“It was that way for YEARS before the “Psychologists” and “Family Counselors” got involved.”
It was. That was while they were still committed to an educated populace. When they decided they could accomplish more with an uneducated populace, they went to psychologists and ‘counselors’ and social engineering.
They call it ‘education’, but it should be spelled ‘propaganda’.
Today is the first day of school (Mon)From what I hear and read teachers are supposed to teach how to take a standardized test. Jeb! is still behind some of it.
The biggest obstacles to good education in America today are the federal Department of Education followed by colleges of Education at universities. A bigger bunch of well documented idiots has never existed before in history.
Oh, for God’s sake. They weren’t listening to the psychologists. Psychologists (of which I am one) would tell you that schools would benefit from using a learning styles cycle (as they do in the UK and elsewhere), that you need a common curriculum that is based on state of the art science (as they do in Finland, with the best public schools in the world), and that different children learn in different ways, so you need either more resources for different styles or you need more teachers teaching in a more complex way.What we GOT were local school boards jamming their ignorant prejudices into schools (as in Texas) or relying on simplistic testing (which doesn’t work, but sure looks pretty and provides numbers), or fixed curricula relying on rote learning (which has limited usefulness), or people pushing religion into science courses.Don’t blame the psychologists — they know better.
PhD in personality psychology MEd in human development BA in Psychology and Social RelationsAnd an authority on global leadership assessment, actually.Not that I feel any need to justify to you — if you had read any of my comments (let alone absorbed them) you would already know.
Fair enough. I usually avoid responding to his comments, which are ignorant, stupid, or trollish to the point of absurdity. They’re not even GOOD trolling.
I guess I have to read this book. I am getting a tad tired of neurophysiologists presenting themselves as experts on behavior, I have to say; there is a reason why “brain surgeons” are not psychologists.The notion that morality or at least altruism is encoded in the genes was proposed in a speculative way by E. O. Wilson, incidentally, in one of his sociobiological works. He made an interesting case.
Yep, makes sense. It also fits with some findings I have had studying executive leadership abilities the past 20 years, strangely enough — ability to lead small groups is relatively common (though it requires emotional intelligence as a grounding and experience to hone it), but ability to get leveraged influence on a large group (e.g., a large company) is extremely rare. Last check, early humans and prehumans ranged in 20 person groups or so — and there you go.
Kali39 over 10 years ago
What’s he saying? Blessed are the cheesemakers?
rpmurray over 10 years ago
Maybe we ought to go back to rote memorization; that seems to be working for the countries that score higher than the US on tests.
amorris over 10 years ago
Not mainly the psychologists and counselors, though they played a part, the main reason teachers can’t flunk students is parents and lawyers.
hippogriff over 10 years ago
ahab: or Polynesian.
Hawthorne over 10 years ago
“It was that way for YEARS before the “Psychologists” and “Family Counselors” got involved.”
It was. That was while they were still committed to an educated populace. When they decided they could accomplish more with an uneducated populace, they went to psychologists and ‘counselors’ and social engineering.
They call it ‘education’, but it should be spelled ‘propaganda’.
rockngolfer over 10 years ago
Today is the first day of school (Mon)From what I hear and read teachers are supposed to teach how to take a standardized test. Jeb! is still behind some of it.
pirate227 over 10 years ago
Apparently you’re not familiar with the much criticized No Child Left Behind policy or you’d get the reference.
Enoki over 10 years ago
The biggest obstacles to good education in America today are the federal Department of Education followed by colleges of Education at universities. A bigger bunch of well documented idiots has never existed before in history.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
Oh, for God’s sake. They weren’t listening to the psychologists. Psychologists (of which I am one) would tell you that schools would benefit from using a learning styles cycle (as they do in the UK and elsewhere), that you need a common curriculum that is based on state of the art science (as they do in Finland, with the best public schools in the world), and that different children learn in different ways, so you need either more resources for different styles or you need more teachers teaching in a more complex way.What we GOT were local school boards jamming their ignorant prejudices into schools (as in Texas) or relying on simplistic testing (which doesn’t work, but sure looks pretty and provides numbers), or fixed curricula relying on rote learning (which has limited usefulness), or people pushing religion into science courses.Don’t blame the psychologists — they know better.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
PhD in personality psychology MEd in human development BA in Psychology and Social RelationsAnd an authority on global leadership assessment, actually.Not that I feel any need to justify to you — if you had read any of my comments (let alone absorbed them) you would already know.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
Thanks, Doc.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
Fair enough. I usually avoid responding to his comments, which are ignorant, stupid, or trollish to the point of absurdity. They’re not even GOOD trolling.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
I guess I have to read this book. I am getting a tad tired of neurophysiologists presenting themselves as experts on behavior, I have to say; there is a reason why “brain surgeons” are not psychologists.The notion that morality or at least altruism is encoded in the genes was proposed in a speculative way by E. O. Wilson, incidentally, in one of his sociobiological works. He made an interesting case.
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
Yep, makes sense. It also fits with some findings I have had studying executive leadership abilities the past 20 years, strangely enough — ability to lead small groups is relatively common (though it requires emotional intelligence as a grounding and experience to hone it), but ability to get leveraged influence on a large group (e.g., a large company) is extremely rare. Last check, early humans and prehumans ranged in 20 person groups or so — and there you go.