I guess the tuition must have bee $200 per semester in 2007 and the President must have raised them by executive order in 2008. Clearly this guy either didn’t attend or was sleeping a lot.
Following the logic that anything that happens during Obama’s administration is clearly his fault, I suppose he is also responsible for climate change and supernovas.
The average college graduate pays about $5800 more a year in federal taxes than the average high school graduate. Over 30 years, that totals about $172,000. If that’s divided by the 4 years it takes to get a college education, the government would break even if it paid every student $42,000 a year to attend school.This doesn’t even consider that with the degree, the person is less likely to ever need unemployment or welfare, that more students would complete high school if they could see a clear way to a really good job, and that they would be enriching the Social Security and Medicare funds. They would also be paying a larger amount in all other types of taxes. And they would be buying more products which would boost the economy, and put more people to work at jobs that require all different levels of education.The best investment we could make to keep America strong is to not just forgive all student loans but to make all higher education, as long as the student is making decent grades, totally free, and increase the number of schools and teachers to make room for all who can profit from the education.We don’t, even at a time of high unemployment, have so much a lack of jobs as we have a lack of people who have the skills to perform the jobs that are available- in other words, a lack of education.
A blogger said one time that older people couldn’t understand why young people are angry.
When I graduated high school in 1962, my husband and I bought a house and two cars. He had a job with only a high school education that paid for it. Most of the men I graduated with did. I didn’t work, most women didn’t. And, those that did actually did choose to work. Most women now don’t actually have that choice unless they want to live in poverty.When we chose to go to college in 1965, tuition at SIU Edwardsville was $79 a quarter and we rented whatever books we needed for $20 a quarter. Anyone could go to college with a part time job.So do I not understand why young people are angry? No, what I don’t understand is why they aren’t rioting.
The idea of state universities was to enable students of merit with slender means to get a higher education. The deal at the institution I live near was this: the state will pay 40% of the college’s expenses, in return, 70% of the students admitted must be in-state students charged artificially low tuition rates. In the last 30 years, largely under conservative influence, the percentage of the costs of the college paid by the state has fallen to about 5%. The difference could be made up by admitting all students at full tuition rates, but the state won’t permit that for in-state students, nor will it permit more out-of-state students to be admitted. No will it permit the college to go private, because the state owns the campus and would demand many millions to sell the college its own campus. Even if the state would consider it, which they would not. So the university is caught in the middle. Faculty and staff salaries are lower than in comparable institutions elsewhere, and every department is understaffed and overworked. Fortunately the quality of life in the region is pretty good and people don’t want to leave, but it is ever more difficult to hire the best people, although the present lousy job market helps; if hiring ever become more competitive again, this problem will get worse. Eventually the quality of the education will begin to suffer, and a premier institution of learning will go into decline. We have to make up our minds whether it is in the interest of us all that qualified students be able to complete their educations, or whether this ought to be every-man-for-himself deal. The costs of a college education HAVE risen, partly because colleges are expected to do more than they once did, partly because of technology, there are many reasons in fact, and somebody has to pay the freight. Michael wme talks about a four-year education at the U of TX costing in 1970 a total of $1600 in tuition fees. Add the cost of books, and so forth, maybe $3000. (The books alone can cost that much now, for some majors. That $3000 is equivalent to $18,000 today adjusted for inflation.) The reason those tuitions were so low was because in-state students were paid for mostly by the taxpayers; we took pride in providing for all our able students together then. Nowadays however “me” and “mine” replaces “we” and “ours”.
He did, but about ten years later, dad’s job was shipped to India. Dad looked for a job for over two years, eventually delivering pizza at minimum wage. Meanwhile, he still had his mortgage to pay, plus rising insurance premiums, rising energy costs. Soon, he had to dip into that “fund”! It serves him right! He should have voted Republican!!
“, Many College Grads land in the Top 1% Wage earners”—- yup, 99% of them land in the 1% bracket. In order to keep it at 1%, the newbies secretly hunt down the old 1%’s and eliminate them
I can remember when education through high school was free in California. After that, if you made the grades, it continued to be free through a PhD. That state produced more science Nobel laureates than the rest of the world. Who changed that? That veteran of Fort Roach, Ronald Reagan.
Parent(s) who find themselves in low-paying jobs through no fault of their own canNOT put any money aside for college when they often don’t have money for enough food to go around once the rent, utilities, etc. are paid. Wake up. ;)
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member almost 10 years ago
I guess the tuition must have bee $200 per semester in 2007 and the President must have raised them by executive order in 2008. Clearly this guy either didn’t attend or was sleeping a lot.
Simon_Jester almost 10 years ago
According to the very first line of that article you posted, the cause of this problem was Tuition DEREGULATION.
You know, deregulation….that thing you and every other conservative has been DEMANDING for the past 20 years.
LOL, the hypocrisy of right-wingers never ceases to amaze me
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Following the logic that anything that happens during Obama’s administration is clearly his fault, I suppose he is also responsible for climate change and supernovas.
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 10 years ago
A blogger said one time that older people couldn’t understand why young people are angry.
When I graduated high school in 1962, my husband and I bought a house and two cars. He had a job with only a high school education that paid for it. Most of the men I graduated with did. I didn’t work, most women didn’t. And, those that did actually did choose to work. Most women now don’t actually have that choice unless they want to live in poverty.When we chose to go to college in 1965, tuition at SIU Edwardsville was $79 a quarter and we rented whatever books we needed for $20 a quarter. Anyone could go to college with a part time job.So do I not understand why young people are angry? No, what I don’t understand is why they aren’t rioting.Kip W almost 10 years ago
“Many”? Gee, this supposition certainly refutes something or other.
(Is there a secret message in the inappropriately capitalized word?)
Doughfoot almost 10 years ago
The idea of state universities was to enable students of merit with slender means to get a higher education. The deal at the institution I live near was this: the state will pay 40% of the college’s expenses, in return, 70% of the students admitted must be in-state students charged artificially low tuition rates. In the last 30 years, largely under conservative influence, the percentage of the costs of the college paid by the state has fallen to about 5%. The difference could be made up by admitting all students at full tuition rates, but the state won’t permit that for in-state students, nor will it permit more out-of-state students to be admitted. No will it permit the college to go private, because the state owns the campus and would demand many millions to sell the college its own campus. Even if the state would consider it, which they would not. So the university is caught in the middle. Faculty and staff salaries are lower than in comparable institutions elsewhere, and every department is understaffed and overworked. Fortunately the quality of life in the region is pretty good and people don’t want to leave, but it is ever more difficult to hire the best people, although the present lousy job market helps; if hiring ever become more competitive again, this problem will get worse. Eventually the quality of the education will begin to suffer, and a premier institution of learning will go into decline. We have to make up our minds whether it is in the interest of us all that qualified students be able to complete their educations, or whether this ought to be every-man-for-himself deal. The costs of a college education HAVE risen, partly because colleges are expected to do more than they once did, partly because of technology, there are many reasons in fact, and somebody has to pay the freight. Michael wme talks about a four-year education at the U of TX costing in 1970 a total of $1600 in tuition fees. Add the cost of books, and so forth, maybe $3000. (The books alone can cost that much now, for some majors. That $3000 is equivalent to $18,000 today adjusted for inflation.) The reason those tuitions were so low was because in-state students were paid for mostly by the taxpayers; we took pride in providing for all our able students together then. Nowadays however “me” and “mine” replaces “we” and “ours”.
moosemin almost 10 years ago
“Had parents set up a college fund…”
He did, but about ten years later, dad’s job was shipped to India. Dad looked for a job for over two years, eventually delivering pizza at minimum wage. Meanwhile, he still had his mortgage to pay, plus rising insurance premiums, rising energy costs. Soon, he had to dip into that “fund”! It serves him right! He should have voted Republican!!
lopaka almost 10 years ago
“, Many College Grads land in the Top 1% Wage earners”—- yup, 99% of them land in the 1% bracket. In order to keep it at 1%, the newbies secretly hunt down the old 1%’s and eliminate them
hippogriff almost 10 years ago
I can remember when education through high school was free in California. After that, if you made the grades, it continued to be free through a PhD. That state produced more science Nobel laureates than the rest of the world. Who changed that? That veteran of Fort Roach, Ronald Reagan.
ORMouseworks almost 10 years ago
Parent(s) who find themselves in low-paying jobs through no fault of their own canNOT put any money aside for college when they often don’t have money for enough food to go around once the rent, utilities, etc. are paid. Wake up. ;)