Somewhere between 3-6% identify as LGBT (including me as transsexual).-When you have over 50% support from the general public for ~5% of the population getting equal rights, doesn’t that count for something?-I’ve personally seen one marriage divorced by the state (in Maine, this was 3 years ago, before same-sex marriage passed) because a friend transitioned from male to female, and her wife still loved her and they wished to remain legally married. Heard plenty of others on various support forums from all over the country, too.
“Does anyone have a real number of people that are gay and have or want to get married?”
Study after study both in the US and in Western Europe and even confirmed by the NYT in their election analysis each year estimate somewhere between 2-3% of the population is gay or lesbian. The total number in the US is estimated to be 6-9 million. Highly, highly concentrated in a few urban areas.
If you’re just talking self-identifying Lesbians and Gays (i.e. exclusively or even predominantly same-sex attraction/activity), 5% may be about right, plus or minus a point or two. If you include Bisexuals (mostly opposite-sex attraction/activity, but more than incidental same-sex attraction/activity, or vice-versa), the number will be substantially larger, of course.
(I know some people think attractions are more telling than activity, and others believe the reverse; but either way, “LGBT” is a larger pool than “LGB”, which is larger than “LG.”)
Besides, I’d be very surprised if the first OPENLY Gay or Lesbian or Bisexual Supreme Court Justice were in fact the first Gay or Lesbian or Bisexual on the Bench (although it’s likely we’d have no way of knowing for sure)…
I fail to see what the difference is what the percentages are OR whether homosexuality is a choice or pre-determined. the pro-doma crowd created a class of citizens for the specific purpose of discriminating against them. it’s in the congressional record.
@motivemagnusit depends on how you define a homosexual. Is it anyone that has ever looked at like sexual equipment? touched it? experimented with it? Watched gay porn? Can a celibate be a homosexual. How about all the married men that go out and have closeted sex with guys on the side?how do you even begin to count those kinds of numbers?in my experience, the only difference between a gay man and a straight man is a sixpack of beer. I have no experience with lesbians, though.
Steve, Steve, Steve. The Supremes are more diverse now than ever in history. You had to leave the women out to make it look WASPY. And yet, you leave Clarence Thomas in why? You are just confused, my friend. Tomorrow is another day.
@dannysixpack " even the Catholic Church accepted homosexuality as long as it wasn’t practiced "you left out the main example. it IS accepted so long as it is between the higher ups in the church AND wasn’t SPOKEN ABOUT AND it was covered up.
So many of them seem still to be at the third-grade level, you know, when you first find out how it’s done….And you and your friends talk about it, but you can’t quite believe it, and it all seems kind of scary and icky, so you make jokes about it and try to pretend you’re so adult, but really you’re just a kid and baffled by the whole thing.
Stormrider2112 about 11 years ago
Somewhere between 3-6% identify as LGBT (including me as transsexual).-When you have over 50% support from the general public for ~5% of the population getting equal rights, doesn’t that count for something?-I’ve personally seen one marriage divorced by the state (in Maine, this was 3 years ago, before same-sex marriage passed) because a friend transitioned from male to female, and her wife still loved her and they wished to remain legally married. Heard plenty of others on various support forums from all over the country, too.
Libertarian1 about 11 years ago
“Does anyone have a real number of people that are gay and have or want to get married?”
Study after study both in the US and in Western Europe and even confirmed by the NYT in their election analysis each year estimate somewhere between 2-3% of the population is gay or lesbian. The total number in the US is estimated to be 6-9 million. Highly, highly concentrated in a few urban areas.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Libertarian: it varies, but I’ve seen some “studies” that declare as high as 10% of the U.S. population is LGBT.
fritzoid Premium Member about 11 years ago
If you’re just talking self-identifying Lesbians and Gays (i.e. exclusively or even predominantly same-sex attraction/activity), 5% may be about right, plus or minus a point or two. If you include Bisexuals (mostly opposite-sex attraction/activity, but more than incidental same-sex attraction/activity, or vice-versa), the number will be substantially larger, of course.
(I know some people think attractions are more telling than activity, and others believe the reverse; but either way, “LGBT” is a larger pool than “LGB”, which is larger than “LG.”)
Besides, I’d be very surprised if the first OPENLY Gay or Lesbian or Bisexual Supreme Court Justice were in fact the first Gay or Lesbian or Bisexual on the Bench (although it’s likely we’d have no way of knowing for sure)…
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
I fail to see what the difference is what the percentages are OR whether homosexuality is a choice or pre-determined. the pro-doma crowd created a class of citizens for the specific purpose of discriminating against them. it’s in the congressional record.
Libertarian1 about 11 years ago
Would you be OK with polygamy for exactly the same logical reasons you expressed? First cousin marriages?
For what it is worth I think marriage should simply be a legal contract between X number of people. No government involvement. Simplifies matters.
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
@motivemagnusit depends on how you define a homosexual. Is it anyone that has ever looked at like sexual equipment? touched it? experimented with it? Watched gay porn? Can a celibate be a homosexual. How about all the married men that go out and have closeted sex with guys on the side?how do you even begin to count those kinds of numbers?in my experience, the only difference between a gay man and a straight man is a sixpack of beer. I have no experience with lesbians, though.
Patinphx Premium Member about 11 years ago
Steve, Steve, Steve. The Supremes are more diverse now than ever in history. You had to leave the women out to make it look WASPY. And yet, you leave Clarence Thomas in why? You are just confused, my friend. Tomorrow is another day.
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
^he was just showing us the MAJORITY of the scotus.
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
motivemagus said, about 1 hour ago
@dannysixpack " even the Catholic Church accepted homosexuality as long as it wasn’t practiced "you left out the main example. it IS accepted so long as it is between the higher ups in the church AND wasn’t SPOKEN ABOUT AND it was covered up.
lonecat about 11 years ago
So many of them seem still to be at the third-grade level, you know, when you first find out how it’s done….And you and your friends talk about it, but you can’t quite believe it, and it all seems kind of scary and icky, so you make jokes about it and try to pretend you’re so adult, but really you’re just a kid and baffled by the whole thing.
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
the opponents obsession about sex acts is kinda funny since this has NOTHING to do with sex.