Pat Oliphant for January 02, 2013

The actual facts do not support Mr Ima at all. The more guns in a state, the more gun deaths. The more guns in a city, the more gun deaths. The more guns in a county, the more gun deaths. The more guns in a home, the more gun deaths. All putting guns in school will accomplish is more gun deaths. It’s like car alarms — for every car alarm that’s telling you a car is being stolen, there are hundreds of car alarms that go off, on their owners, by accident. (And horrible as the killings at Sandy Hook were, school shootings are very, very, very rare when you look at the number of schools and school days in America. With guns in schools, there’ll be one or two accidental shootings every day, and when there IS a school shooting, the guns are unlikely to accomplish any more than they did at Columbine.

It may be another 50 years before another crazy with a gun shows up at any one school again. When he does, an armed teacher would more likely get herself shot than shoot him. But in the meantime, how many accidental shootings of kids might occur, or what about a student in the school going berzerk and having ready access to a gun? Difficult to see guns in school being the right solution to an extremely rare event.

You might kill a few by mistake, but hey! You saved one!

All children in school need to wear bulletproof vests and teachers carry AK-47’s and be trained for assault attacks.

Wasn’t there a gun massacre at an Amish school in 2006? Has everyone forgotten about that?

NPR article today on a study looking at homicide rates in states that have enacted “stand your ground” laws. In every case the rate has gone up. Study was “unclear” on the reasons!

So if gun deaths go up, then they were justified! Logic, meet magic.

1) Guns DO kill.2.) The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to prevent him from getting a gun.3.) The NRA is a National embarrassment.

Consider something:

Some guy goes crazy in a school and begins shooting up the classes. A teacher who has a gun of his own, tries to shoot back.

Meanwhile someone calls 9-1-1 to report a shooter at the school

When, the police arrive, the first thing they see is someone with a gun, and shooting.

It it the teacher, or the shooter? How are the cops supposed to know? All they know is that there’s a man, with a gun, in a school is preparing to open fire.

So, what do you think, they’ll do?

Obey your teacher – or ELSE!!

Midaswelby: The only problem with your NRA claim is this, it doesn’t hold up with real statistics, not Wayne’s imaginary ones. Also, violent crime IS down, but that includes battery in bar fights, rape, and most do NOT involve firearms, either by the offender or victim. Firearm homicides however ARE up, and continuing to rise. Thank La Pierre and friends for that.

BTW, just moved from in town to out of town. The folks we bought from never locked the doors unless they were going to be gone for a while. My “town house” we’re keeping as a rental, and as it’s empty, we’ve been locking the front door, more times in the last month than in the 32 years we lived in the house. Which, while my guns at this house ARE in a gun safe, don’t lock the doors when I go to town. Of course, I have a vicious 12 pound dachshund and an “attack cat” to guard the place, but the cockatiel is usually in his cage.

But, the REAL point is, our new house is less than a mile from a minimum security prison, and we feel no threat, though minimum facilities have far more escapes or “walkaways” than medium or maximum. Part of the “security” is that if someone does depart the facility, they want to get ass far away, as soon as possible, and aren’t about to mess around in the neighborhood. The prison DOES have a “call list” that notifies all the close-in locals if someone does spllit.

And yes, having locked up some folks, quite a few actually, while in law enforcement, and some of them never saw “light of day” again (homicide and multiple homicides for example) knowing a little about the “mind set” of “bad guys” helps. What scares me more are some of our “good guys” out do “defend themselves at all costs”.

And THAT is where Pat is going with this ’toon, food for tthought.

Maybe if we would stop giving the killers the attention it would help. For week even month they hit the front page and even years latter when someone else does it thier name comes up. Maybe if we would use the term some a hole Instead of adam lanza there could help a little. Most people know his name but noen of the victims

“If it saves one child it’s worth it.”?#Even if it kills all the rest of the class? I think not.

“Mr. Ima is the class dunce.

The NEA isn’t calling for this. The NRA is. As a teacher, if they require me to have a gun in my classroom, I’ll quit. I’ve got curious little 8-year-olds in my room now who would think nothing of trying out that thing. in their video games, they always get a new life, right?

They’re lucky anybody shows up to teach now. Most teachers I know would rather quit than be put in a position to have to kill someone.

DMMAC’s first statement is, in fact, true. The NEA is NOT callig for guns in classrooms. That, by your post, makes the rest of his statement proveable. Anybody who doesn’t think kids will find the guns needs to remember this: Childproof caps aren’t!

Maybe we should also issue weapons to the students. By the time kids are in kindergarten shouldn’t they know how to handle an assault weapon?

Great cartoon, depressing comments.