Michael Ramirez for February 26, 2013

Even with a pie chart, the libs won’t understand.

So, according to Ramirez, a deficit is okay, as long as it’s not too large…

The alleged ‘deficit’ numbers are too high. Once we apply proper accounting techniques and ensure that we tailor the numbers in our favor that pie will look even better. The sequester will also cost us some jobs but in the end we will be leaner and stronger, as we were intended to be. I prefer apple myself. Pass me a slice.

Try & explain this chart to those whose jobs are getting furloughed. Or to those whose unemployment is getting cut prematurely & communities affected by defense budget cuts. There is a price to be paid, there always is. We need to start closing tax loopholes & raise revenue on the 1 pct. to offset the impact of these cuts.

Mikey conveniently ignores the 2009 budget Shrub signed (which was larger than the 2013 budget after accounting for inflation). Of course, the Righty trolls are too dim to notice the error.

The truth and facts never get in the way of any political agenda.No single party has the corner on the market in truth or facts.They all lie, obfuscate, distort and omit relevant information to further their agenda.If you think otherwise, you are a tool and a convenient idiot for those you support.

So you know the path by heart I guess :)

When Mark Warner became governor of Virginia, the state treasury was a shambles. The previous governor had gotten elected as a tax-eliminator, as he promised to end a tax that is universally hated in VA. He did not eliminate it; he stuck to his original plan, and had the state pay the tax to the localities instead of the taxpayer. Of course, the taxpayer paid the state to pay the localities, but, hey, he was cutting taxes, so we voted for him. Duh.

His plan cost the state big-time. We run a 2-year budget, and the only way to reduce our slide into federal-debt territory was to either raise taxes or reduce the amount that the state paid for local taxes. Mr. Gilmore was interested in running for president, and wanted his street cred to include the idea that he was willing to “cut” taxes regardless of the consequences. That fact, plus the facts he is white, hates gays, and is against abortion lined him up pretty well, in his opinion. The state legislature did not agree, and they created a stalemate, where Virginia was left without a budget, because he would not budge.

Mr. Warner, realizing the seriousness of the mess Mr. Gilmore left, threatened to reduce hours at DMV and at state liquor stores. This was a bluff; the state liquor stores are required to pay their own way, so they receive no direct state funding, so there would be absolutely no savings.

But the threat had the desired effect: DMV is hard enough to navigate without reduced hours, and no one wanted to have fewer hours to buy liquor. The people told their legislators to do something about it, and a series of changes to the tax code and a moderate tax increase saved our credit rating, and helped make the state more liquid.

I wonder if maybe Mr. Obama was trying to do the same thing when warning of consequences. Mr. Warner did not intend to make those cuts; he just threatened to do so to increase awareness. Doesn’t matter; many people are poised to call his bluff. We will all suffer as a result.

Too bad we have to wait for dire consequences to start thinking creatively (I’m being as optimistic as I can be here). And it’s too bad that some people are willing to increase pain for political advantage.

By the way, Mr. Warner is now US Senator from Virginia. Mr. Gilmore worked his way up to Republican National Committee chairman before his abrasive ways and his treatment of his marriage vows made him return to private life.

sw10mm said, about 7 hours agoEven with a pie chart, the libs won’t understand…(end quote)-You are so correct!certain citizens and many voters do not discern true facts from false propaganda when they read…..ignore data sources that are most reliable….never use math on budget spending….never question the MSM or their party’s version of issues. It is hopeless….conservatives are facing brainwashed people, and we are not de-programmers, Apparently. Rush has tried for decades….

after ww2 defect was 162% of gdp didnt get paid off until 1962 war gen didnt get to name calling they dug in and paid it off so we need to quit whinning and get with it ww2s would be discussed with us

Spot On! Toon.

So when W signed a budget that was certain to be off by hundreds of billions (because it didn’t include the costs of 2 wars), that was OK. *But when Obama signed a budget that included the costs of the wars, and resulted in roughly the same actual deficit, that was not OK.*Now I get it.

The pie on the right is drawn way too big if it is supposed to be 40% bigger. It is more like 125% bigger, so it is wrong.

I appreciate the pie chart that said

Cost of debt ( unless you want to default). has gone from 2.7% of budget to 12% of budget

. Unemployment is 50% greater, UI is 30% greater, to keep at level with 2007 levels you would leave most people bankrupt

. Military has continued to grow by yet another 100 billion

. Welfare still has less budget per person

. Medicare / medicaid needs to be reformed that said no party wants to make a move because it damages your 55+ vote.

P.S talking about lies, the chart says last time the GOP controlled both houses, in 2006 the Democrats took majorities in both Congress & Senate.

Pies not shown to scale