Michael Ramirez for February 13, 2015

At least conservatives know what the military is supposed to be used for. (And it’s not to be a “meals-on-wheels” service to countries where we have no vital interest)

The idiocy of this cartoon is hard to fathom. Does Ramirez really want WWIII? Does the US really face the same geopolitical situation that Wilson and Roosevelt faced? Are all wars all-out wars? Does Ramirez know anything about the history of US involvement in small wars? What government does Ramirez want the US to declare war on? If Obama asked for authorization for all-out war, would Ramirez support him? Not likely.Ramirez might learn something from Max Boot’s “The Savage Wars of Peace.” I don’t agree with Boot’s politics, but it’s an interesting book with a lot of good historical information about small wars.

This toon is so ignorant it’s sort of amazing. WWI and WW II were totally different from what we now face. Look at Jeff H. He thinks he’s going to be beheaded in the streets of Des Moines, Iowa, or wherever. That’s real likely. Yeah, so before that happens, let’s just kill ‘em all. All of them. Kill, kill, kill! I want blood, bombs, and guts spilling out on the streets. I know what the military’s for. It’s to kill! Let’s go! For the glory of the magnificent US! Kill, kill, kill! Hey John Locke and DGF999, let’s get to it. Kill them all! Drone the idiots, boots on the ground. Occupy the countries. If they don’t like it, tough. Kill them all. I know how to tamp down the idiots, kill them! Kill them over there before they come over here and try to impose Sharia law on us! Kill, kill, kill !!!! Yeah, that feels better. That’ll teach ’em!

Yes no ground troops. Instead send in the drones to soften them up.

Denis, are you 11 or 12.That story has been debunked time and again for over 13 years. Your own links show or suggest you are wrong in you comment.But, thanks for playing. As a consolation prize…

“Do you want to be beheaded in the streets of your town?”

Do you actually think that could possibly happen in the US? The beheaders would have to either outnumber us (ain’t gonna happen) or be better armed and have better defenses. Let’s be fair: a small town in Tennessee is probably far better armed than any ISIS cell could be in this country. Your “threat” is as real as when Dubya smiled at the journalist who asked him about Iraq while saying, “They want to kill your children.”

“War actually solves problems.”

And creates a whole lot more, much of the time. Do you think we’d have had so much trouble in the Middle East and in Indo-China if we hadn’t set arbitrary borders as victors after WWII?

Reparations, rebuilding of bombed-out societies, festering hatreds….this is the legacy of war. It takes a lot of “good” to make this worthwhile. Killing Hitler is a good example; it was worth the sacrifice.

The best way to stop ISIS is to stop them from getting advanced weaponry in large amounts. This would mean restrictions of international arms sales and sanctions on governments who provide money to those groups. Unfortunately, many people think a better idea is to try to kill each and every one of them. And that is a fool’s errand.

Woodrow Wilson strove every day to keep America out of the European war. He swallowed many an incident caused by the Kaiser’s submarines, because he really believed in Washington’s warning about getting involved in foreign wars. He did not want to send any American young men over to the daily slaughter. It was big business; US manufacturers were selling too much materials to France & Britain, and financiers were loaning millions to the Entente powers. It was only when Russia, wracked by revolution, was suspected of pulling out and making a separate peace, that great pressure was brought upon Wilson to enter the fray. After the congress voted to declare on Germany, and cheered, Wilson left the podium and said to an aide “What fools! Do they realize what they have just done?”.After the Pearl Harbor attack, the American people, most politicians, and the top generals & admirals thought that we were going to war against Japan only. Although FDR realized that Nazi Germany was the greater of the two belligerents, he could not convince anyone. But Hitler made the biggest mistake ever when he declared war on the US. Even though we have not had a major war since Viet Nam, it is disturbing that we have had troops in combat somewhere in the world most of that time.We, the people, can debate and complain all we want, but we are no longer part of the decision process.

“Do you want to be beheaded in the streets of your town? War actually solves problems.”

What problem, exactly, did the Viet Nam war solve?

What problem did the Iraq war solve?

Or maybe you’re thinking of the War On Drugs?

No AMERICAN boots on the ground is absolutely the right way to go. As Jordan steps up with air strikes, it is also up to the regional “powers” to provide those boots on the ground to wipe out ISIL, which is a threat to THEM, not the U.S. .

Which, look what it’s costing Jordan just to handle all those Syrian refugees they’re accommodating, as is Iraq! How many Syrian refugees are Cruz and friends willing to accept in the U.S.?

I’ll just leave this right here.

Thanks for the link. Now, just to follow logically, suppose we kill each and every person in ISIS. Do you think that would stop every American from wanting to bomb, kill, destroy?

There was an incident in Canada where a student decapitated a fellow student with a knife in the cafeteria of the school. No apparent ISIS connection. But it happened.

And people kill each other every day, for insurance payoffs, for spite, for “being disrespected”, for not paying them the $10 they owe. And no one seems to care about the thousands who die every day for these reasons. And you bring up one incident (admittedly horrendous) and use it as an example of the evil that lives on the other side of the world? Can we really generalize that much?

Ramirez ( and many of the conservative posters ) doesn’t have the slightest clue as to what US ( and CIA ) personnel are currently doing in Afghanstan!

Once more btw: How DARE HE put it on Congress to actually do their jobs, produce legislation that meets the Constitution, and show up to vote.

So you don’t agree with Ramirez’ cartoon either.

Alrighty, then.

Understood. Thanks for your explanation. Your cynicism is well taken; I feel the same way.