Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for October 19, 2014

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    x_Tech  over 9 years ago

    But isn’t that what everyone does with computers?

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    Dtroutma  over 9 years ago

    If at first you don’t succeed, maybe you should just get out, and stay out?

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    wrwallaceii  over 9 years ago

    Still, wise words…

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    alviebird  over 9 years ago

    The “Reply” feature is not working for me.

    Night-Gaunt49 said,“It is the USA that is adamant about creating problems like in the Middle East. Didn’t learn from the French and British.”

    And the Soviet Union. I believe that fiasco in Afghanistan contributed greatly to their collapse.

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    TMO1 Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Since there’s so much money made by corporations in conducting endless wars like this, I don’t think we’ll ever be free of this syndrome. That, and the public that never learns that they’re being manipulated by the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned them about.

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    Reppr Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Remember when oil hit $100 a barrel and gas shot up to $2.00 a gallon and it was all Cheney’s fault? Oil has stayed around $100 a barrel (fallen below that recently) and gas is still over $3.00 a gallon, dropping from close to $4.00. Of course, that has to be Biden’s fault, right?

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    David P. McLaughlin  over 9 years ago

    When the Sheriff MOVES OUT OF TOWN the bad guys take over.

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    Brass Orchid Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Maybe they are invoking the doctrine of quantum probability, where anything might happen. Or maybe that was Mickey Rourke in Angel Heart.Sorry I didn’t have any colorful propaganda posters.I know how people love things that are highly processed and filled with fat, sugar and salt, and so far removed from real sustenance as to be required to call themselves processed food products rather than food. I would just feel dirty if I were to charge so much for so little, no matter how comfortable such sales would make my own existence.

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    dadoctah  over 9 years ago

    Cheney/Chaney: separated at birth?

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    Hardthought  over 9 years ago

    Oh, ye of little knowledge parroting talking points.Remember, Hillary, Kerry, Reid ET al all were for the war before they were against it.ISIS is a result if just walking away. This administration is the cause.

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    gorbag  over 9 years ago

    @sizeofapea: ISIS is a product of our failed foreign policy in Syria, not Iraq. And yes, you can blame Obama for that.

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    Mugens Premium Member over 9 years ago

    The truth of the matter is that all the current problems in the Middle East started right after WWI, when the British in their infinite wisdom carved up the area and created these fake countries that exist today, that had not been in existence before then. Its been all downhill since that time.

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    Packratjohn Premium Member over 9 years ago

    That’s a lot or reading for so early in the morning, but it was interesting.

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    Packratjohn Premium Member over 9 years ago

    DaDoctah – my REPLY won’t work on your post, but it does on others… odd.

    My rejoinder to you is: No, Chaney was only acting….

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    ekw555  over 9 years ago

    in other news: meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

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    e.groves  over 9 years ago

    Or as bush said, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, uh, uh, we won’t be fooled again”.

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    P51Strega  over 9 years ago

    Mankind is a sad animal. There will always be war in the mideast as there always had been. Remember 50 years of peace in Yugoslavia? how did they celebrate freedom from the Soviets? We never learn.

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    6.6TA  over 9 years ago

    masterskrain: Really nice post. Clear and to the point. I just learned some things. Now, strictly speaking, the “whole mess” is more than the Crusades. I suppose that the crusades then, and a whole series of episodes since then might be an important part, but considerably less than all of a series of conflicts. This train seems to have no beginning and no end.

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    Wiley creator over 9 years ago

    Trying to afix blame for the mess is missing, or an attempt to misdirect, the point.

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    dabugger  over 9 years ago

    What ever those two say, it is more profound than most media.

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    goweeder  over 9 years ago

    Well, finally the truth: We can blame everything, past and present, on the Latin Roman Catholic Church.

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    Say What? Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Worth reading here:http://www.vox.com/cards/things-about-isis-you-need-to-know/what-is-isis

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    Wiley creator over 9 years ago

    Actually, no. The point of practice is to correct something you’re doing wrong or to keep doing something you’ve got right. Therefore, you are either doing something DIFFERENT in order to get a different result or doing the same thing in order to keep the same result.

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    Ppyfss  over 9 years ago

    It’s just like changing jobs…….the only thing that does change is the scenery.

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    BillWa  over 9 years ago

    We won in Iraq until the Socialist in Chief snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory. What was insanity, according to this definition, and it works for the first one is we elected Obama TWICE, knowing he was a socialist. But he gave away free stuff, so who cared.

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    Mokurai  over 9 years ago

    Actually, Einstein never said that. There are just people who wish he had, plus the one who made it up for a Narcotics Anonymous publication, the same as Parson Weems making up the stupid tale about young Washington being stupid enough to chop down a valuable cherry tree. And all of the other pseudo-patriotic liars who think that lying over and over again makes patriotism better.

    I’ll tell you what Einstein did say. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I’m not sure about the universe.”

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    meowlin  over 9 years ago

    I’m replying to SizeofaPea’s comment:Yep. Cheney isn’t Darth Vader. He’s Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine.

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    Argythree  over 9 years ago

    The problems began long before the Crusades. Try the early Greeks, followed by the first Roman empire. The Middle East has been invaded and conquered by so many roving dictatorships that there is no way to recall a time when they were left alone…

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    Kveldulf  over 9 years ago

    First it was “I shall fight to the last drop of my blood!”.Then it was “I shall fight to the last drop of your blood!”.Now it is “I shall fight to the last drop of your oil!”

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    MetalOverCountry  over 9 years ago

    too many words

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    susan.e.a.c  over 9 years ago

    Yah, Obama giving weapons and funds to ISIS in Syria sure helped.

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    Gokie5  over 9 years ago

    Ut-oh, I feel a rant fulminating: I can remember that after the Six-Day War in 1967, in which Israel annexed land including the Gaza strip, the Arabs were made into a laughingstock by a lot of professional and amateur comedians in the US. Many Palestinians were put into what amounted to camps, with little chance for many of them to leave. (Yes, I know that a lot of Arabs wanted to disappear Israel into the sea.) I started reading an English translation of the Koran once, and was struck by how, near the beginning, it started dissing Christians. I also note that in some Jewish festivals, like Purim, there appears to be quite a bit of gloating over the misfortunes of others. My humble opinion is that all this behavior is like the behavior of kindergartners. I believe that even in kindergarten, we’re taught not to say, “Mine is bigger and better than yours.” Maybe if we (including me) could put more of a loving spirit into our relationship with all peoples, not just our own tribe, things would go better.

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    katina.cooper  over 9 years ago

    It’s not the insanity. It’s the money. Oh, wait. I guess they’re the same thing.

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    Daniel Quilp  over 9 years ago

    You have a profound knowledge of the Crusades. A good source for others is the book, “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” by Charles Mackay, published in 1841. It is available for free download: www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/dvi.html

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    renewed1  over 9 years ago

    Let’s not forget that when Bush “led us into war” that the congress voted to authorize both wars AND voted to authorize enhanced interrogation techniques. He also made available to those same members of congress all intelligence available. If some in congress choose to forget their own vote, there is no excuse for the rest of us to.

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    Brass Orchid Premium Member over 9 years ago

    “Actually, the roots of the ENTIRE mess go all the way back to The Crusades!”…The roots of the problem go back to the creation of mankind. Even I, in my most delusional and dyspeptic moments, cannot blame the existence of humanity on any sitting or former President. And I am exceptionally delusional and dyspeptic!

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    Wiley creator over 9 years ago

    Redkaycei-One practices to repeat the muscle memory in order to keep doing something right, NOT to expect a different outcome. You are actually validating the accuracy of Einstein’s quote, not refuting it.

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    CougarAllen  over 9 years ago

    This is what Bush had to say about it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

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    alviebird  over 9 years ago

    I miss practice one day, and I notice it.I miss practice two days, and my band notices it.I miss practice three days, and the audience notices it.

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    lindz.coop Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Because you can never have enough War!!

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    Say What? Premium Member over 9 years ago

    @BrassOrchid That could be said about either candidate. Elections seem to boil down to who would hurt the public less.

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    Mommyhalls  over 9 years ago

    Insanity is expecting a different result. If you expect sameness, and plan for sameness, you are not insane. You have embraced reality.

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    bulwynkl  over 9 years ago

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_Einstein#The_thinking_that_got_us_into_this_mess

    “The thinking it took to get us into this mess is not the same thinking that is going to get us out of it.”

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