Lisa Benson for March 08, 2013

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    Dtroutma  about 11 years ago

    Maybe they should have been more careful what they granted “w”??

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    Peabody-Martini  about 11 years ago

    Rand Paul is a classic con artist. This whole thing was all about fund raising. He changed his tune within a few hours.

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    mikecronis  about 11 years ago

    Could be an Ann Rand reference, alternatively.

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    Wraithkin  about 11 years ago

    Nice deflection of the point of the ‘toon. This isn’t about the War Powers Resolution. Stop trolling. This is about the Fifth Amendment (Y’know, the one that gives the right to due process), and the violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, wherein the US government is not permitted to use military force inside our borders. Rand Paul used the only tool he had available to force attention on this gross violation of our Constitutional rights. I picked up at hour 7 and he was still going strong about how our government is trying to abuse this technology, and the answer Obama and Holder gave him about using drone strikes on Americans should have been no, but they said, “I haven’t yet, but we aren’t ruling it out.” That’s a violation of the US Constitution (again).

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    I Play One On TV  about 11 years ago

    ““W”?? still on that??? IT’S O…so wake up”

    We can argue about blame from now until doomsday. On the other hand, the fact that GWB no longer occupies the White House does not erase anything he did while in office, good or bad. dtroutma’s point is a valid one, which I voiced over and over during the Bush administration: don’t give power to Dubya that you wouldn’t want Hillary Clinton to have. Fell on deaf ears, and now you see the result.

    Therefore an astute observation, trout. But you expected the knee-jerk reaction, didn’t you?

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    TheFinalSolution  about 11 years ago

    So have all but the 2nd & 3rd amendments of the Bill of Rights, in reality! And at least one of them is in the cross hairs.

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    elbob83709  about 11 years ago

    One small shot by Rand. A large shot for Randkind. Good one.

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    Wraithkin  about 11 years ago

    Like Rand, I don’t care who is in the WH. Bypassing the 5th Amendment (which is the primary issue) is my concern. The act of assassinating dissidents who are declared enemies of the state is how North Korea operates, not the USA. But if drone strikes are authorized within the US against Citizens, that’s exactly what we will become. Everyone likes to shout, “But Bush (insert comparison here).” The problem with that is Bush never killed US citizens, at home or abroad. He never even intimated that he would kill US Citizens with targeted assassinations (because that’s effectively what drone strikes are). Foreign combatants? Fair game. But US Citizens, at home or abroad, are entitled 5th Amendment protection against the US Government. Period. Obama is the first to ignore this principle. In other news, looks like Obama is affording 5th Amendment Rights to Foreign Combatants. Why is he giving them more due process than US Citizens?

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    I Play One On TV  about 11 years ago

    “For the libs it will always be Bush. Obama can do no wrong.”

    It is dangerous to make sweeping generalities. Bush did many things wrong, and the fact he no longer occupies the White House does not make them go away. Richard Nixon started the EPA. Gerry Ford started the Department of Education. They still exist today, even though both of them are dead and gone.

    And not all libs believe Obama can do no wrong. They just hope he will do less wrong than we know Romney would have done. At least this lib does….

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    Dtroutma  about 11 years ago

    Bruce: didn’t go to the White House fence, but DID contact my representatives for a long time, and often. My House rep is an idiot, extreme right and gaining “position”, sadly, but my Senator Ron Wyden, on the intelligence committee did get my comments, and support, to follow law and NOT go to fool’s wars. He’s also against domestic use of drones, and more control on their covert use, but NOT totally against using the “best tools available” when necessary.

    Thanks also to Radish for pointing out this whole thing goes back a lot further than either just “W”, or Obama, as many of us are aware. It is how each administration uses these powers, or mis-uses them, that is of concern.

    While I liked seeing Rand actually filibuster, his actions before, and after, show he’s a lot more concerned about 2016 and the “TEA party”, than actual use of drones, or misuse of power, that he seeks as well.

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    Yontrop  about 11 years ago

    “I’ll stick with my sweeping generality. 99 44/100% of libs believe Obama can do no wrong, and that anything bad (in their eyes) with the country is still Bush’s fault.”You are still wrong. Very few liberals are knee-jerk Messiah worshipers. I’m sure there are Obama supporters who do find it difficult to find fault with him, but to be a true liberal takes education and that makes us more skeptical than you want to pretend. Since the 2000 Presidential election we (on the whole) have also become more practical. We know both parties have faults, and as much as we may not like it, picking to lesser of two corporate lackeys is still the lesser of two evils, and the rational choice.

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    Yontrop  about 11 years ago

    And just because it’s not all Bush’s fault, doesn’t mean that there is no lasting effect from the Bush Administration’s eight years of mismanagement. There were problems before and the Republicans have done things to make it worse since, but an election does not reset history.

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    sumsin90  about 11 years ago

    I cannot understand everyone blaming Obama for the drones! Is it their contention that the drone program is 5 or 6 years old? Or is it that Obama has been hatching this plot with help from the military for all those years as a community activist? The question is…is it constitutional, is is beneficial, can we expect this activity from other countries in retribution? Come together people.

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