Duckie’s supporters forget, it’s our First Amendment right to object to bigotry, ignorance and hatred being expressed. He’s free to express it all he wants and I am free to protest his opinion all I want.
I don’t watch reality TV but I don’t think he said no gays, just that it was a sin. I’m agnostic but I know the Bible doesn’t mince any words about homosexuality, it says homosexuality is an abomination.
The guy was allowed back on his show, yes. However, he and his ilk are on the loosing side of history. More and more states are giving equal rights to the LBGT community. Deal with it.
Two things.1. He’s a redneck. No one should have been surprised by his statements..2. He’s a redneck. He’ll probably break bread with any gay person who isn’t acting like a flamboyant fool.
“The Declaration of Independence, particularly the second paragraph, may help you understand that rights are not given by the state.”Really? Because it’s been pretty good at denying rights to some of us.
When I was young, oh so many years ago, I thought that homosexuality was an illness. Not a sin, but an illness. Anyone remember Walter Jenkins? He worked for Lyndon Johnson, and he got caught picking up some guy at the local YMCA, and he had to quit. It was quite the scandal for a few weeks. Johnson stuck up for him, and when the dust settled gave him a job back in Texas. I remember that my parents felt sorry for Jenkins, but they assumed that he had some kind of psychological problem. So that’s how I grew up, thinking that homosexuality was an illness.+Then when I was in my teens I met some people who were gay. (I’m sure I knew people who were gay before then, but they didn’t say so in those days.) The first openly gay person I knew pretty well was Paul Goodman, who wrote “Growing Up Absurd”. Paul was a pretty complicated fellow, but there was no way I could say that he was ill. He tried to put the moves on me, and I said no. I admired him a lot, and I still do. The next openly gay person I met was Barbara Demming, who was an important person in pacifist circles. I didn’t know her all that well, not nearly as well as I knew Paul, but she was most impressive. Smart as could be, and fearless. I began to wonder — if homosexuality is an illness, how are these people ill? Paul Goodman, ill??? Barbara Demming, ill? On the other hand, I knew a lot of heterosexual people who had pretty messed up sex lives. It became harder and harder for me to believe that the people I knew who were gay were any more ill than the people I knew who were straight.+All this was back in the late sixties, before I was twenty. Since then, I’ve hung out in circles where nobody cares very much about these things — left political circles, artistic circles of various sorts, and the academic world. Times change and people change. If somebody thinks that homosexuality is a sin, well, there was a time I thought it was an illness. I grew up and learned some things, and it looks like our society is growing up (in this way at least) and is learning some things. I hope that this fellow Phil Robertson has a chance in his life to grow up and learn some things, too.
“what “right” are you talking about?”The right to marry the unmarried consenting adult of my choosing. Interracial couples won that right 50 years ago.
“80% of states passed laws AGAINST sam sex marriage. They are beng kile in the courts – not at the ballot box.”As were the “separate but equal” laws that discriminated against blacks. Equality is equality regardless of how it was enabled.
“The almighty dollar is more powerful than the LBGT community, deal with it.”My point went right over your head, didn’t it? The Duck Dynasty person and those who share his anti-gay views are ultimately on the loosing side of history because more and more average citizens understand that the LGBT community deserve the same rights as everyone else. The tipping point has already past. I’ve obtained marital equality in my state 6 months ago. More and more states follow suit every day.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 10 years ago
Duckie’s supporters forget, it’s our First Amendment right to object to bigotry, ignorance and hatred being expressed. He’s free to express it all he wants and I am free to protest his opinion all I want.
It’s called a dialog.
jonesb over 10 years ago
I don’t watch reality TV but I don’t think he said no gays, just that it was a sin. I’m agnostic but I know the Bible doesn’t mince any words about homosexuality, it says homosexuality is an abomination.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
The guy was allowed back on his show, yes. However, he and his ilk are on the loosing side of history. More and more states are giving equal rights to the LBGT community. Deal with it.
tengu99 over 10 years ago
Two things.1. He’s a redneck. No one should have been surprised by his statements..2. He’s a redneck. He’ll probably break bread with any gay person who isn’t acting like a flamboyant fool.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 10 years ago
Wow. “Homos” really? And you wonder why people get upset?
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“The Declaration of Independence, particularly the second paragraph, may help you understand that rights are not given by the state.”Really? Because it’s been pretty good at denying rights to some of us.
lonecat over 10 years ago
When I was young, oh so many years ago, I thought that homosexuality was an illness. Not a sin, but an illness. Anyone remember Walter Jenkins? He worked for Lyndon Johnson, and he got caught picking up some guy at the local YMCA, and he had to quit. It was quite the scandal for a few weeks. Johnson stuck up for him, and when the dust settled gave him a job back in Texas. I remember that my parents felt sorry for Jenkins, but they assumed that he had some kind of psychological problem. So that’s how I grew up, thinking that homosexuality was an illness.+Then when I was in my teens I met some people who were gay. (I’m sure I knew people who were gay before then, but they didn’t say so in those days.) The first openly gay person I knew pretty well was Paul Goodman, who wrote “Growing Up Absurd”. Paul was a pretty complicated fellow, but there was no way I could say that he was ill. He tried to put the moves on me, and I said no. I admired him a lot, and I still do. The next openly gay person I met was Barbara Demming, who was an important person in pacifist circles. I didn’t know her all that well, not nearly as well as I knew Paul, but she was most impressive. Smart as could be, and fearless. I began to wonder — if homosexuality is an illness, how are these people ill? Paul Goodman, ill??? Barbara Demming, ill? On the other hand, I knew a lot of heterosexual people who had pretty messed up sex lives. It became harder and harder for me to believe that the people I knew who were gay were any more ill than the people I knew who were straight.+All this was back in the late sixties, before I was twenty. Since then, I’ve hung out in circles where nobody cares very much about these things — left political circles, artistic circles of various sorts, and the academic world. Times change and people change. If somebody thinks that homosexuality is a sin, well, there was a time I thought it was an illness. I grew up and learned some things, and it looks like our society is growing up (in this way at least) and is learning some things. I hope that this fellow Phil Robertson has a chance in his life to grow up and learn some things, too.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“what “right” are you talking about?”The right to marry the unmarried consenting adult of my choosing. Interracial couples won that right 50 years ago.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“80% of states passed laws AGAINST sam sex marriage. They are beng kile in the courts – not at the ballot box.”As were the “separate but equal” laws that discriminated against blacks. Equality is equality regardless of how it was enabled.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“The almighty dollar is more powerful than the LBGT community, deal with it.”My point went right over your head, didn’t it? The Duck Dynasty person and those who share his anti-gay views are ultimately on the loosing side of history because more and more average citizens understand that the LGBT community deserve the same rights as everyone else. The tipping point has already past. I’ve obtained marital equality in my state 6 months ago. More and more states follow suit every day.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“Nope, it is you who do not get why people spoke up for the duck guy.”I spoke up for the duck guy’s right to express his beliefs.