How about instead we spend the money to update and modernize our rail systems? Or perhaps fix the regulatory loopholes which allow them to ship highly combustible crude on trains? Maybe if they seperated and removed the trace natural gases (like the do from oil shipped from Texas) we wouldn’t have these problems. It’s not the pipeline, genius. It’s a REGULATORY problem. One caused by the party which begins with the letter R.
Don’t like my link? Search for the DOT-111 railcar. They’re shipping the oil in cars designed in the 1960’s, The crude that they’re hauling from Canada has a MUCH higher rate of combusibility than what those cars are rated for. Guess why they blow up? Because we are stupid. Too interested in profit and beating the dumb ass Democrats. Don’t talk about the pipeline Ariail. It isn’t the problem.But you’ll go on with your cute little cartoons and thoroughly confuse the issue.
While pipelines do have a better record than train transport, pay attention to the Yellowstone river, with two pipeline failures in just one year, dumping their content into the river.
There are a lot of poorly maintained pipelines, just like rail lines in the U.S., but maintenance reduces profits, right? But the real pipeline issues are land rights, private vs corporate “rights”, not just those contents for export.
Part of the problem with the North Dakota Bakken oil, that is not occurring in states with an oil infrastructure, is that the the Bakken crude is not stabilized from its unstable volatile gases. ND does not have the facilities in place to separate the gases, nor the system for storage of the those gases. The greed to move the crude to market without the safeguards applied in other states is risky business at best and criminal at worst.
Durak Premium Member about 9 years ago
How about instead we spend the money to update and modernize our rail systems? Or perhaps fix the regulatory loopholes which allow them to ship highly combustible crude on trains? Maybe if they seperated and removed the trace natural gases (like the do from oil shipped from Texas) we wouldn’t have these problems. It’s not the pipeline, genius. It’s a REGULATORY problem. One caused by the party which begins with the letter R.
Durak Premium Member about 9 years ago
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/05/oil-tank-trains-bakken-crude-accidents
Durak Premium Member about 9 years ago
Don’t like my link? Search for the DOT-111 railcar. They’re shipping the oil in cars designed in the 1960’s, The crude that they’re hauling from Canada has a MUCH higher rate of combusibility than what those cars are rated for. Guess why they blow up? Because we are stupid. Too interested in profit and beating the dumb ass Democrats. Don’t talk about the pipeline Ariail. It isn’t the problem.But you’ll go on with your cute little cartoons and thoroughly confuse the issue.
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
While pipelines do have a better record than train transport, pay attention to the Yellowstone river, with two pipeline failures in just one year, dumping their content into the river.
There are a lot of poorly maintained pipelines, just like rail lines in the U.S., but maintenance reduces profits, right? But the real pipeline issues are land rights, private vs corporate “rights”, not just those contents for export.
Spyderred about 9 years ago
The pipeline will be built because the Republicans’ good buddies the Koch brothers have a huge investment in it.
feverjr Premium Member about 9 years ago
Part of the problem with the North Dakota Bakken oil, that is not occurring in states with an oil infrastructure, is that the the Bakken crude is not stabilized from its unstable volatile gases. ND does not have the facilities in place to separate the gases, nor the system for storage of the those gases. The greed to move the crude to market without the safeguards applied in other states is risky business at best and criminal at worst.
Charles.Gage Premium Member about 9 years ago
Would a pipeline reduce oil shipments? I’m not sure. The pipeline does not have the same route as the WV accident.