That is just sick. You can’t use a natural disaster that destroyed an entire country and killed thousands to ask a question about a television anchor choice.
I’d say it sums up every disaster I’ve ever seen these folks at. Had a reporter in ‘Nam once ask me how it felt to recover my dead friends’ bodies. When he came to after surgery to repair his jaw, he understood.
I later ran into many of the same types back here in the states over the years. When helping pull victims from a train derailment, a local “news person” did this same basic thing. The best thing the “big desk folks” can do, is STAY HOME!
<==========^You mean like when I told the media outlets to stop airing the caskets of American dead soldiers from Iraq? That sort of free press I likes.
church, then you’ve forgotten about the Bush administration banning photos of returning coffins, even those draped with the flag. You’ve also forgotten about the Bush administration charging ABC’s Ted Koppel with being un-American and a traitor for airing a Nightline special that honored the dead in Iraq by displaying their photos in uniform and reading their names. No commentary by Koppel or anyone and the families gave ABC the photos, so obviously they didn’t think it was un-American. Bush and his cronies started a boycott and the right-wing owned TV stations refused to air the program.
I believe conservatives have a much longer history of trying to curtail the free press.
church wrote: BCS: 1) The barring of photos of returning caskets was begun in Dec. 1989 and continued throughout the Clinton administration.
Incorrect. The Dept of Defense prohibited photos/film of returning of dead soldiers in 1991, under Bush 41, during Gulf War One.
Clinton relaxed the ban and his administration allowed photos of returning coffins from the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, bombings of embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, among others. (We weren’t at war, remember?)
The strict prohibition against photos of returning coffins was reinstituted by Bush 43 in Nov. 2001.
2) ABC was just trying to agitate American’s to be anti war.
First, I noticed you just ignore the facts, as always. The families of the dead released their photos. Guess they didn’t consider it “anti-war”
When we reach the point in this country that honoring and recognizing the human treasure lost in war is considered “agitation” and “anti-war,” we will become the evil we fight. That’s how dictators in North Korea and other places operate. Guess we know who you think like.
church, guess what? The information I wrote comes from your link too. Including the DOD ban in 1991 under Bush 41. I will look up info on Somalia, Bosnia and Kosovo when time allows. If you have specific link, please share it, save me some time.
I can’t answer your last question. My guess is no, after what happened to ABC/nightline/Koppel, they probably won’t repeat that kind of program. And I notice you fail to explain how the simple showing of photos of men and women in their military portraits, and reading their names is somehow un-American and anti-war. You also ignore that the families provided the photos, so was OK with them.
I repeat: Bush’s response was similar to that of a dictator, not a president of the US. We should never, never forget what wars cost us in human treasure.
talbert11 over 14 years ago
That is just sick. You can’t use a natural disaster that destroyed an entire country and killed thousands to ask a question about a television anchor choice.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
I’d say it sums up every disaster I’ve ever seen these folks at. Had a reporter in ‘Nam once ask me how it felt to recover my dead friends’ bodies. When he came to after surgery to repair his jaw, he understood.
I later ran into many of the same types back here in the states over the years. When helping pull victims from a train derailment, a local “news person” did this same basic thing. The best thing the “big desk folks” can do, is STAY HOME!
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
Except for Sanjay Gupta (sp??) of CNN. I’ve appreciated his reporting, and he’s also giving medical care and helping personally.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
Thanks for punching that Guy in the mouth dtroutma. Reporters ask some of the dumbest questions.
“How does it feel like being buried under that rubble?”
This was on this mornings today program during their piece on Haiti.
parkersinthehouse over 14 years ago
for some reason i didn’t expect the nyt to show a picture of one of the humans who was killed.
news has gradually changed so much over the years and has become inhumane
but which offense came first the reader demanding the gory details or the writer exploiting his findings
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
<==========^You mean like when I told the media outlets to stop airing the caskets of American dead soldiers from Iraq? That sort of free press I likes.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
church, then you’ve forgotten about the Bush administration banning photos of returning coffins, even those draped with the flag. You’ve also forgotten about the Bush administration charging ABC’s Ted Koppel with being un-American and a traitor for airing a Nightline special that honored the dead in Iraq by displaying their photos in uniform and reading their names. No commentary by Koppel or anyone and the families gave ABC the photos, so obviously they didn’t think it was un-American. Bush and his cronies started a boycott and the right-wing owned TV stations refused to air the program.
I believe conservatives have a much longer history of trying to curtail the free press.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
church wrote: BCS: 1) The barring of photos of returning caskets was begun in Dec. 1989 and continued throughout the Clinton administration.
Incorrect. The Dept of Defense prohibited photos/film of returning of dead soldiers in 1991, under Bush 41, during Gulf War One.
Clinton relaxed the ban and his administration allowed photos of returning coffins from the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, bombings of embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, among others. (We weren’t at war, remember?)
The strict prohibition against photos of returning coffins was reinstituted by Bush 43 in Nov. 2001.
2) ABC was just trying to agitate American’s to be anti war.
First, I noticed you just ignore the facts, as always. The families of the dead released their photos. Guess they didn’t consider it “anti-war”
When we reach the point in this country that honoring and recognizing the human treasure lost in war is considered “agitation” and “anti-war,” we will become the evil we fight. That’s how dictators in North Korea and other places operate. Guess we know who you think like.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
church, guess what? The information I wrote comes from your link too. Including the DOD ban in 1991 under Bush 41. I will look up info on Somalia, Bosnia and Kosovo when time allows. If you have specific link, please share it, save me some time.
I can’t answer your last question. My guess is no, after what happened to ABC/nightline/Koppel, they probably won’t repeat that kind of program. And I notice you fail to explain how the simple showing of photos of men and women in their military portraits, and reading their names is somehow un-American and anti-war. You also ignore that the families provided the photos, so was OK with them.
I repeat: Bush’s response was similar to that of a dictator, not a president of the US. We should never, never forget what wars cost us in human treasure.