If the republicans had come up with ANY realistic alternative to the ACA, their attacks on it’s “ills” might have been believable. All they had was, “Get rid of it now and we’ll come up with something else at some time in the future.”
Technically, the court did NOT vote to uphold the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare, which I’m sure President Barack is pleased to have his name associated with).
In a court dominated 6-3 by conservatives, liberal Steven Breyer knew he did not have the liberal votes to uphold the ACA (Obamacare) on the merits.
Knowing that pragmatic conservatives knew that yanking healthcare away from 31 million Americans in the middle of a pandemic would cause a Democratic landslide in the 2022 midterms that would empower PROgressives to eliminate the filibuster, add DC and Puerto Rico as states and — most threatening to conservative justices — expand the court and add PROgressive judges, Breyer was able to persuade enough pragmatic conservatives to ignore the core issue and dismiss on the technicality of standing.
Even Clarence Thomas, who voted twice before to kill Obamacare, was not willing to jeopardize his future power by killing Obamacare.
The conservatives struck out.
Strike one: 5 to 4
Strike two: 6 to 3
Strike three: 7 to 2
Does anyone think the conservatives are stupid enough to try this again?
Repubs don’t care if “those undeserving people” don’t have healthcare and they especially don’t want Obama to receive the credit he deserves for getting this done. Thank you Barack Obama for helping people get healthcare coverage!
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In the long game of judicial politics, jurists like Roberts and Thomas care a lot more about concepts like standing than most legal commenters do. (And the standing argument was pushed heavily by a few conservative academics.) Roberts in particular cared a lot more about the standing argument than the substantive legal issues. The oral argument in the case made clear that the challenge would fail, and Roberts assigned the case to Breyer to assure that he would bring the other liberal justices along, preventing a splintered decision that wouldn’t set the kind of precedent he wanted.
Interestingly enough this was a case of the republicans screwing themselves. In one of their earlier attempts at trying to kill healthcare for the masses, they got rid of the financial burden of “paying if you don’t have some type of health coverage” , the court says now that all those states trying to get rid coverage that filed to join this suit have no standing because they were not affected by the law. idea It turns out that to be able to claim “injury”, the A.C.A. should have caused some type of financial loss to someone within the states suing for redress – but, since the republicans removed that tiny little problem in an earlier suit, they now have no standing going forward.
I have no idea how the GOP is going to work around this little “Catch-22” of their own devising. I have no doubt, however, that they’ll come up with SOMETHING – all those undeserving people getting healthcare will eat away at their souls (or, what passes for it in most cases).
Gop always demands recounts, useless investigations, just to stall and deflect! They have never come up with a useful plan, that is in favor for WE the PEOPLE, it’s always in their interest, their agendas, deceit and lies!
The Supreme Court is suppose to interpret the validity of a law based upon the constitution. Let’s not forget the Barack Obama studied and taught “Constitutional Law”.
No doubt trump would like to change the meaning of “uphold” to “reject”. His Sharpie® can change the trajectory of storms.. if only, he was still president.
The Democrats need to bring back the tax penalties to those who refuse purchase health insurance despite the law compelling them to do so. Make the penalties retroactive back to 2017 and assess an interest charge.
Where were the OBSERVERS? There were BRIEFS left under a table! Don’t they deliberate behind CLOSED DOORS? It was rigged, they ACTUALLY voted 7-2 to scrap the ACA. STOP THE STEAL!!!/s
RAGs almost 3 years ago
If the republicans had come up with ANY realistic alternative to the ACA, their attacks on it’s “ills” might have been believable. All they had was, “Get rid of it now and we’ll come up with something else at some time in the future.”
Daeder almost 3 years ago
Republicans now claim that the Supreme Court has been stolen and replaced by Jewish android look-alikes!
/s
DD Wiz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Technically, the court did NOT vote to uphold the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare, which I’m sure President Barack is pleased to have his name associated with).
In a court dominated 6-3 by conservatives, liberal Steven Breyer knew he did not have the liberal votes to uphold the ACA (Obamacare) on the merits.
Knowing that pragmatic conservatives knew that yanking healthcare away from 31 million Americans in the middle of a pandemic would cause a Democratic landslide in the 2022 midterms that would empower PROgressives to eliminate the filibuster, add DC and Puerto Rico as states and — most threatening to conservative justices — expand the court and add PROgressive judges, Breyer was able to persuade enough pragmatic conservatives to ignore the core issue and dismiss on the technicality of standing.
Even Clarence Thomas, who voted twice before to kill Obamacare, was not willing to jeopardize his future power by killing Obamacare.
The conservatives struck out.
Strike one: 5 to 4
Strike two: 6 to 3
Strike three: 7 to 2
Does anyone think the conservatives are stupid enough to try this again?
Coopersdad almost 3 years ago
Repubs don’t care if “those undeserving people” don’t have healthcare and they especially don’t want Obama to receive the credit he deserves for getting this done. Thank you Barack Obama for helping people get healthcare coverage!
Judge Magney almost 3 years ago
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In the long game of judicial politics, jurists like Roberts and Thomas care a lot more about concepts like standing than most legal commenters do. (And the standing argument was pushed heavily by a few conservative academics.) Roberts in particular cared a lot more about the standing argument than the substantive legal issues. The oral argument in the case made clear that the challenge would fail, and Roberts assigned the case to Breyer to assure that he would bring the other liberal justices along, preventing a splintered decision that wouldn’t set the kind of precedent he wanted.
Patjade almost 3 years ago
Slapped down again and again.
wellis1947 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Interestingly enough this was a case of the republicans screwing themselves. In one of their earlier attempts at trying to kill healthcare for the masses, they got rid of the financial burden of “paying if you don’t have some type of health coverage” , the court says now that all those states trying to get rid coverage that filed to join this suit have no standing because they were not affected by the law. idea It turns out that to be able to claim “injury”, the A.C.A. should have caused some type of financial loss to someone within the states suing for redress – but, since the republicans removed that tiny little problem in an earlier suit, they now have no standing going forward.
I have no idea how the GOP is going to work around this little “Catch-22” of their own devising. I have no doubt, however, that they’ll come up with SOMETHING – all those undeserving people getting healthcare will eat away at their souls (or, what passes for it in most cases).
scote1379 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
And Moscow Mitch worked so Hard to stack the SCOTUS !
djtenltd almost 3 years ago
And I wonder who’s leading the charge on that? (As if we didn’t know).
FreyjaRN Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Very nicely done, sir!
jessie d. Premium Member almost 3 years ago
all the while, being no count themselves.
Màiri almost 3 years ago
Given that it’s a huge cash cow for the rich, why wouldn’t SCROTUS support it?
piper_gilbert almost 3 years ago
I would have loved to have seen Trump’s reaction especially since two of his SCOTUS picks voted to uphold Obamacare.
piper_gilbert almost 3 years ago
I would have loved to have seen Trump’s reaction especially since two of his SCOTUS picks voted to uphold Obamacare.
More Coffee Please! Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Trumplicans will never be satisfied with anything that doesn’t go their way. Pathetic little twerps, all of them…
Zebrastripes almost 3 years ago
Gop always demands recounts, useless investigations, just to stall and deflect! They have never come up with a useful plan, that is in favor for WE the PEOPLE, it’s always in their interest, their agendas, deceit and lies!
The Nodding Head almost 3 years ago
My Pillow guy has proof. Once presented, the Supreme Court will before the end of summer overturn the Supreme Court’s erroneous count.
Tomscomics70 almost 3 years ago
The Supreme Court is suppose to interpret the validity of a law based upon the constitution. Let’s not forget the Barack Obama studied and taught “Constitutional Law”.
bobniwri Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Did a dead Judge vote twice?
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I wouldn’t put it past them for a nanosecond!!!
Michael G. almost 3 years ago
We wuz robbed! – The Loyal Opposition
For a Just and Peaceful World almost 3 years ago
Obama 1, Trump 0. LEWSER
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
One republican lie down, a hundred million to go.
preacherman almost 3 years ago
The Repubs will need an investigation into alleged SCOTUS corruption.
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 3 years ago
No doubt trump would like to change the meaning of “uphold” to “reject”. His Sharpie® can change the trajectory of storms.. if only, he was still president.
Kip Williams almost 3 years ago
“I Like Beer” guy voted with a fake ID.
gcottay almost 3 years ago
In real life Trumpublicans are preparing for an authoritarian state in which the SCOTUS can be easily used or ignored.
WestNYC Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The Democrats need to bring back the tax penalties to those who refuse purchase health insurance despite the law compelling them to do so. Make the penalties retroactive back to 2017 and assess an interest charge.
charliekane almost 3 years ago
Rigged by space lasers fired from the basement of a canibal pedophile pizza shop!
Bookworm almost 3 years ago
Where were the OBSERVERS? There were BRIEFS left under a table! Don’t they deliberate behind CLOSED DOORS? It was rigged, they ACTUALLY voted 7-2 to scrap the ACA. STOP THE STEAL!!! /s
Kurtass Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Isn’t that the same margin in which Roe vs Wade was settled?
mwksix almost 3 years ago
The “Cyber-Ninjas” have seized the Supreme Court ballots and taken them off-site…
MuddyUSA Premium Member almost 3 years ago
AND the left skewered DJT for trying to make the Supreme Court right wing!
casonia2 almost 3 years ago
Hilarious, in a kind of tragic way. Good job Mr. Bennett!
ferddo almost 3 years ago
GQPs are ready to fire SCOTUS justices… possibly “visit” the Supreme Court Building…
willie_mctell almost 3 years ago
I can just imagine Supreme Court Justices submitting to an audit.
ncorgbl almost 3 years ago
Thank you John McCain.
eideard almost 3 years ago
One more vote and Trump runs out of fingers after that!
Ammo is on a break Premium Member almost 3 years ago
BUT BUT BUT, Barrett was suppose to throw ACA out. Must be saving her for a rainy day or a 2nd Amendment Case to settle it once and for all.