HAHAHAHAHA! The conservatives promptly jump into action to mindlessly repeat their FoxNews memes.Calls for impeachment? For what? Bush lied to get us into two horrific wars, lied about what it would cost, and his administration was incredibly corrupt in its running of the war. Obama has done nothing to violate his oath of office.And apparently some people don’t even bother to look up actual facts before repeating lies and accusing those who have facts of lying. Amazing. Really, as a psychologist it is an extraordinary phenomenon.
Morty, now, you and I are not Americans…I understand you’re an Ameriphile – I like Americans, too, but apparently not as much as you do – and if you want to comment on their policies, fine, but be more aware of their laws.I have posted this before: In the USA it is not “criminal” to be without documents. It is a misdemeanour. At least the first time one is noted to not having any residence documents.There are practical reasons for this. Look it up, but be aware of the labels you place on undocumented migrants. Don’t be like the extreme right-wingers, ok?
Wouldn’t it be great if CEOs had to stand on a street corner in order to get hired? As a matter of fact why not just hire some Chinese CEOs who will work for a lot less than our greedy nation-impoverishing A-holes.
Many years ago, California had the Bracero (sp?)Program where migrant workers came to the US to pick crops. It was a guest worker program and seemed to work. They were given crumby/lousy places to stay, paid a wage to take home with them when crop picking season was over. They then went back to Mexico. They did work no American would do; were here legally, etc. I don’t know why that was ended.
PS – I enjoy reading your posts. Thanks. There are three places I’d like to visit, England, Norway and Deutschland. Alas, that’s never going to happen.
I accept that countries must have policies that control immigration and that they can control how they obtain residence and the path to citizenship, within reason. Many countries make their immigrants jump through so many hoops it borders on plain ol’ bigotry.I do NOT accept the demonisation and dehumanisation of those who, through no fault of their own, by reason of birth and birthplace, cannot or do not meet the strict criteria that allows legal immigration. The overwhelming majority of these migrants seek a better life. That in and of itself is not criminal. That they transgress national laws trying to get in I accept, and that nations have the right, within reason, to deport them I also accept; but I do not view them as criminals and nor do most nations’ laws.
The practical reason for the Americans to term it as a misdemenour has to do with the right to a trial. Bear in mind that a trial is expensive, would require legal representation, actually provides the migrant with more leeway to defend his actions etc.Pragmatism trumps emotion.
A note: I found it interesting that Speaker Boehner didn’t seem to realize that a large percentage of “new” legislation, just amends or modifies PREVIOUS legislation. So, why don’t his folks provide VIABLE amendments to the ACA, rather than just shout “REPEAL”?
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA! The conservatives promptly jump into action to mindlessly repeat their FoxNews memes.Calls for impeachment? For what? Bush lied to get us into two horrific wars, lied about what it would cost, and his administration was incredibly corrupt in its running of the war. Obama has done nothing to violate his oath of office.And apparently some people don’t even bother to look up actual facts before repeating lies and accusing those who have facts of lying. Amazing. Really, as a psychologist it is an extraordinary phenomenon.
OmqR-IV.0 over 10 years ago
Morty, now, you and I are not Americans…I understand you’re an Ameriphile – I like Americans, too, but apparently not as much as you do – and if you want to comment on their policies, fine, but be more aware of their laws.I have posted this before: In the USA it is not “criminal” to be without documents. It is a misdemeanour. At least the first time one is noted to not having any residence documents.There are practical reasons for this. Look it up, but be aware of the labels you place on undocumented migrants. Don’t be like the extreme right-wingers, ok?
joe vignone over 10 years ago
Wouldn’t it be great if CEOs had to stand on a street corner in order to get hired? As a matter of fact why not just hire some Chinese CEOs who will work for a lot less than our greedy nation-impoverishing A-holes.
cjr53 over 10 years ago
Many years ago, California had the Bracero (sp?)Program where migrant workers came to the US to pick crops. It was a guest worker program and seemed to work. They were given crumby/lousy places to stay, paid a wage to take home with them when crop picking season was over. They then went back to Mexico. They did work no American would do; were here legally, etc. I don’t know why that was ended.
cjr53 over 10 years ago
PS – I enjoy reading your posts. Thanks. There are three places I’d like to visit, England, Norway and Deutschland. Alas, that’s never going to happen.
OmqR-IV.0 over 10 years ago
I accept that countries must have policies that control immigration and that they can control how they obtain residence and the path to citizenship, within reason. Many countries make their immigrants jump through so many hoops it borders on plain ol’ bigotry.I do NOT accept the demonisation and dehumanisation of those who, through no fault of their own, by reason of birth and birthplace, cannot or do not meet the strict criteria that allows legal immigration. The overwhelming majority of these migrants seek a better life. That in and of itself is not criminal. That they transgress national laws trying to get in I accept, and that nations have the right, within reason, to deport them I also accept; but I do not view them as criminals and nor do most nations’ laws.
The practical reason for the Americans to term it as a misdemenour has to do with the right to a trial. Bear in mind that a trial is expensive, would require legal representation, actually provides the migrant with more leeway to defend his actions etc.Pragmatism trumps emotion.joe vignone over 10 years ago
Right,NFL, and what does he pay HIS floor sweepers?
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
A note: I found it interesting that Speaker Boehner didn’t seem to realize that a large percentage of “new” legislation, just amends or modifies PREVIOUS legislation. So, why don’t his folks provide VIABLE amendments to the ACA, rather than just shout “REPEAL”?
pirate227 over 10 years ago
Because we have the WORST. SPEAKER. EVER.