“They are people. No one is ignoring them. The fact is that they BROKE THE LAW TO COME INTO OUR NATION. That is a criminal act that will be rewarded. And then they can bring in others.”They are rewarded, perhaps even encouraged, by those sleazy companies who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Those companies are also breaking the law. Seek out and punish those companies. If no one hires illegal immigrants, they can’t make money to send home, and will eventually stop coming. It’s supply and demand. As long as there’s a demand, there will be a supply. End the demand and the supply will eventually dry up.
What are you going to do, lock up or deport 12 million people. They came here to make a better life for their families. Many have been here for years and work hard contributing to our society. While I wouldn’t grant outright amnesty, we do need to provide a reasonable path to citizenship. It is just plain stupid to put our head in the sand and ignore this problem. It is easily fixable if our congressmen do what they were sent to Washington to do.
Do we really need a group of people who:.Have an average education of less than 8th grade with almost half being below 6th grade?.That is nearly two thirds male?.That on average have been arrested for various reasons 7 times?.That have more serious health issues than the legal population?.That go to prison at double the rate of the legal population?.All we seem to hear about are the few exceptions that actually are worth something when it comes to the criminal entrant population. Few stories are published about how they flood our prisons, commit mass amounts of crime, are marginally employable, and generally not very desirable as immigrants, assuming they even want to do so.Seems to me that until border security is tightened up, employer sanctions are enforced, and in general enforcement of immigration laws upheld we shouldn’t even be discussing any sort of normalization or legalization of this very marginal and mostly worthless group of people.
Even the conservative posters here note that SOMETHING needs to be done. And the Republicans are doing NOTHING, plan to do nothing, announce their plans to do nothing, and blame Obama. If they think this will buy them votes in November, they are seriously mistaken.
One of the many two-faced showings of the Republicans is Mr. McCain’s campaign slogan: Country First. If that were truly the case, they would be doing something, whether I would agree with that something or not….they would at least be doing something. Words are easy. Deeds, not so much.
At $147K per year each, plus bennies, generous retirement, and bonuses, legislators who do nothing are demonstrable examples of government waste and fraud.
Immigration Reform is the biggest joke of an “issue” created by the Democrats.I don’t think there’s a problem at all except for the fact that we haven’t really secured the border or deported enough.As for the Illegals already here, just deport them if they do anything wrong, but otherwise they can keep picking our fruit and doing other labor Americans won’t. They’re happy because $4 an hours is twice as much as they’d get back at home and we’re happy because our food and (other services like gardeners) remain cheap.What’s the problem?
The Democrats are not in control. The Republicans control the House, and they have (over)used the rules governing filibusters so that every law in the Senate needs 60 votes to pass, rather than 51. Therefore, the Republicans control the Senate as well.
Since the Republicans vote as a bloc in almost every instance since 2008, really the Congress is controlled by a very few Republicans. All the rest of them have to do is to vote the way they’re told, and they do.
The old-fashioned, old-time, and very definitely OLD days, it was the Republican owners of huge farms and orchards that deliberately (and knowingly) brought in huge numbers of illegals (in addition to other, legal migrant farmers) to work their fields and to make their money for them. Just saying……..
Are these workers rounded up off the street and forced to work these jobs?If you’re such a bleeding heart liberal, why don’t you hand out lunches to them Parnelli Jones?
Jason Allen about 10 years ago
“They are people. No one is ignoring them. The fact is that they BROKE THE LAW TO COME INTO OUR NATION. That is a criminal act that will be rewarded. And then they can bring in others.”They are rewarded, perhaps even encouraged, by those sleazy companies who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Those companies are also breaking the law. Seek out and punish those companies. If no one hires illegal immigrants, they can’t make money to send home, and will eventually stop coming. It’s supply and demand. As long as there’s a demand, there will be a supply. End the demand and the supply will eventually dry up.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member about 10 years ago
What are you going to do, lock up or deport 12 million people. They came here to make a better life for their families. Many have been here for years and work hard contributing to our society. While I wouldn’t grant outright amnesty, we do need to provide a reasonable path to citizenship. It is just plain stupid to put our head in the sand and ignore this problem. It is easily fixable if our congressmen do what they were sent to Washington to do.
Enoki about 10 years ago
Do we really need a group of people who:.Have an average education of less than 8th grade with almost half being below 6th grade?.That is nearly two thirds male?.That on average have been arrested for various reasons 7 times?.That have more serious health issues than the legal population?.That go to prison at double the rate of the legal population?.All we seem to hear about are the few exceptions that actually are worth something when it comes to the criminal entrant population. Few stories are published about how they flood our prisons, commit mass amounts of crime, are marginally employable, and generally not very desirable as immigrants, assuming they even want to do so.Seems to me that until border security is tightened up, employer sanctions are enforced, and in general enforcement of immigration laws upheld we shouldn’t even be discussing any sort of normalization or legalization of this very marginal and mostly worthless group of people.
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
Even the conservative posters here note that SOMETHING needs to be done. And the Republicans are doing NOTHING, plan to do nothing, announce their plans to do nothing, and blame Obama. If they think this will buy them votes in November, they are seriously mistaken.
One of the many two-faced showings of the Republicans is Mr. McCain’s campaign slogan: Country First. If that were truly the case, they would be doing something, whether I would agree with that something or not….they would at least be doing something. Words are easy. Deeds, not so much.
At $147K per year each, plus bennies, generous retirement, and bonuses, legislators who do nothing are demonstrable examples of government waste and fraud.
ConserveGov about 10 years ago
Immigration Reform is the biggest joke of an “issue” created by the Democrats.I don’t think there’s a problem at all except for the fact that we haven’t really secured the border or deported enough.As for the Illegals already here, just deport them if they do anything wrong, but otherwise they can keep picking our fruit and doing other labor Americans won’t. They’re happy because $4 an hours is twice as much as they’d get back at home and we’re happy because our food and (other services like gardeners) remain cheap.What’s the problem?
BrianCrook about 10 years ago
Almost all Americans are the descendants of people who came to this country without documentation.
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
The Democrats are not in control. The Republicans control the House, and they have (over)used the rules governing filibusters so that every law in the Senate needs 60 votes to pass, rather than 51. Therefore, the Republicans control the Senate as well.
Since the Republicans vote as a bloc in almost every instance since 2008, really the Congress is controlled by a very few Republicans. All the rest of them have to do is to vote the way they’re told, and they do.
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
And what makes you think anyone listens to me?
Godfreydaniel about 10 years ago
The old-fashioned, old-time, and very definitely OLD days, it was the Republican owners of huge farms and orchards that deliberately (and knowingly) brought in huge numbers of illegals (in addition to other, legal migrant farmers) to work their fields and to make their money for them. Just saying……..
bernardgarner about 10 years ago
I bet most of the people who are exploiting them are Republicans who would have to pay them more if they found a pathway to citizenship.
ConserveGov about 10 years ago
Are these workers rounded up off the street and forced to work these jobs?If you’re such a bleeding heart liberal, why don’t you hand out lunches to them Parnelli Jones?