Can Conservatives accept the fact that maybe Reagen didn’t mean what he said, maybe he said it because it sounded nice and simple – like his campagin slogan “It’s Morning In America!” – What Reagen did was make Government bigger, but more involed in the things that were important to him, like letting Corporations move offshore, or become owned by foreigners.
Funding for education, veterans, highways, waterways, food stamps, health care for the poor, inspection of food, water, and medicine, were all cut.
There were no tax increase, but the costs of Government went up, and so did the National Debt.
Maybe what he meant to say was: “Government by the GOP is the problem!”
Mr. Varvel, let’s see — Wall St. screwed the entire country, businesses rush to hire illegals so they can pay them less, businesses lay off workers and ship middle-class, blue collar manufacturing jobs overseas, the uber wealthy shift more and more of the costs of government onto the declining middle class and you want us to worry about what government is doing to us?
Government has caused dozens of problems through unintended consequences from its legislation. It then waits for people to forget this key fact and then produces legislation and proclaims itself to be the solution to the problem. Then that legislation yields more unintended consequences, The cycle starts all over again.
Greed in Wall Street screwed the entire country. You say the government should regulate Wall Street to curb the greed. How can Washington curb the greed of Wall Street when Washington can’t curb it’s own greed? That’s like a blind man telling another blind man to look where he is going!
If we got serious about immigration reform by simply insisting that people obey our laws and deporting those who are breaking our laws, there would be no illegals to hire for cheap labor. Problem solved. We have immigration laws for a very good reason…mostly to make sure that the flow of immigrants doesn’t outstep America’s ability to handle them. Those laws are being ignored and places like California and Arizona are already seeing what will be our future if we don’t get a handle on this.
Why are our jobs going overseas? Because it is cheaper to operate overseas than here. We have among the highest business taxes in the world. We have oppresive government regulation. We through our laws have made it easier for business to operate elsewhere…and so they are. They will not be held hostage. If we keep penalizing them, they will leave…and they are.
This tax-the-rich attitude also has the same fault. We keep taxing the rich more and more and penalizing them more and more. They are not hostages….the more hostile we make this country to them the more of them will leave. The top 5% are already pulling 70% of the tax burden as it is…and they’ll start leaving and soon there will be no rich left to tax. What then?
Why are we worried about what the government is doing to us, you ask? Because the government is able to make decisions that have the potential to bring the whole thing crashing down. This government will stop being of the people, by the people and for the people if we are not watching them and making efforts to keep them in line. We have already lost much of our power and we’re slated to lose more.
“This tax-the-rich attitude also has the same fault. We keep taxing the rich more and more and penalizing them more and more. They are not hostages….the more hostile we make this country to them the more of them will leave. The top 5% are already pulling 70% of the tax burden as it is…and they’ll start leaving and soon there will be no rich left to tax. What then?”
David, I find the above statement qutie ironical. Apparently it has already passed from common awareness that before the 1980s, the personal income taxes for the rich were higher than they are now. MUCH higher. The rich, by and large, weren’t nearly as rich as they are now. Yet during much of that period - from the 40s to the early 70s - the US had one of its most impressive economic periods.
It is possible that some rich people will try to live elsewhere. Then again, the low taxes of the early 2000s didn’t stop them doing so either.
wolfhoundblues1 about 14 years ago
There you have it. The two sides of this great debae.
d_legendary1 about 14 years ago
Goes to show that people are starting to make progress, though Obama’s quote is waaaaaay out of context.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Reagan DID prove HIS version of government,” of the corporation, for the corporation, and BY the corporation” WAS and still IS the problem.
oneoldhat about 14 years ago
yes dr c under reagan gov became the problem – maybe you should have elected him to be head of yours
kennethcwarren64 about 14 years ago
Can Conservatives accept the fact that maybe Reagen didn’t mean what he said, maybe he said it because it sounded nice and simple – like his campagin slogan “It’s Morning In America!” – What Reagen did was make Government bigger, but more involed in the things that were important to him, like letting Corporations move offshore, or become owned by foreigners.
Funding for education, veterans, highways, waterways, food stamps, health care for the poor, inspection of food, water, and medicine, were all cut.
There were no tax increase, but the costs of Government went up, and so did the National Debt.
Maybe what he meant to say was: “Government by the GOP is the problem!”
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
I don’t know if government is the solution, but I know corporations aren’t.
believecommonsense about 14 years ago
Mr. Varvel, let’s see — Wall St. screwed the entire country, businesses rush to hire illegals so they can pay them less, businesses lay off workers and ship middle-class, blue collar manufacturing jobs overseas, the uber wealthy shift more and more of the costs of government onto the declining middle class and you want us to worry about what government is doing to us?
halfabug about 14 years ago
in the end reagan did a tremedous job for this country if any one would bother to read about it.
dshepard about 14 years ago
Government has caused dozens of problems through unintended consequences from its legislation. It then waits for people to forget this key fact and then produces legislation and proclaims itself to be the solution to the problem. Then that legislation yields more unintended consequences, The cycle starts all over again.
Greed in Wall Street screwed the entire country. You say the government should regulate Wall Street to curb the greed. How can Washington curb the greed of Wall Street when Washington can’t curb it’s own greed? That’s like a blind man telling another blind man to look where he is going!
If we got serious about immigration reform by simply insisting that people obey our laws and deporting those who are breaking our laws, there would be no illegals to hire for cheap labor. Problem solved. We have immigration laws for a very good reason…mostly to make sure that the flow of immigrants doesn’t outstep America’s ability to handle them. Those laws are being ignored and places like California and Arizona are already seeing what will be our future if we don’t get a handle on this.
Why are our jobs going overseas? Because it is cheaper to operate overseas than here. We have among the highest business taxes in the world. We have oppresive government regulation. We through our laws have made it easier for business to operate elsewhere…and so they are. They will not be held hostage. If we keep penalizing them, they will leave…and they are.
This tax-the-rich attitude also has the same fault. We keep taxing the rich more and more and penalizing them more and more. They are not hostages….the more hostile we make this country to them the more of them will leave. The top 5% are already pulling 70% of the tax burden as it is…and they’ll start leaving and soon there will be no rich left to tax. What then?
Why are we worried about what the government is doing to us, you ask? Because the government is able to make decisions that have the potential to bring the whole thing crashing down. This government will stop being of the people, by the people and for the people if we are not watching them and making efforts to keep them in line. We have already lost much of our power and we’re slated to lose more.
4uk4ata about 14 years ago
“This tax-the-rich attitude also has the same fault. We keep taxing the rich more and more and penalizing them more and more. They are not hostages….the more hostile we make this country to them the more of them will leave. The top 5% are already pulling 70% of the tax burden as it is…and they’ll start leaving and soon there will be no rich left to tax. What then?”
David, I find the above statement qutie ironical. Apparently it has already passed from common awareness that before the 1980s, the personal income taxes for the rich were higher than they are now. MUCH higher. The rich, by and large, weren’t nearly as rich as they are now. Yet during much of that period - from the 40s to the early 70s - the US had one of its most impressive economic periods.
It is possible that some rich people will try to live elsewhere. Then again, the low taxes of the early 2000s didn’t stop them doing so either.
believecommonsense about 14 years ago
Howie, no, not two thumbs down to Varvel, just this toon, or more accurately, just to the message of this toon.