Barack Obama: We're giving money to banks so they'll loosen credit so businesses can borrow so they can hire so consumers will have money to donate to charities who'll spend 15% of it on food and water for you.
The scenario in the cartoon sounds logical, but it breaks down. After the government is finished with their plans, nobody will have 15% to spend on charity. We will be the charity cases.
Rall is right. When the red cross collected half a billion from donations for 9/11 victims a big portion of that went to making the organization bigger and for “future plans”.
The 15% refers to the portion of your donation some of the less-reputable ‘charities’ pass on to those in need. That’s a maximum for some of them. I know because I worked for donation solicitors once.
It might have been nothing more momentous than the result of a coin toss, but I think it’s significant that they called the relief fund “clintonbush” rather than “bushclinton.” What does that say about the subconscious level of trust they are trying to convey to the average contributor?
Simply put, the name Clinton connotes a greater association with charitable enterprises than does Bush, because of the Clinton Foundation’s well-documented track record in this area – for better or worse. But since Bush comes first alphabetically, all other factors being equal, I would have expected the reverse order.
Somehow I don’t think I trust Clinton or Bush. Even so, really it just sickens me that Mr. Clinton would associate with W at all. I guess we could pretend that their lies were equivalent, but I don’t remember millions dying because of Bill’s. It is kind of cute to see W still pretending like he was ever a legitimate president. Then the bitterness returns once it dawns on me that W apparently wants to rescue some civilians whilst bombing others.
There’s money to be made in reconstruction. If you think the U.S. is invading and occupying Haiti now, wait until you see the contractors invade. New building codes will be implemented and it will cost much more to build than it did before the quake. I suspect U.S. banks will be the first to move in…as soon as their new desks arrive.
Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world largely as a result of US policies. Deposing a democratically elected leader twice in the last 20 years is just the tip of the iceberg. Of course, the huge US military presence in Haiti along with the fifth largest US embassy in the world could never have anything to do with minerals, oil or a deep water port capable of handling supertankers.
Most Americans think our government gives way too much foreign aid. But the numbers show that the U.S. gives less money per capita or as a percentage of GDP than almost all other developed countries.
Haiti? Silly me! I thought it was Eureka, California!
as the banks are NOT loaning any money out, the farmers can not get fertilizer nor seed, prepare for food riots amerika.
the banks are using “dark markets” to make $$ w/tarp funds…
er, main street, the banks are screwing you, NOW!
the chambermaids of commerce are protecting defending the banks, NOT you!
i swear, I thought this was about the Uknighted states.
I cleaned my glasses, AHHH,
now i see the 2nd driveby robbery of the nations pensions/401k funds, and the start is at levels of last years crash( ‘09 march levels reached again in stock/bonds markets).
as poverty hits these uknighted states again, i wonder if the FRB can be audited. jus where did the $$ go?
Giving money to a wealthy person and assuming he’ll give it to the poor is like giving a ten dollar bill to a cocaine addict and assuming he’ll use it for food.
We’re all more or less addicted to possessions. We want more stuff even if we don’t need it.
Gangsteroflove about 14 years ago
So now we have to support and rebuild Haiti in addition to Afganistan and Iraq?
GringoRegio about 14 years ago
totally unfair… the US is currently the goverment giving the most aid… Teddy.. did Obama turn you down for a job or something?
Gangsteroflove about 14 years ago
The scenario in the cartoon sounds logical, but it breaks down. After the government is finished with their plans, nobody will have 15% to spend on charity. We will be the charity cases.
mattro65 about 14 years ago
Is the US aiding Haiti or invading it?
d_legendary1 about 14 years ago
Rall is right. When the red cross collected half a billion from donations for 9/11 victims a big portion of that went to making the organization bigger and for “future plans”.
http://tinyurl.com/9hsoc
Frodo59 about 14 years ago
The 15% refers to the portion of your donation some of the less-reputable ‘charities’ pass on to those in need. That’s a maximum for some of them. I know because I worked for donation solicitors once.
JerryGorton about 14 years ago
Yeah, I don’t trust the Red Cross either. I prefer: www.clintonbushhaitifund.org/
sirrom567 about 14 years ago
It might have been nothing more momentous than the result of a coin toss, but I think it’s significant that they called the relief fund “clintonbush” rather than “bushclinton.” What does that say about the subconscious level of trust they are trying to convey to the average contributor?
wjlott about 14 years ago
Trickle Down!
bradwilliams about 14 years ago
Clinton likes Bush? Chases it?
sirrom567 about 14 years ago
Simply put, the name Clinton connotes a greater association with charitable enterprises than does Bush, because of the Clinton Foundation’s well-documented track record in this area – for better or worse. But since Bush comes first alphabetically, all other factors being equal, I would have expected the reverse order.
Lavocat about 14 years ago
Now THAT is funny, right there!
Oddly, I suspect that they will greatly simplify things once it comes to asking for donations to political campaigns.
Just a hunch.
Yes We Can(‘t)!
HARVIN about 14 years ago
Something like that.
RationalEmpiricist about 14 years ago
Well put, Mr. Rall.
Somehow I don’t think I trust Clinton or Bush. Even so, really it just sickens me that Mr. Clinton would associate with W at all. I guess we could pretend that their lies were equivalent, but I don’t remember millions dying because of Bill’s. It is kind of cute to see W still pretending like he was ever a legitimate president. Then the bitterness returns once it dawns on me that W apparently wants to rescue some civilians whilst bombing others.
d_legendary1 about 14 years ago
<==========^I love it when another prime ape talks dirty!
Lt_Lanier about 14 years ago
Bush also raised 350 million for Indonesian relief several years ago, I’d say he’s a major fundy.
kreole about 14 years ago
There’s money to be made in reconstruction. If you think the U.S. is invading and occupying Haiti now, wait until you see the contractors invade. New building codes will be implemented and it will cost much more to build than it did before the quake. I suspect U.S. banks will be the first to move in…as soon as their new desks arrive.
audieholland about 14 years ago
No, not neccessarily a bad thing. The Haitians will have homes, food, water and clothing again.
Of course the Haitians will from then on be wholly owned by the US banks. Perhaps the US will even build a few FEMA camps over there!
mattro65 about 14 years ago
Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world largely as a result of US policies. Deposing a democratically elected leader twice in the last 20 years is just the tip of the iceberg. Of course, the huge US military presence in Haiti along with the fifth largest US embassy in the world could never have anything to do with minerals, oil or a deep water port capable of handling supertankers.
kanjizai about 14 years ago
Most Americans think our government gives way too much foreign aid. But the numbers show that the U.S. gives less money per capita or as a percentage of GDP than almost all other developed countries.
jaxaction about 14 years ago
Haiti? Silly me! I thought it was Eureka, California!
as the banks are NOT loaning any money out, the farmers can not get fertilizer nor seed, prepare for food riots amerika. the banks are using “dark markets” to make $$ w/tarp funds… er, main street, the banks are screwing you, NOW! the chambermaids of commerce are protecting defending the banks, NOT you! i swear, I thought this was about the Uknighted states.
mhenriday about 14 years ago
NeoconMan, if I had any money to invest, I’d invest with you. People like Bernard Lawrence Madoff are so pedestrian by comparison….
Henri
jaxaction about 14 years ago
I cleaned my glasses, AHHH, now i see the 2nd driveby robbery of the nations pensions/401k funds, and the start is at levels of last years crash( ‘09 march levels reached again in stock/bonds markets). as poverty hits these uknighted states again, i wonder if the FRB can be audited. jus where did the $$ go?
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
The problem with trickle down economics;
Giving money to a wealthy person and assuming he’ll give it to the poor is like giving a ten dollar bill to a cocaine addict and assuming he’ll use it for food.
We’re all more or less addicted to possessions. We want more stuff even if we don’t need it.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Actually the toon is a photo in east Los Angeles.
Lt_Lanier about 14 years ago
2004, fennec, baby, the Indonesian tsunami.