Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for October 18, 2012

Boys in gpa: 3.4. Girls in gpa: 3.4, except Danae, who lowered it to a 3.0

Religion & politics.

Guys: I doubt it’s….uhh…..you know what

My reaction to Jeffery in the first panel, Why not? It has been working for Mitt Romney for a while now.

http://youtu.be/k5gr1p_Pp0U i think this should sum things up quite nicely here…

Scary.

I think “Danaeism” crosses L. Ron Hubbard with a university Women’s Studies department.

This also applies to fundamentalist Muslims, as well as “Christians” who believe we were founded as a “Christian” nation, regardless of our founders’ writings.

Decision based evidence making.Can be applied to a multitude of scientific and religious propositions.

Don’t you Danae!. All the reasoning of a religious idiot. and then imposed on the rest of us.

don’t you just love religions! lol Wiley is good.

don’t you love Danae? lol

Actually, they also call that “Mainstream”.

Nope, she has already been tapped by Al Gore.

Scientific community can be intellectually dishonest also. Internal politics discriminates against some scientific research and even results. It has gotten to the point where we really cannot trust politics, business, science, nor religion. “Facts” are nebulous things that a majority will agree to…mainstream.

zoidknight: history class has nothing to do with it! Try READING! Find the words God, Jesus or Christian in our Declaration or Constitution. Also see Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Baptists, who were worried about this country taking sides in religious conflicts, and establishing a national religion. Also look at the writings of Adams to the Barbary pirates regarding the US official position on religion. I grew up Catholic, and NONE of this was taught in history class. I had to get beyond that insular world to find these things out. I also remember when JFK was running and had to give a speech that he would NOT take orders from Rome! The Pat Robertsons and Tony Perkinses of this world want to take US back to a pre-colonial time where the church decided all issues, including whether a different denomination could even be allowed in a particular colony! I guess youy were home schooled?

Since virtually all science in this country is government funded, mainstream science is government controlled. Examples of junk science that have gone mainstream are: global warming hypothesis; lipid hypothesis for heart disease; fluoride as safe cavity preventive (hint fluoride is a potent neurotoxin); mercury as a safe ingredient for dental fillings (hint mercury is a potent neurotoxin); root canals as a safe treatment (what is with dentists anyway?); and mathematical (Keynesian or Chicago school for example) economics as having any relationship with reality.

That should be: …you can trust in that and try to keep its influence out of government.

Alas, science cherry picks science to make scientific points.

Man Made Global Warming Unmasked!

If Danae were older, she and L. Ron Hubbard would make an interesting couple

Everyone “cherry picks” facts – be it scientific, religious, or political. Just reading some of the comments here, reflects cherry picking at its apex of absurdity.Some of our commentators avoid factoids entirely and go straight for asininity , obfuscation and downright lying.

@ Spamgaard You can add Evolution Theory to that list. To quote Sir Arthur Keith in his forward to the 100th anniversary edition of Origin of the Species by Charles Darwin. “Evolution is unproved and unprovable. We believe it because the only alternative is special creation and that is unthinkable.” Sounds like denial to me.

Anyone who investigates evolution soon discovers there is no evidence to support it, and a lot of fraud in the evidence for it [ex. Piltdown Man, revealed to be a hoax in 1953]. Darwin admitted “Millions” of missing links would have to be found in the fossil record to prove the accuracy of his theories. [paraphrased from a longer statement in Darwin’s works]

Two quotes on that: “Unfortunately for his theory, despite hundreds of millions spent on searching for fossils worldwide for more than a century, scientists have failed to locate a single missing link out of the millions that must exist if the theory of evolution is to be vindicated.” – Grant R Jeffery

“There are gaps in the fossil graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms, but where there is nothing whatsoever. No paleontologist … denies that this is so. It is simply fact.” David Berlinsky

I’ll close with this statement by Dr Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History who gave a keynote address in 1981 at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. He said: “One morning I woke up and … it struck me that I had been working on this stuff for 20 years and there was not one thing I knew about it. That’s quite a shock to learn that one can be mislead so long … I’ve tried putting a simple question to various people: ‘Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing, any one thing that’s true?’ I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I go was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got was silence there for a long time and eventually one person said, ’I do know one thing – it ought not to be taught in high school.” This quote can be found verbatim in the record of his speech, look it up.

@saywhatwhat

Regarding “Democracy can’t happen without politics.”: Consider that democracy is actually a religion inculcated (propagandized) into our children by public (government) schools. See Hoppe’s “Democracy the God that Failed”; Google for free pdf or epub download.

You said with disdain, “Modern corporate business is just about profit .” Unless government distorts the market with bailouts, taxes, regulations, grants of monopolies, patents, etc., the only way to make a profit in the free market is by serving the consumer with the best products at the best prices. Note how the relatively free markets of computers and smartphones have produced better and better products at lower prices. Apple winning that huge patent lawsuit against Samsung will tend to reverse this trend. On the other hand, look at education and health care. Both have seen huge increases in cost with corresponding decrease in quality. It’s not a coincidence that both health care and education are completely controlled by government.

I join you in your disdain of corporations that have used government influence to hinder competition or use other methods of keeping them in business and increase profits. The TARP bailouts kept inefficient businesses solvent while preventing new and better businesses from gaining market share. The result is the lowering of standard of living for most people. However, I am in awe of those businesses that make a profit by serving the consumer. These businesses are fighting against the tide of corporatism and are improving everyone’s standard of living.

Every time an article on global warming appears the cherry pickers come out in force.

“. . . she reminds me of several bosses, owners and supervisors I’ve had . . .”Aren’t most supervisors, bosses, etc., a pain? I’ve figured that to be a boss, you have to be willing to step on toes (and fingers, and whatever else).

I think I’m gonna move along away from Danae and hope I don’t get hurt. . . .

lawsey, lawsey, I’ve seen plenty of PBS specials with predetermined outcomes. I switch off every time the phrase ‘’Is this…?’’ is spoken with a concerned voice. ‘’Is this…?’’ has become the modern teaser don’t turn that dial of the millnm.!

Wiley’s gonna be p*ssed

The term is ‘right wing reactionary’. And they want it taught in schools as science, just like Danae.

If you say something enough times it must be true

One of the greatest elements of “intellectual dishonesty”, is the fact that most of the “ethics and morals” derived from the Old Testament that drive the New, and all the offshoots of “bible religions”, came from older cultures, just as the mythology of the creation, the flood, and other tales did. Many tales from Asia, such as Buddhist philosophies that Jesus accepted and taught, are also part of “cultures”. Belief in the “God of Abraham” is not a requirement for a moral philosophy. THAT is why the Declaration of Independence refers to the laws of NATURE, and “nature’s god”, and the Constitution says “NO religious test shall EVER be required”. Yes, the founders WERE worried about ethics and morals, but more worried about “religion” dominating life, and destroying “democracy” as had happened with the persecution FROM THE CHURCH, that drove their ancestors from Europe.

Danae’s “boys vs girls” or “us vs them” argument isn’t new at all, it’s merely what happens when absolute power, corrupts absolutely.

We do indeed more “intellectual honesty”.

@dtroutma

You said, "…the founders WERE …more worried about … destroying “democracy …” Actually the founders were well acquainted with the fact that democracy always degenerates into a mob rule totalitarianism in which the majority non-productive members of society steal from the more productive members of society. The end result is always the destruction of civilized society and the impoverishment of most of the population. That is why the founders specifically attempted to create a republic rather than a democracy. Unfortunately, they failed; we have become a democracy; the inevitable fall into chaos and impoverishment is well on its way.

Thanks for perpetuating the myth though.

Well said !

Gosh, I thought the word was “prostitution.”

So, Danae is a Rethuglican. We knew this…

Hey, Sturmmi14! Why don’t you start your own religion? It might be fun! ;-)

I appreciated the comments regarding creation myths. Anyone interested refer to the book The Sins of Scripture by Episcopalian Archbishop (now retired) Spong. When someone turns off PBS for “Is this”, I hope they also turn off FOX for “Some Say”. And if the “Liberal Media” is so “liberal”, why is Doonesberry relegated to the editorial page or censored so often?

Reaction: Political: Republicans are said to be anti-science, but in truth left and right both reject any “science” they don’t agree with.Religion and academia: Religions don’t even pretend to be based upon scientific investigations, so Danae’s request doesn’t really make sense. Religion in its intellectual form, like the non-scientific areas of academia, relies upon creatively manipulating words to support its preferred conclusions.Science: Science automatically gets respect because it’s supposed to be about “facts”, and because we are in general too scientifically illiterate to refute its findings. I can read Hawking’s popular work and sort of understand it, but I can’t possibly intelligently argue about it. I can however easily comprehend and argue about pretty much anything that comes out of the liberal arts field. As time has gone on, however, that mask of supposed “disinterested research” has worn thin, and a lot of people no longer automatically accept something just because a “scientist” says it. Certainly anything to do with “the environment” is incredibly politicized. My statement is not intended in any way to give cover to people who reject basc biology and geology.

Gotta love that kid!!

CNN policy is that “mainstream Protestantism” refers to ultra-fundamentalists, not Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc. I got this tidbit from a former employee who did the captioning.

Think what you will; Greenland is becoming more green, at an alarming rate. I wouldn’t look at oceanfront real estate as a long-term investment right now.

By Associated Press, Updated: Friday, October 19, 1:26 AMAP ATLANTA — Having denounced evolution as a lie “straight from the pit of hell,” Republican Rep. Paul Broun has won himself a new political opponent: Charles Darwin.

The ultraconservative congressman, whose district includes the University of Georgia, told a Baptist church last month that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory were lies spread by scientists out to erode people’s faith in Jesus Christ. He also claimed the Earth is roughly 9,000 years old, a view of some literal interpretations of the Bible.

.Now scientists are questioning whether Broun, a medical doctor and Baptist from Athens, should serve on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee if he rejects widely accepted scientific ideas.

@Night-Gaunt49

I’m sorry; I’ve insulted your religion. Of course, the implications of blasphemy against the hundreds of other religions and cults that have existed throughout the ages are also dire. Global warming is junk science catering to former Marxists who craved getting back power after the fall of former Soviet Union.

Keynesianism works in the short run to enrich the ruling elites while allowing politicians to buy off voters. Keynes said “we are all dead in the long run.” However, we are not dead; we are living Keynes’s long-run nightmare, starting with the New Deal, that has destroyed the wealth of this great country. All that awaits us is more war and increasing poverty. It does not matter which sociopath win the upcoming election.

When did journalism get into Danae’s world scheme?

Well, what do you know; the Flying Spaghetti Monster is named Danae.