Clark, you are getting a little redundant. It was Bill Clinton that repealed Glass Segal, he said it was no longer appropriate. You don’t understand tax rates or their purpose for the levels of income that are taxable. Get over your hate the rich attitude. Many senior citizens depend on dividends to live on. Increasing the tax rate would impact them severely. The 50’s and 60’s tax rates were high but they had lots of avenues for deductions. It’s not as simple as you would make it sound.
The cartoon has the typical partisan slant we see from liberals and conservatives alike. I disagree with the premise, but I understand why this perception exists.In the movie “Dave”, a presidential look a like desperate to make a difference brings in a friend to look at the books in order to save some important benefits for children.We really need to look at where the money is going.I’ve mentioned a friend who is a “regulator” whose office reviews government contracts. That office found ways to save the USA millions in the time she has been with them. She told me just this week of a recent success where her office convinced officials to do things in a way that will save the American people as much as 4 million dollars per year.We need more people doing things like this. There is so much waste in how governments, federal and state, are run that billions could be saved just by cleaning up the regs and reviewing contracts. We need it in our tax laws, our healthcare regs, banking regs, etc etc.Good people with good intentions can accomplish amazing things.Respectfully,C.
@Tomga – Fortune 500 companies don’t pop up overnight, so your comment is pretty much meaningless. I can show you lots of growing businesses, however, that were started by folks who grew up in slums or projects and received either welfare, food stamps or both along the way.
I’m a Libertarian (voted for Gary Johnson) but I am also self employed. I’ve worked with small business all my career and I know how difficult it can be. Congrats on your growth.
My older brother was a mechanic and a lot of people liked him.But he hated me from the day I was born.His first wife didn’t speak to me for 25 years until she divorced him and apologized to me, and his daughters who are about 49 and 45 have never spoken to me their entire lives.When he died I was not able to go 800 miles to his funeral, but I wouldn’t have walked accross the street to it.
Have you no higher ambition than to be a worthless thief, who uses violence to steal whatever he wants? Loot loot loot, steal steal steal, take take take, force force force. That’s all you parasitic little thugs know how to do.
Rock, sounds like we had the same “older brother”, a lot of examples of what a scumbag he was, to me, and his own family. But, when he had his stroke, I flew across the country, to help THEM, not “him”. He croaked before I could get there, but I still spent a week helping them, and my mom, “cope”. His life attitude was “The world owes me, I owe nothing to anyone”. That he was a life-long ultra right winger, anti-tax, anti-union, guy, who never worked on anything but government contracts, where he bragged about ripping off the taxpayer, says a lot.
No, your taking a very simplistic position. When people are in the millions for income, Buffet may have more of a point. I had lots of small business clients that paid in the 36% bracket depending on deductions and state income taxes were above that. I have been very successful at my profession and you should do more research than just quote one comment out of context. Tax preparation and deductions are a progressive, layered and complex individual situation.
I get so tired of weirdo right wingers claiming that all Democrats live on welfare, don’t work, and just want hand-outs. They must know that they’re lying. And yet they do it again and again, even when corrected. Have they no shame?
Yes, of course no one claims that there are no instances of welfare fraud. I don’t see the evidence, however, that cases of fraud account for a large part of the welfare budget. My own family — a couple of generations ago — depended on welfare. My grandparents and parents worked hard to get themselves off welfare, but if they hadn’t had the support for the time they needed it my parents wouldn’t have been able to get the education they used to get themselves good jobs. They were life-long Democrats, both when they needed welfare and later when they were making good money, and they were happy to pay taxes to support a system that had helped them when they needed help. My own belief is that everyone who can work should have the opportunity to work, and I think most (not all) people would choose to work at a decent job rather than live on welfare.I think your point about stereotypes on both sides is good. Probably we assume too quickly that conservatives are ignorant narrow-minded Bible thumpers. I’ve known some very smart and good-hearted fiscal conservatives, people who just believed in a particular brand of economics that I don’t agree with. They honestly believed that the key to prosperity comes from minimal government interference in the economy. I think they’re wrong, but I don’t doubt their sincerity. There are even some aspects of social conservatism that I understand. For example I think that stable families by and large are a good thing for children. I don’t happen to think that the parents have to be of different sexes. I can understand the feelings of those who think that abortion is murder. If I thought that, I would be pretty upset about abortion rights. But I don’t think that abortion is murder. I’m not sure that there can a meeting of minds on this issue, but my hope is that on some other issues it’s possible for each side to grant the sincerity of the other and find ways to work together.
It’s a fake Fox meme that Obama is giving people free stuff, and the GOP aren’t. Never mind that the only thing on the GOP agenda is tax cuts for the rich. That counts as “stuff.”
Bravo! I wish you were my mechanic. actually I found a good one when my 1995 jeeps rear-end went out. but I love your sense of right and wrong and morality. You understand that people sometimes need help.
Trusted mechanic and lone cat are reasonable, Clark Kent and dtroutma too. The name callers and blame-throwers on either side are getting old. of course lots of people think I’m not too good too.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
That would be the “Bush tax cuts”, right?
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
Clark, you are getting a little redundant. It was Bill Clinton that repealed Glass Segal, he said it was no longer appropriate. You don’t understand tax rates or their purpose for the levels of income that are taxable. Get over your hate the rich attitude. Many senior citizens depend on dividends to live on. Increasing the tax rate would impact them severely. The 50’s and 60’s tax rates were high but they had lots of avenues for deductions. It’s not as simple as you would make it sound.
chazandru over 11 years ago
The cartoon has the typical partisan slant we see from liberals and conservatives alike. I disagree with the premise, but I understand why this perception exists.In the movie “Dave”, a presidential look a like desperate to make a difference brings in a friend to look at the books in order to save some important benefits for children.We really need to look at where the money is going.I’ve mentioned a friend who is a “regulator” whose office reviews government contracts. That office found ways to save the USA millions in the time she has been with them. She told me just this week of a recent success where her office convinced officials to do things in a way that will save the American people as much as 4 million dollars per year.We need more people doing things like this. There is so much waste in how governments, federal and state, are run that billions could be saved just by cleaning up the regs and reviewing contracts. We need it in our tax laws, our healthcare regs, banking regs, etc etc.Good people with good intentions can accomplish amazing things.Respectfully,C.
nusbickel over 11 years ago
Next comes the Obamacare wedgie. Just take it like a sheep.
TomGn over 11 years ago
I have yet to see a homeless person or someone on welfare start a fortune 500 company
bigdoggy over 11 years ago
@Tomga – Fortune 500 companies don’t pop up overnight, so your comment is pretty much meaningless. I can show you lots of growing businesses, however, that were started by folks who grew up in slums or projects and received either welfare, food stamps or both along the way.
Odon Premium Member over 11 years ago
“Free stuff” is the new mantra from the right.
PlainBill over 11 years ago
Congratulations on your success, and I hope it continues for decades to come.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
I’m a Libertarian (voted for Gary Johnson) but I am also self employed. I’ve worked with small business all my career and I know how difficult it can be. Congrats on your growth.
rockngolfer over 11 years ago
My older brother was a mechanic and a lot of people liked him.But he hated me from the day I was born.His first wife didn’t speak to me for 25 years until she divorced him and apologized to me, and his daughters who are about 49 and 45 have never spoken to me their entire lives.When he died I was not able to go 800 miles to his funeral, but I wouldn’t have walked accross the street to it.
Harrison_Bergeron over 11 years ago
Have you no higher ambition than to be a worthless thief, who uses violence to steal whatever he wants? Loot loot loot, steal steal steal, take take take, force force force. That’s all you parasitic little thugs know how to do.
ConserveGov over 11 years ago
O did get 99% of the Welfare Vote. Not sure what the other 1% were thinking.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Rock, sounds like we had the same “older brother”, a lot of examples of what a scumbag he was, to me, and his own family. But, when he had his stroke, I flew across the country, to help THEM, not “him”. He croaked before I could get there, but I still spent a week helping them, and my mom, “cope”. His life attitude was “The world owes me, I owe nothing to anyone”. That he was a life-long ultra right winger, anti-tax, anti-union, guy, who never worked on anything but government contracts, where he bragged about ripping off the taxpayer, says a lot.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
No, your taking a very simplistic position. When people are in the millions for income, Buffet may have more of a point. I had lots of small business clients that paid in the 36% bracket depending on deductions and state income taxes were above that. I have been very successful at my profession and you should do more research than just quote one comment out of context. Tax preparation and deductions are a progressive, layered and complex individual situation.
lonecat over 11 years ago
I get so tired of weirdo right wingers claiming that all Democrats live on welfare, don’t work, and just want hand-outs. They must know that they’re lying. And yet they do it again and again, even when corrected. Have they no shame?
lonecat over 11 years ago
Yes, of course no one claims that there are no instances of welfare fraud. I don’t see the evidence, however, that cases of fraud account for a large part of the welfare budget. My own family — a couple of generations ago — depended on welfare. My grandparents and parents worked hard to get themselves off welfare, but if they hadn’t had the support for the time they needed it my parents wouldn’t have been able to get the education they used to get themselves good jobs. They were life-long Democrats, both when they needed welfare and later when they were making good money, and they were happy to pay taxes to support a system that had helped them when they needed help. My own belief is that everyone who can work should have the opportunity to work, and I think most (not all) people would choose to work at a decent job rather than live on welfare.I think your point about stereotypes on both sides is good. Probably we assume too quickly that conservatives are ignorant narrow-minded Bible thumpers. I’ve known some very smart and good-hearted fiscal conservatives, people who just believed in a particular brand of economics that I don’t agree with. They honestly believed that the key to prosperity comes from minimal government interference in the economy. I think they’re wrong, but I don’t doubt their sincerity. There are even some aspects of social conservatism that I understand. For example I think that stable families by and large are a good thing for children. I don’t happen to think that the parents have to be of different sexes. I can understand the feelings of those who think that abortion is murder. If I thought that, I would be pretty upset about abortion rights. But I don’t think that abortion is murder. I’m not sure that there can a meeting of minds on this issue, but my hope is that on some other issues it’s possible for each side to grant the sincerity of the other and find ways to work together.
charliekane over 11 years ago
The ‘toon reminds me of the Santa Claus scene from Jacob’s Ladder.
Gypsy8 over 11 years ago
“…..It’s a common story…..”.Me too.
ARodney over 11 years ago
It’s a fake Fox meme that Obama is giving people free stuff, and the GOP aren’t. Never mind that the only thing on the GOP agenda is tax cuts for the rich. That counts as “stuff.”
pam Miner over 11 years ago
Bravo! I wish you were my mechanic. actually I found a good one when my 1995 jeeps rear-end went out. but I love your sense of right and wrong and morality. You understand that people sometimes need help.
pam Miner over 11 years ago
Trusted mechanic and lone cat are reasonable, Clark Kent and dtroutma too. The name callers and blame-throwers on either side are getting old. of course lots of people think I’m not too good too.
DebUSNRet Premium Member over 11 years ago
Yeah, Mike’s always right! Keep ‘em coming! Most liberals are too stupid to know what’s really going on.