Ted Rall for April 21, 2010

Um, religion? Hello? And I’ve about had it with this tripartite godhead horseshite.

And is the Smirkingchimp.com t-shirt guy an active participant in the gang assault or just an innocent bystander? Nice plug, by the way.

Don’t forget when politicians (some of the “ignorant morons” mentioned in frame 4) start spewing things like ‘Obamacare won’t increase taxes’ or ‘throwing huge piles of money at big corporations will help the economy’. By the way, aren’t there enough “drunken politics goons” already in Washington?

Wanted? Mr. Rall must not subscribe to cable news channels.

Why Ted, How nice of you to draw a strip about us!

rottenprat: “Wanted? Mr. Rall must not subscribe to cable news channels.”

Or read internet forums…or for that matter his own cartoons…I guess in his America, discussions of American politics are usually civil - I wonder where THAT might be.

Or maybe he really is advocating violence.

Kylop - har!

I think he has a point.

Perhaps he was commenting on the corporate media and/or the atmosphere inside the Beltway.

Olbermann and Maddow are not drunks… Your spelling is suspect however.

If any TV commentators fit this amazingly wonderful cartoon, it would be some of those fine folks at Fox, not Olbermann and certainly not Maddow.

But Glenn Beck?!?!? Come on – that guy’s practically certifiable, he’s so loony.

I’d rather kick butt when I’m sober, which used to happen a lot back in my clubbing days.

his genes are, but he has american citizenship and born in the US.

How do you know Obama has American citizenship? He’s never produced the long-form birth certificate, Corrosive. I really don’t understand why so many people on the left give him a pass. A birth certificate has an attending physician on it, as well as a hospital name, parents’ names, time of birth, etc…Obama has never shown that. Is it asking so much that he just release it for all to see? Why do we have to “trust” the word of some Hawaiian official who says she’s seen it?

It’s just a question of, “why not show the real thing?” What possible excuse could he have?

Carol - Beck WAS certified. He has mental problems for which he takes medication.

^What’s in your medicine cabinet, Magus?

Habanero; any birth certificate will never be good for you guys. All you need is his name.

I would think that every security agency in the US government, and foreign ones too, checked out his birth status.

I would think…it’ll never be enough….surely someone somewhere….seriously, stop giving him a pass. Left, Right, Upside Down, Backwards, everyone should tell him to provide it and get on with the country, because this issue is not going to simply die, certainly not by 2012.

Radish, you make a good point, but it is my opinion that “birthers” and those opposed to the indoctrination against CO2 are deserving of a voice in the public forum without being labelled “loony.” Yes, arguing for the 12th commandment or Daryl “Raspberry” is loony. Right-wingers can be loony, no doubt, but the arguments are rooted in reason.

Habinero, If birthers are not convinced by the live birth certificate available on line since ‘08, if they are not convinced by the State Director of Health Services announcing she had reviewed the original on file, if they were not convinced by the published birth announcement in the newspaper at the time of Obama’s birth, if they are not convinced by someone who remembers speaking with the obstetrician about the birth later that day (the obstetrician died years ago)…

Why, oh why do you think the controversy will go away if yet another document is produced?

It’s like trying to convince some people that the moon landing really happened.

^The Hawaiian Official only has to attest that she saw the Certicate of Live Birth on file. Check her statements; see for yourself, nothing has as yet been conclusive. Consider this…Your candidate is running for office and someone questions his American Citizenship…So you frantically put up a document for public perusal…How do you skip over your real birth certificate and offer some generic document instead? Let’s see his High School records, College transcripts, and medical records too: every modern President has done the same…until Obama.

Oh, for the love of Cthulhu, are you kidding me? A certificate of birth was posted on the internet last year, officials vouched for it, factcheck checked it, but no, it is still not enough. I suppose you want the original mailed to your house, then? With two extra copies, signed by a notary and Obama himself, with a handwritten “cross my heart and hope to die if it isn’t true” underneath.

Pup, there is not much wiggle-room in her statement that the records verify Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen. A certificate of live birth is a real birth certificate. The birth announcement in the papers has been public record since shortly after the president was born. The evidence has been conclusive for years.

So, rather than believe the obvious, birthers would rather believe the National Democratic Party would run an unqualified person, cause health officials to lie, cause other clerks who would have been involved to keep their mouth shut, force the media to go along with the conspiracy to the point where they are fabricating information - and apparently destroying any evidence to the contrary, and then the democrats would forge a birth certificate, but for some reason are unable to forge “the long form” although they have already named the doctor, hospital, and all other information that someone might use it to verify.

Oh, really, which hospital is it, Chrisnp? Who was the doctor? I’ve never seen the Doctor’s name anywhere. There were two hospitals that have been linked to Obama’s birth, without his personal clarification on which one it was.

You think Birthers are unbelievably stupid, ahab? The question isn’t what good “another document” would do…the question is why we get everything but the real thing in the first place? Very simple question, no one has answered it, but I see more evasions from his defenders. I usually am not surprised at his supporters, but it always amazes me that people don’t agree that he should be completely open about the entire thing.

The doctor’s name was Dr. Rodney T. West, and it was at the Kapi’olani medical center, Which Obama confirms.

This stuff isn’t hard to find.

Why do I suspect that for most birthers the real problem is Obama’s father? “… indoctrination against CO2?” It’s always good to hear from yet another scientific illiterate. Do you know anything about science other than how to spell the word?

Forget politics- if you say ‘Jesus’, you can apparently rape little boys for a thousand years and your own followers will think it’s a good idea. Why, you can get away with murder and no one will think twice about you.

‘Jesus’ is the real magic word.

Chrisnp, just be honest and look at this site, just once…isn’t it perfectly clear that as late as 2008, numerous websites, including Barack Obama’s very own site, were claiming he was born at Queen’s Medical? I mean, is it unreasonable for us to just ask for the proof of which one it was and who did it? Why did McCain provide the birth certificate (when he was born in Panama) right away, but Barack never has to publicly release his?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

And, yes, I am a scientific “illiterate,” but I’m not alone with those who think increased CO2 can be good for mankind:

http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=10fe77b0-802a-23ad-4df1-fc38ed4f85e3

Uh… I don’t carry a copy of my birth certificate around… I don’t know of anyone who DOES, or why they would do so. I don’t even have a copy in my possession.

I can get a certified copy from my home town Dept. of Records, but not from the hospital itself; it’s no longer operating.

michaelwme, you had me going there until the 2nd paragraph! Funny stuff. It can be hard to detect sarcasm in print but well done there! Poor fritz…lol! Took the most obvious line seriously.

I thought the Hawaiian official said it is illegal to make personal information public…that is why we can’t see the ‘long form.’

Adam Sperry, a good point to make.

Chrisnp, well said.

Radish, I think you’re dead wrong. Evidence to the contrary doesn’t deter crazies. It couldn’t be more obvious that the Shroud of Turin is a forgery, but countless choose to believe otherwise.

That ‘indoctrination against CO2’ line scares me…How retarded and blind does one have to be to deny that our species is at the door of a doom of his own making?

I have this CRAZY hunch that birthers are just racists and sore losers. I KNOW! WHAT A LUNEY IDEA!

What I never hear ANYONE but me point out is that Obama’s birthplace is completely irrelevant! His mother was a citizen, therefore SO IS HE (PERIOD)

Hey HabBuck

John McCain was not born in the United States. Wheres the outrage there? How many politician birth certs have you seen exactly? Mitt Romney’s? Maybe someone better find it…

Fritzoid- If you live in Arizona, you’d better start. They’re about to start pulling you over.

@michaelwme

Someone tried photoshopping a fake birth cert with the president’s name on it and that’s proof?

You are torturing logic.

I’m going to buy a pack of Hello my name is stickers AND make some cash touring the country as Michael Steele, Sarah Palin and Bill Kristol. sweet.

Do you guys all really think michaelwme is for real? You guys are sure lacking in the perception department. Let me spell it out for you…H-E I-S M-A-K-I-N-G J-O-K-E-S!

I’ll admit it; I fell for it. :-)

…like people would care just as much is Barack Obama’s father was a christian from England or Italy…

…yes, race card again. Don’t act like you don’t see the elephant in the room.

Haha! :]

The Birthers may be on to something, really. No, wait a minute; just look at the facts. Sarah Palin was put up for VP and anyone can tell that she is a cabbage disguised as a human instead of an actual human. So obviously it is possible that the people behind Mr. Obama’s presidency could well have pulled a fast one too. I’m just sayin’ if John McCain missed that one who are we to say we can’t have been fooled as well? Something to think about, I’d say.

That is if you had the time to think after trying to set straight all of the nonsense that amazingly gets air-time. I figure that the idea is that the more irrational a position is the harder it is to refute. And while intelligent humans are trying to come up with a way to argue against something that defies argument the people pushing the nonsense positions have plenty of time to pursue their nefarious schemes that they never talk about in public. It’s just that I really can’t believe that the people who said it would take things like “Saddam was behind 9/11” seriously so it must be a ploy to distract the thinking public from whatever else they are up to. It’s our own fault for getting sucked in again instead of having a good laugh about it and going on. But you feel sorry for the fools that come to believe foolish things like that and out of compassion want to correct their misapprehensions. Grrr - people who dream up ways to take advantage of other people’s trust and good nature should be sent to bed without dessert. One can only hope that just being the kind of person who practices to deceive is their own worst punishment. But sometimes one wishes for something a little more direct and timely - Instant Karma is so entertaining and instructive when it happens.

I think you’re on to something there reason, but how do we stop them is my question. We can’t stop “something that defies argument” with talk or by ignoring it. And yes, most things that get airtime are distractions. I see it as a vicious cycle. Most of our culture is pointless and base, fit for the majority of the populace with the same attributes, which makes them ever more base and pointless. So few people resist their tendancy to split every issue into a false dichotomy. They are simple and want the world to be so. The media outlets sell out. They want ratings, their constitutional obligations to keep the people informed be damned! But can it be helped when the citizens refuse to be informed?

And what’s wrong with tuning out? I prefer Thucydides over Hearst’s History Channel and Veblen over MSNBC and, heck, even Tristram Shandy reveals that life is just as chaotic, so I don’t need an cable subsidiary of GE to tell me that. And, for that matter, what’s wrong with being loony? McGovern mishandled Tommy Eagleton during his campaign, and despite the late Senator’s psychiatric treatment, he died with a record of philanthropy and good works since retiring from the Senate. Up the crazies, I say!

Chrisnp: a birth announcement in a Paper means what? That grandparents were proud their daughter had a Baby?

Which Hawaiian Hospital did Obama’s mother give birth to him in? Who were the attending Physicians, the main Obstetrician? Whether or not he was born in America is one thing; but it’s almost certain he doesn’t have a real American Birth-Certificate.

As far as Dems running a man without a Birth Certificate: Their reactions in handling the issue prove they were un-prepared for the question. Other State and Local Offices aren’t as stringent in their requirements, as I’m sure the Daley Machine, Bob Ayers, and Harvard would attest if only we could see the relevant records - which we can’t :^D

Another thing for sure is that he definitely won’t be a two-termer.

I hope Sarah Palin never goes away. She’s really cute. Not Gracie Allen cute, or smart, but ya know, cute.