I agree with Mickey. The healthcare bill is an imperfect document scraped together in order to “do something, even if it’s wrong.”If our legislators ever decide to actually work together instead of making every piece of legislation an ad for the next elections, they could actually create a product that would save the nation money and provide healthcare for an overwhelming majority. There are too many examples of medical offices and hospitals succeeding in this industry, but there are also too many lobbyists twisting politicians arms and scaring medical professionals.How many of you have written to your legislators yet?Respectfully,C.
Still scratching my head about why corporations thought that it was better to be in charge of their employees health care than to hand it off to someone else and relieve themselves of the obligation forever. Only thing I can think of is that it must have given them some power over their employees that they wouldn’t have otherwise have..And then … how do you explain douchebags like John Schnatter and others who simply refuse to pay it on any terms?
Remember that this all started because of the number of un-insured people in the country. It would have been less expensive to buy insurance for them instead of forcing all of us onto this monstrosity.
Single payer (which is where we are heading) always leads to rationing.
Hello TrustedMechanic,This is turning out to be a bad day for me to be posting. I had to delete one post because I was totally wrong, and had to apologize for not updating my numbers on another one.et tu mechanic? /grinOver the last four years, there have been stories on NBC Nightly News and CBS about hospitals that are succeeding in cutting costs through a variety of methods and creating better working relationships with insurance companies. In the past two years, as my wife and I dealt with some severe medical issues, I had too many opportunities to see medical offices at work and to talk to staff. That said, I can’t provide you with the quality of proof your question deserves. I would have to look through websites for too long. And while I can name the doctor offices where I was most impressed, even that is ‘nuanced’ information.I thank you for your very kind comments and wish I could quickly find some of the places of which I wrote.However, I’ve discovered those who wish to attack ideas rarely let facts or proofs get in their way.Perhaps I should have begun my post to which you replied as…Rumor has it….I’ll try to do better next time, Mechanic.Thank you and my other friends here who try to keep me honest, and therefore, relevant to the conversations.Sincerely,C.
Henry Ford (paraphrased) said: “If you think the government will do a good job of taking care of you just look at the American Indian.”
Unfortunately that is so true in so many cases. Governments are not a business, they aren’t designed to make a profit. But they can strive for real efficiency often learned from the private sector. Today too many of our governing bodies don’t think things like budgets or efficiency apply to them. Most of the great empires of the past failed not because of military losses but economic failure.
DangerBunny over 11 years ago
Gotta agree with you, Lisa, Single Payer would be a whole lot simpler.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
Have no fear Bunny, this is just going to be a long expensive evolution to single payer. It can’t go anywhere else logically.
chazandru over 11 years ago
I agree with Mickey. The healthcare bill is an imperfect document scraped together in order to “do something, even if it’s wrong.”If our legislators ever decide to actually work together instead of making every piece of legislation an ad for the next elections, they could actually create a product that would save the nation money and provide healthcare for an overwhelming majority. There are too many examples of medical offices and hospitals succeeding in this industry, but there are also too many lobbyists twisting politicians arms and scaring medical professionals.How many of you have written to your legislators yet?Respectfully,C.
Chillbilly over 11 years ago
Still scratching my head about why corporations thought that it was better to be in charge of their employees health care than to hand it off to someone else and relieve themselves of the obligation forever. Only thing I can think of is that it must have given them some power over their employees that they wouldn’t have otherwise have..And then … how do you explain douchebags like John Schnatter and others who simply refuse to pay it on any terms?
Mneedle over 11 years ago
Remember that this all started because of the number of un-insured people in the country. It would have been less expensive to buy insurance for them instead of forcing all of us onto this monstrosity.
Single payer (which is where we are heading) always leads to rationing.
chazandru over 11 years ago
Hello TrustedMechanic,This is turning out to be a bad day for me to be posting. I had to delete one post because I was totally wrong, and had to apologize for not updating my numbers on another one.et tu mechanic? /grinOver the last four years, there have been stories on NBC Nightly News and CBS about hospitals that are succeeding in cutting costs through a variety of methods and creating better working relationships with insurance companies. In the past two years, as my wife and I dealt with some severe medical issues, I had too many opportunities to see medical offices at work and to talk to staff. That said, I can’t provide you with the quality of proof your question deserves. I would have to look through websites for too long. And while I can name the doctor offices where I was most impressed, even that is ‘nuanced’ information.I thank you for your very kind comments and wish I could quickly find some of the places of which I wrote.However, I’ve discovered those who wish to attack ideas rarely let facts or proofs get in their way.Perhaps I should have begun my post to which you replied as…Rumor has it….I’ll try to do better next time, Mechanic.Thank you and my other friends here who try to keep me honest, and therefore, relevant to the conversations.Sincerely,C.
Odon Premium Member over 11 years ago
I am ready, tell us about the other industrialized counties healthcare cost per capita, and outcomes, compared to the US.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
Henry Ford (paraphrased) said: “If you think the government will do a good job of taking care of you just look at the American Indian.”
Unfortunately that is so true in so many cases. Governments are not a business, they aren’t designed to make a profit. But they can strive for real efficiency often learned from the private sector. Today too many of our governing bodies don’t think things like budgets or efficiency apply to them. Most of the great empires of the past failed not because of military losses but economic failure.
Justice22 over 11 years ago
There isn’t any red tape. Swipe your card and that is it.
Odon Premium Member over 11 years ago
Ever have to deal with the red tape under our current system. I’ve been doing it for four very ugly years and its beyond aggravating.