Pat Oliphant for October 09, 2013

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    1db  over 10 years ago

    Yeah, led by El Presidente Obama.

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    Enoki  over 10 years ago

    Right beside the Democrat train wreck train tracks too!

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    chayasnana  over 10 years ago

    wasradar, I wish you would read your comments over before posting them. You don’t make any sense at all. First you say that Obama is only 1/3 of the government, them you blame the whole mess on him. And the last sentence is completely incoherent.

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    Spyderred  over 10 years ago

    Right on. For anyone not getting the allusion, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

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    fritzoid Premium Member over 10 years ago

    Some contrast in tone would have been nice, I’m thinking (and Oliphant’s certainly capable of using contrast to great effect, when he chooses).

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    emptc12  over 10 years ago

    I hate to butcher one of my favorite songs, but this might serve as a theme for the present situation —.“It’s All in the Game”.Many a tear has to fallBut it’s all in the game,All in the wonderful shameThat we know as Guv.John has tough words with BarackAnd our future’s looking very dark.But these things they must rise above..Once in a while there’s a verbal brawlBut it’s all in the game.Soon they’re on TV side by sideWith a Rose Garden word bouquet,Phony smiles on stiffened lips,And brush each other’s fingertipsAnd this mess will fly away.(until another day!).Irrelevant note: I sometimes consider “It’s All in the Game” as the Cliff’s Notes version of “Liebestod” in Wagner’s TRISTAN UND ISOLDE. It says everything that needs to be said in a much shorter time, and as an added bonus nobody dies in the end.

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    emptc12  over 10 years ago

    Thanks, but I thought that had unfortunate connotations. .I respect your opinions in everything you write, although I don’t always agree with them. You have earnest heat that reminds me of Thomas Paine. We are probably alike in many ways. Like you, I wish I had more time to reconsider and edit..So please take my following comment with the good spirit it was intended. I find it increasingly difficult to make my motives clear and do not want to offend anyone. So many times I am shocked that people take things the wrong way. I really believe knowledge is the sunshine of the mind and we should communicate our ideas for continual review with others.. Ready?

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    decimuscaelius  over 10 years ago

    Racist!

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    emptc12  over 10 years ago

    I appreciate your latest flow of consciousness, and know what you mean about typing fingers going off on their own. I am very bad for that. Please realize that you pose overall an interesting question and my comment will be mostly for my own benefit, to discover what I think (at least for now). I will probably fail to have you agree with me. I am in no way trying to make fun of you or your ideals. (Already I am sounding pompous.) As my grandfather liked to say in his idiomatic broken English, I tell you true..I’m trying to imagine who your ideal person for president would be, out of those now in public view. Every person I see has some lack or flaw that disqualifies him according to your list. I don’t think a human yet exists that would meet all your specifications, especially if it’s a lawyer or a big businessman (my admitted prejudice). Would a divorced person be ineligible? How about sexual matters – how would compliance to “ideals” be verified? Is there any person ever elected president who was so perfect? Maybe the Ten Commandments are a big stumbling block here – are they absolute, or subject to modification according to circumstance?.Even the so-called Founding Fathers had personal flaws that might make them un-electable today, mostly to do with their class distinctions and wealth, I suppose – they were aristocrats, after all. I think you inevitably infer a Saint or the Savior Himself to be the best choice (but I don’t think they’d want the job!). Such unrealistic expectations are rhetorically impressive but don’t serve a useful purpose, in fact are damaging for adults functioning in a real world. As an analogy, if people waited thus to find the perfect mate, hardly anyone would marry. So why do we over-think this presidential selection thing? I think it appeals to our tribal instincts.. And in general, I respectfully suggest you beg the question very often with Obama. You exhaustively list all the things you personally think he is not and think the matter is settled. Has he no good points at all? Even if many people agree with you, many other people would strongly disagree in certain regards, or at least quibble with many of your interpretations and judgments. ..You must grant that an imperfect being will get the job. I think that candidates, instead of listing inflated, questionable qualifications, trying to convince people how perfect they are, should instead candidly admit their personal flaws and tell with whom they will work – from whatever party — to make up for their deficiencies. Even kings have advisers and secretaries – even the Pope has earthly guidance. .That has become the false mystique about the American presidency, I think – that he or she can be all things to all people: It’s impossible, especially in this era when people have artificially high expectations. Consumerism has tainted everything. Tricky psychological advertising techniques have slopped over into politics, and are irresistibly misused. I think our founders would be appalled and humiliated to see things as they are. We have by small increments veered gradually far off track. (Even analogies such as that are very dated, and are they suitable, anymore?) The job of President might be too big for one person, and maybe it’s time to re-define it to the present reality..Personally, I don’t think at this point we would accept an ordinary person in the role of president. Everything about a person is investigated, displayed publicly, and subject to imperfect interpretation. I think people secretly yearn for a Monarchy, or many monarchs according to regional interests so they can stop having to think and make decisions so often. We might be seeing that right now, as a matter of fact. Our squabbles, it seems to me, are slick political calculations and posturing that purport to show democracy in action. Should it be THIS messy, with no yield to compromise?.Often I despair. Maybe the U.S. is too big, and should be divided up officially as it seems to be heading now, anyway. I realize now I secretly have the elegant hope that one person or group of people would benignly stop that from happening..Thanks for your time.

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    Dtroutma  over 10 years ago

    ypoons: nice to know you don’t want Ted Cruz getting anywhere near the White House, even for lunch, with that list you came up with. BTW, might look at Ted’s dad and his little group that wants a theocracy in America. I think the Constitution in Article Six, and in the First Amendment, has a slight problem with that view!

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    jnik23260  over 10 years ago

    Excuse me? Obama did nothing BUT compromise in his first term. He wasted it trying to mollify those people and getting nothing for it. Now, he finally found a backbone, and the GOP can’t deal with it!BTW, Boner isn’t recognisable without a teardrop or two!

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    paultunes  over 10 years ago

    i think if the folks in the red states whine about the government the Feds should just close every US Government facility in those states. close the Federal courts, FBI,FDA and all other agencies, every national park and all military bases. listen to the howling then. the Repubs are happy to suck at the public tit when if suits them.

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    Sarastron Premium Member over 10 years ago

    Someone tell the CIA.

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    ossiningaling  over 10 years ago

    I don’t think McConnell will be Generalissimo much longer…

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    revertemark  over 10 years ago

    just a reminder , kids….reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and tripled the deficit .

    w. bush raised the debt ceiling 7 times and made up a war called iraq . i DO NOT want to hear about how bad the democrats are from republicans .

    both parties are bought and sold…leaving the citizens with nothing .

    markmac

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    emptc12  over 10 years ago

    The shadow man with a question mark suits me perfectly. I feel like that most of the time.

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