Pretty much sums it up. The funny thing, however, is that a majority of Americans have always seen the PPACA as a scam; most don’t want it, a majority want it repealed. I agree there are some good parts to it, but overall the bill needs to be scrapped and reform needs to be made, not creating a new entitlement.
Is anyone counting and reporting the number of Doctors quitting the American system…quitting practice or changing the form of practice to groups Inc.? Or refusing to take Medicare/Medicaid patients? Most Doctors do not like Obamacare, and it is a Government intrusion into the Freedoms listed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution….choosing careers and choosing how to practice and choosing whom to serve…and choosing methods and treatments without bureaucrats in government writing “rules”..
The current healthcare plan is very flawed. The greater flaws exist in the ability of the legislature to work together to create the very necessary health care reform our nation needs to address the problems of an aging population with very poor health practices. ^Mr. Obama took a plan put forth by a popular Republican and hoped this bipartisan olive branch would bear fruit. Nancy Pelosi’s arrogance pushed away Republicans who might have worked with the 2009 House of Representatives and Mitch McConnell’s vow to make Obama a one term presidency combined with his use of the filibuster shut the senate down like the broken engine it still is. Reid and Boehnor have much of the blame in this as well. Obama should have been more involved, and the leaders of the parties should have been more polite and respectful to each other. It didn’t work out that way and we the people attack each other rather than them.^Healthcare reform is important and urgent. Hospitals cannot afford to treat patients for free and we are already paying a tax to cover the cost of every patient that enters an emergency room unable to pay his bill.^I seem to recall seeing where an aspirin cost over $10 on a patient’s bill. If a 10cent pill can cost 100% more than it is worth, does that mean a $1000 procedure is going to cost us or our insurance company $100,000? That is a huge mark up and we pay this tax in our payroll statements, the price of products and services we receive from companies that pay employee insurance, and the money we pay for our own medical services. ^I believe if all Americans had to pay for insurance, we would see costs go down on those areas and others. We should at least try.Respectfully,C.
Well, the Trolls are happy, for a change! ##Sure, let’s scrap O-Care and go back to the old fashioned Health Insurance Companies running the show. They are MUCH better at *&$#ing the public that Uncle Sam could ever be! And the Prescription Drub companies will take care of you, when your sick, won’t they? They SURE WILL!!
@ King of Me, with a nod to Reasons Ventriliquist – Respectfoll Troll was an attempt to be funny. Peace Troll had been my first choice, but as I do believe there are times when even the most civilized person must fight, could imagine the name being used against me. I admit, the proper spelling does look better and perhaps makes me look a little bit smarter. Just a little bit. ;)thanks for the critiques,C.
@wraithkini like your idea, it sounds great in electrons. can you imagine how long it would take to pass a single ‘bill’ the way you present it?your plan is, in reality, no plan. it could never happen.hell, this congress won’t even confirm a republican if he was appointed by obama.
Patience? or Patients?“You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it’s almost embarrassing to listen to you”The quote if from Zbigniew Brzenzinski, but reading your reply brought it immediately to mind.If you don’t like the ideas being presented, present one of your own. It is easy to attack the messenger, but harder to provide a message.Your neighbors need healthcare reform. Hospitals have to either be allowed to turn patients away when they can’t pay, or be paid.“Obamacare”, a modified form of “Romneycare”, is a very flawed product. Until extremists are willing to put aside petty squabbles and compromise on a viable idea, a flawed product is better than no product at all. I’m already paying increased taxes for healthcare. It is in the payroll deductions, the price of products and services I buy, and the cost of medical services. Prove to me that no healthcare is cheaper than what is being provided now. There’s a fire in America. Either get into the bucket line and help put it out, or stay out of the way. Comments like yours just fan the flames.Desperately,C.
Americans will continue to have an expensive and mediocre by world standards health care delivery system because they are not prepared to address the real problems and implement real solutions. Instead they will continue to ideological mud wrestle while thousands die for lack of decent coverage and hundreds of thousands declare medical bankruptcy. ACA is a start but not enough.
Why do so many people see our choices as either: (1) like the PPACA and shut up your complaining, or (2) scrap the PPACA and go back to the way it was just a few years ago?
I propose a complete rescission of the PPACA, since no one bothered to read it before it was enacted and we’re now finding out what a disaster it will be, and then addressing the real problem. The real problem is not the providing of medical care, but rather the skyrocketing costs. Costs do not have to be controlled by the government taking over the entire health care system.
Before employers started providing insurance for their employees for everything from gas pains to heart transplants and dental and vision, the costs for typical doctor visits, dental care and eye care were fairly affordable. After someone decided that insurance should be provided to everyone for everything, then we started seeing an escalation in costs, primarily because the insurance companies won’t pay what the doctors charge, so the doctors raised their prices, and then the insurance companies paid an even lower percentage, causing the doctors to raise their charges again; repeat and repeat and repeat.
So my eyeglasses, which used to cost $100 (lenses, not the frames), now cost $600 (lenses, not the frames). And I don’t have eye insurance.
A simple CBC that used to cost $25, is now billed at $500 (and my insurance still pays $25, which the lab accepts).
The PPACA does not address these issues. It’s simply running insurance providers and doctors out of business and leaving the underlying problems unsolved.
Wraithkin about 11 years ago
Pretty much sums it up. The funny thing, however, is that a majority of Americans have always seen the PPACA as a scam; most don’t want it, a majority want it repealed. I agree there are some good parts to it, but overall the bill needs to be scrapped and reform needs to be made, not creating a new entitlement.
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
Well Mike Ramirez said it so IT MUST BE TRUE.
lonecat about 11 years ago
If you don’t like the ACA, work towards a better system — single payer would do.
Odon Premium Member about 11 years ago
Hell I’ve averaged over $20,000 a year for the last several years. Well before the influence of Obamacare.
disgustedtaxpayer about 11 years ago
Is anyone counting and reporting the number of Doctors quitting the American system…quitting practice or changing the form of practice to groups Inc.? Or refusing to take Medicare/Medicaid patients? Most Doctors do not like Obamacare, and it is a Government intrusion into the Freedoms listed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution….choosing careers and choosing how to practice and choosing whom to serve…and choosing methods and treatments without bureaucrats in government writing “rules”..
chazandru about 11 years ago
The current healthcare plan is very flawed. The greater flaws exist in the ability of the legislature to work together to create the very necessary health care reform our nation needs to address the problems of an aging population with very poor health practices. ^Mr. Obama took a plan put forth by a popular Republican and hoped this bipartisan olive branch would bear fruit. Nancy Pelosi’s arrogance pushed away Republicans who might have worked with the 2009 House of Representatives and Mitch McConnell’s vow to make Obama a one term presidency combined with his use of the filibuster shut the senate down like the broken engine it still is. Reid and Boehnor have much of the blame in this as well. Obama should have been more involved, and the leaders of the parties should have been more polite and respectful to each other. It didn’t work out that way and we the people attack each other rather than them.^Healthcare reform is important and urgent. Hospitals cannot afford to treat patients for free and we are already paying a tax to cover the cost of every patient that enters an emergency room unable to pay his bill.^I seem to recall seeing where an aspirin cost over $10 on a patient’s bill. If a 10cent pill can cost 100% more than it is worth, does that mean a $1000 procedure is going to cost us or our insurance company $100,000? That is a huge mark up and we pay this tax in our payroll statements, the price of products and services we receive from companies that pay employee insurance, and the money we pay for our own medical services. ^I believe if all Americans had to pay for insurance, we would see costs go down on those areas and others. We should at least try.Respectfully,C.
William Bednar Premium Member about 11 years ago
Well, the Trolls are happy, for a change! ##Sure, let’s scrap O-Care and go back to the old fashioned Health Insurance Companies running the show. They are MUCH better at *&$#ing the public that Uncle Sam could ever be! And the Prescription Drub companies will take care of you, when your sick, won’t they? They SURE WILL!!
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
Has anyone noticed that Obamacare hasn’t really started yet and won’t start for another 10 and a half months?
chazandru about 11 years ago
@ King of Me, with a nod to Reasons Ventriliquist – Respectfoll Troll was an attempt to be funny. Peace Troll had been my first choice, but as I do believe there are times when even the most civilized person must fight, could imagine the name being used against me. I admit, the proper spelling does look better and perhaps makes me look a little bit smarter. Just a little bit. ;)thanks for the critiques,C.
ARodney about 11 years ago
Wow. Everything in the “humorous footnote” is a lie. A new low in cartooning.
Leticia Shelley about 11 years ago
With or without insurance a sick person already deals with increasing debt and premiums.
What nobody seems to get upset about is the greed of the insurance and medical industries.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Just a bottle of “Issa Elixer”, with some Rove bitters added.
genemascho about 11 years ago
youll pay one way or another private health wont pay $200 for a $20 brace fraud is what is killing medicare send them a bill and they pay
dannysixpack about 11 years ago
@wraithkini like your idea, it sounds great in electrons. can you imagine how long it would take to pass a single ‘bill’ the way you present it?your plan is, in reality, no plan. it could never happen.hell, this congress won’t even confirm a republican if he was appointed by obama.
chazandru about 11 years ago
Patience? or Patients?“You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it’s almost embarrassing to listen to you”The quote if from Zbigniew Brzenzinski, but reading your reply brought it immediately to mind.If you don’t like the ideas being presented, present one of your own. It is easy to attack the messenger, but harder to provide a message.Your neighbors need healthcare reform. Hospitals have to either be allowed to turn patients away when they can’t pay, or be paid.“Obamacare”, a modified form of “Romneycare”, is a very flawed product. Until extremists are willing to put aside petty squabbles and compromise on a viable idea, a flawed product is better than no product at all. I’m already paying increased taxes for healthcare. It is in the payroll deductions, the price of products and services I buy, and the cost of medical services. Prove to me that no healthcare is cheaper than what is being provided now. There’s a fire in America. Either get into the bucket line and help put it out, or stay out of the way. Comments like yours just fan the flames.Desperately,C.
Ellen Gwynne about 11 years ago
This ’cartoonist" is so predictable I just skip him and his venom.
Gypsy8 about 11 years ago
Americans will continue to have an expensive and mediocre by world standards health care delivery system because they are not prepared to address the real problems and implement real solutions. Instead they will continue to ideological mud wrestle while thousands die for lack of decent coverage and hundreds of thousands declare medical bankruptcy. ACA is a start but not enough.
chazandru about 11 years ago
You are too kind. Thank you for your generous words. Humbly,C.
Kim0158 Premium Member about 11 years ago
Why do so many people see our choices as either: (1) like the PPACA and shut up your complaining, or (2) scrap the PPACA and go back to the way it was just a few years ago?
I propose a complete rescission of the PPACA, since no one bothered to read it before it was enacted and we’re now finding out what a disaster it will be, and then addressing the real problem. The real problem is not the providing of medical care, but rather the skyrocketing costs. Costs do not have to be controlled by the government taking over the entire health care system.
Before employers started providing insurance for their employees for everything from gas pains to heart transplants and dental and vision, the costs for typical doctor visits, dental care and eye care were fairly affordable. After someone decided that insurance should be provided to everyone for everything, then we started seeing an escalation in costs, primarily because the insurance companies won’t pay what the doctors charge, so the doctors raised their prices, and then the insurance companies paid an even lower percentage, causing the doctors to raise their charges again; repeat and repeat and repeat.
So my eyeglasses, which used to cost $100 (lenses, not the frames), now cost $600 (lenses, not the frames). And I don’t have eye insurance.
A simple CBC that used to cost $25, is now billed at $500 (and my insurance still pays $25, which the lab accepts).
The PPACA does not address these issues. It’s simply running insurance providers and doctors out of business and leaving the underlying problems unsolved.