between he and Tiffany. If Gunther and Tiffany when to any level of bases (1,2,3, or even 4 (home plate)), I would hope that Gunther would not adopt a “conquest” facial expression or mindset. It is not the way I would want his character to behave. If he did not reach even 1st base, then the “conquest” sort of facial expression is a ruse he is using at Tiffany’s expense to “better” his own standing. Neither scenario is an appealing behavior from Gunther, and this, unfortunately is the way I tend to read his snarky expression in panel 2. I think it would be nice for Gunther to evolve into a relationship (with Tiffany, or Bernice, or Luann, or whomever) in a “nicer” fashion like is being portrayed for Brad. Not an engagement and wedding scenario at this stage, but just a nice, kind, fun and respectful sort of relationship.

Next week, Quill should find out that he’s been accepted for that internship in NYC this summer, right? That dilemma for Luann was left unresolved. Or maybe it’s time for the final art project of the academic year at Pitt CC?

??? What century do you live in?

Gunther doesn’t want anyone to know that he was in a lady’s room until midnight. That would sully his reputation. Gunther is not comfortable with anything sexual so nothing happened, not with him anyway. Who knows what Tiffany did.

Gunther: " Hey Quill? Should I mention we were in bed together in my room?"

Well, we all know Tiffany has claws. They’re painted Jungle Red*

A reference to a great old movie, The Women

Quoth one reader: " I’d prefer the truth, myself." and yet, in the same post this one says, “If he did sleep with her, I find it kinda sad that he didn’t defend her here.“She has claws”.“Yeah, she’s evil, but I slept with her anyway”Shouldn’t Gunther have some respect for people he sleeps with? Thought he was supposed to be a “good guy”.”

He’d be an idiot to deny she has claws, when she’d clawed him in the past. On the other hand, saying that she has not clawed him this time shows him to really be a good guy, because he’s acknowledging her capacity to change for the better. In other words, he’s being honest, but kind.

I learn a lot about people by reading these comments. People get angry at Bernice for providing Luann with reality checks. They get upset with Dez for being harmlessly authentic to who she really is. And now upset with Gunther for loving without being blind. Our culture now seems to put a high value on dishonesty and refusal to face reality—even in symbols of reality loosely sketched in a comic strip.

RE: Greg Evans’s past. I have never known anybody who gave a child up for adoption who didn’t have the child’s own best interest in mind, even a the decision broke her heart. Adoption is NOT abandonment! If you can’t supply a good home for your child, and somebody else can, it’s the right thing to do.

Tap it Gunther

“So something happened. Could be just a kiss, could have been sex. We’ll probably never know…”.A riddle, guys. What is something that did NOT happen that would be something a guy would not want to talk about.

Not likely.

Maybe.

Not nearly.

I agree.

OK, since nobody seems to have taken me up on my suggestion to look at yesterday’s comments,, here is what I was referring to.

sologdin“It seems that Gunther failed in coitus…”…JimT8 “That explanation would fit both of Gunther’s statements: “Nothing happened” and “I don’t want to talk about it.” Who would?”

Bravo to sologdin. And congratulations to everyone who has never had experience of this.

Pipe Tobacco, I don’t think Gunther’s expression is snarky. Rather, he is relieved to be just a bit off the hook for a moment.

“No Claw Marks.”. Almost sounds like Gunther thinks she wins and he loses if it happens. An unfortunate mind set…

Saying he’d sleep with her just because she’s pretty doesn’t hold water when she’s shown him herself without makeup and with messy hair. I personally don’t think sleeping-with happened (the heating coffee strip showed that neither of them wanted to go there, though their bodies were interested.) I think what happened was long talking, perhaps with kissing and cuddling, and taking the relationship further on a more wholesome level than a tawdry “I helped you with bug bites so you owe me sex.”

But if it did go all the way, Gunther is a gentleman—he’s refusing to kiss and tell. Shame on Quill for pressing the point after getting a number of clear cut “No!”s from Gunther.

Tiffany could only benefit from a relationship with Gunther. With his natural timidity he would hardly be Petruchio to her Kate but he is really the only Luann character with the kindness, intelligence, and patience to drill through that armor of vanity and arrogance to find out if there is a decent person buried somewhere in there.

Good point raised about “protection” ..Gunther likely would not have come packin’, but it’s possible Tiff had something in her room available."-—————————————Neither would be so prepared. .Only Brad has been shown “Packin’ Protection” in this strip.

about Tiff……………… the usual “assumptions” is that she is “easy with the cute guys”, but so far all it has been shown is that she is flirty(which is not same thing as “doing it”) but on her own words “never had a serious relationship AT ALL” (which most likely indicates a strong chance that she is still a virgin) AND that she is a natural dimwit when many times it has been shown that in “her element” (makeups, fashion, showing confidence, influencing people) she is quite smart, if anything, shows 1) she is lazy in studying things with no interest for her, 2) many times she refuses(or decides not to show it to others) to see anything in her life in a negative way and insists all her goals and dreams going to come true in a way that comes of as full arrogance and indifference toward others, but when she HAS TO come to bat, many times she actually comes through. So……………… No0, I don’t see her seducing Gunther all the way, and I neither see Gunther forcing Tiff to go all the way…………… most likely they french kissed and maybe did some touching but there was no intercourse, and even if they do it, I think after the reading, their body metabolism got real hot, and BOTH succumbed to it without either pressuring the other to do it…………. IF they did it, is more likely that they are in the “not sorry it happened but at same time was too soon as we have not fallen in love yet” stage and we do not know if it is G’s first time(if it happened) or he did already with Rosa(is possible but seems unlikely) or he is still a virgin

“That could certainly explain the lack of claw marks…”

Hahaha :D

Luann has been as cruel to Gunther as Tiff has.

Especially like “Claws-trophobia”! -Brings to mind one from earlier: “Escape Claws”…

A LOT of college girls(and even HS) take precautions even including asking guy to wear rubber BUT lot of girls either do not care or never learned about all ways to take precautions and even if they did, it is not 100% sure plus many people (both genders) have the right things to prevent in their purse or wallet but in the heat of the moment might forget them and not use them, specially those who are likely to still be virgins

The only thing is, many of the ArcaMax commenters are also here on GoComics… several of which post right here on “Luann". Some with the same name, and a few… with “aliases”…..

An even lower bar (more like a trap door, leading to a pit of quicksand) are the forums on Facebook. Even when the subject is one of note (such as recent news/sports stories), or is posted by the well established TV/Radio/Print news/entertainment media, some quickly turn it into a degrading session of “trading jabs and insults” (even use of terms like: “Go kill yourself”- an actual response by “an adult”), and when people disagree, the “race card” (or whatever “measure of division” is available) gets played, until it’s the equivalent of “kids in the backseat of the family ride”… - And then once in a while, some of the pics a few might post- the kind you’d have to use the “family code” on the TV/Cable box to view…

Your right and there no smart

No surprise in this arc. Long, contrived setup, sending two young people alone out in Nature, lots of innuendo, scene at Tiff’s dorm room with loads of implications, then … what? “I’m not discussing this!!” At best, the Evanses are big teases; more likely, they just don’t know how to write endings. Like that climactic (NOT) meeting between Gunth and Mr. Gray.

Sundays are reserved for Parent-enjoyed jokes about bad teenage habits, messy rooms, etc. .But on Monday this interesting Tiff/Gunther arc could continue..PREDICTION:.The arc will hang - probably never to be returned to- like ‘Mr Gray on the sofa’ and so many other interesting situations that have been dropped in the last year or so..But I do predict that two rather old “hanging arcs”— “TJ and the money from the fire”. and “Frank and the warehouse project”.will finally get addressed and brought together. Not likely to be all that interesting, however. No character development likely.

“…But i remember youtube comments and have recently noticed instagram isn’t much better either.^Agreed!

sometimes EVEN in yahoo dear Abby I have seen those kind of comments

Some “Hanging Arcs” will HAVE to be addressed, it would seem. .For example, the “Summer Trip to NY” should be addressed before Summer is over. .So that issue could well come up on Monday. (Nancy will decide to go along as chaperone.). We should see the end of Luann’s school year ( the art class etc. ) But we may not, her life at Pitts College seems hardly to exist in this story. .There are several hanging aspects related to Bernice’s dorm, but none seem to mean much thus far. None of the characters there is interesting. (Well, maybe Dez a little.).June is the season for weddings, so the Brad-Toni Arc could return soon. Doubt it though. That may go on another year or two.

That last strip, about how TJ learns mainly not to get caught, is revealing. If he and Frank do strike a deal to renovate the warehouse, probably TJ will insist that they spend a lot on insurance, to take out a policy for way more than the building is worth. Then as soon as a kitchen is installed, there’s a fire…

said yahoo like in yahoo dot com, not the link of gocomics dot com

I post comments on the King Features site, but I do so (under this same screen name, “seismic-2”) by logging in as a guest. I do not wish to become a member of Disqus!

did not say TJ would go for a relationship with Tiff, said he likes her as she has many similarities with him

Why does everyone think that Tiffany gave Gunther sex? Maybe she TOOK it from him, I like aggressive women.

Forget what’s going on between Gunth and Tiff. Check out Gunther’s left hand! That’s one of the best looking hands I’ve ever seen in a comic. Well done, Mr. Evans.

While I am not convinced Gunther & Tiffany were intimate, I am enjoying this week’s strip over the recent “will-they, won’t they” between Luann and Quill. Personally, I agree with a fellow commenter who thinks Tiffany had a heart-to-heart conversation with Gunther, which Gunther is not keen to discuss to the details with Quill.

both are most probable virgins and both are not great communicators of “inner feelings” so I would take middle ground, they took tentative passionate steps, but did not go all the way nor they “just talk”

I like your conclusions, but this is a family strip .. Evans isn’t going to be more explicit than he has to be.

There would also be nothing to discuss. I don’t tell people things I think are none of their business.

I’m betting that Gunther, even after the changes in his life, is just not going to bed any woman, not even Tiffany, at the drop of a robe. Tiff a virgin? Hm, I suppose. Gunther a virgin? Yep, definitely. If this had been the pre-Peru Gunther, he’d have come home a nervous wreck, no matter what happened. If they’d been intimate, I doubt he would have been home so soon … just sayin’, pre-or-post. That first time you are with someone .. isn’t always magical, but you do change.

Yeah, if she were givin’ it up, Evans wouldn’t need to be coy about it.

I’d say he’s gotten over the extreme phobia and now is just nervous. I remember the first time I was alone with a girl, and it appeared that something was ‘in the air’. Yeah, I was nervous.

“None of the games was even close – our team took the championship easily!”^“Good on ’em!!” Hip, hip!!

This arc has been interesting, especially when viewed along side with the individual histories of Tiffany and Gunther (as seen over the course of the strip).

While I don’t expect Luann to become 9 Chickwood Lane anytime soon, it would be interesting to see an alternate run of strips in which Evans could roam unchained and present ideas in a way that didn’t necessarily played nice in the family friendly sort of way.

Prediction: We’ll see another arc picked up on Monday, and this one will be revisited down the line. In any event, I am good with the adventures of Luann and Co.

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