I sure would love to see more people “take these things to heart”. As citizens of the Earth, we need to help our fellow citizens avoid spreading this horrible virus.
As an old geezer, I was able to get my second dose of Pfizer completed more than six weeks ago. Now I feel like Superman.
I have my CDC card (like the ones that now seem to be getting counterfeited with forgeries being sold online except mine is real) and I do have a smartphone, but I have no idea how to get proof of my vaccination since it was at a mass vaccination site to get the kind of documentation for a digital app that I have no idea how to use.
Not everyone has a smartphone and even many of us who do are not sure how to obtain the digital evidence or how the whole thing works.
I do think it is right to require evidence of vaccination for some activities, but it has to be rolled out in such a way that it is workable for those who either do not have smartphones or are not sure how to get the documentation onto one.
Further, vaccination passports only become feasible when everyone who wants a vaccination has been able to get one and the only ones remaining unvaccinated are those who chose not to get the shot.
It is way too premature to be talking about digital vaccination passports, and there must be non-digital alternatives.
The process must be accessible in terms of both getting the shots and having usable access to the process.
You’ll notice the ONLY people objecting to the “use” of a "Vaccine Passport are republicans – does anyone have a clue about anything that the republicans are “FOR”?
I had mine already a few months ago but I’m considered a first responder. Second, I’m 62 and far from considering myself an “old geezer”. I keep myself trim and fit by going to the gym when I can, doing some pushups in the morning, and practicing martial arts. You probably stay at home a lot DD but I’m a very active man. Truly no shot at you, but I made a vow to myself about 40 years ago that I was going to keep myself fit. However it’s great that you feel like Clark Kent’s alias! LOL!! And although your may not be in any condition for martial arts, Tai Chi does wonders especially for older adults! And yes, smart phones can be very challenging because they’re mini computers. But also, most people do not take the time to read the instruction booklets. That would eliminate a lot of problems. And about obtaining digital evidence, all smart phones have Google so that could be a start right there. I don’t know about iPhones but I would imagination they have their own search engines.
I ordered the plastic cover too for everyone in the family. Cheap on Amazon. Took a pic on cell and the real one goes with my important papers. I’m sure there will be booster shots because they’re mostly effective a bit past 6 months or so….
Huh, only terrible people get the shots: those who are aware of the world around them (the Woke), those who try not to insult their neighbours (the Politically Correct), those who try to be inclusive of all Americans (the Social Justice Warriors), and those who support Science and Knowledge (the Lberals). Honestly, I don’t know what America is becoming.
You have a drivers license so you can drive and produce it upon demand to the authorities.
In many areas, you need a hunting license for deer season or a fishing license.
You have to produce a transcript to prove you have a high school or other degree when applying for jobs.
To practice Medicine you need a medical license.
You have to be 21 years old and be able to prove it to buy alcohol.
You have to be 17 and prove it to see an R rated movie.
Many companies require I.D. badges or lanyards be worn while at work.
So what is the big “F”-ing deal about some businesses/organizations wanting you to prove you have been vaccinated against Covid and the Government providing a standardized document stating that fact.
Your selfishness is not more important than I and my families health.
For years the WHO has issued yellow passport size booklets where vaccinations against malaria, cholera, etc. are recorded. This is used for travel to areas where infectious diseases are a risk.Unfortunately there are too many people in this country suffering from a serious infectious disease, ignorance, and there is no passport for that.
Vaccines as well as other measures to contain the spread of COVID should have been instituted with no thought by all U.S. citizens as a way to be part of the community.
My wife and I received both Moderna shots. First one Feb. 6, 2021, second one March 8.Our Primary care doctor set it all up with the hospital. We both have the white verification card. The whole process was completed in a very professional manner. I hope every person receives the shots!
My Oregon Drivers License identifies me as an organ donor (at my age I doubt that anyone will take advantage of that offer) and a Vet. I am sure that it could be used to a shot record also.
I think it’s safe to say that only Americans of above average intelligence, education, and experience will become “Vaccine Passport” carrying individuals as a matter of routine, i.e., we do what needs to be done regardless of what our family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, or acquaintances think of our actions. Only dim-witted, ignorant, and gullible individuals fret when it comes to taking personal responsibility.
I’ve seen leftists on social media advocating that people be denied employment if they don’t have such a vaccine passport. I think you can understand why these passports are getting heat now.
There is more to this “vaccine passport” thing than one might think at first glance. Russell Brand has a Youtube video in which he ponders the tendency of government, in alliance with Big Tech, to acquire and maintain every possible scrap of personal data. The drive for a vaccine passport will inevitably involve the amassing of health data into existing databases that already constitute an enormous invasion of privacy.
I expect there would be benefits to a vaccine passport, but the hijacking of this idea to facilitate further expansion of the national security state needs to also be considered.
While I support vaccines 100%, I do not support Cocavan11’s comment about intelligence. Some smart people are afraid. Take the Black Americans who were denied treatment in the Tuskegee project. They fear medical manipulation and rightly so. And there are smart but very cautious people who just aren’t sure if it works yet. Remember that these vaccines did not go through years of trials as most do. I have an ex-friend like that. I won’t hang out with someone who could potentially make me a carrier, even though I have the vaccine, until we know more about that. I’d rather have vaccine side effects that COVID which could be deadly! Finally, there are others who CAN’T be vaccinated but wish to due to allergic reactions. I know the agony they feel because I have a friend in that position. But you are right, there are the crazies, the ones you describe, who believe that the vaccine has microchips in it to trace you and other nonsense. I happen to know one of them and he has always been rather dull mentally. I pray there are very few of those fools so we can reach herd immunity.
Let your doctor or regular medical provider know you’ve been vaccinated. They might want to copy your vaccine passport for your medical records or upload the data into your chart at their office. I also see a specialist two weeks after my last vaccine, so I will let them have my data also… Better to be safe than sorry. :-)
Anyone that wants to travel internationally for at least the next few years will have vaccination passports. Most airlines are considering making it mandatory to fly. So, anyone who is against having one, will not be able to fly or travel internationally, regardless of how they vote.
And for those skeptical about vaccines, ask them how many people they’ve known with polio or have had small pox. Yes, vaccines work, especially back when it was easier to make common sense mandatory. Meaning no religious exemptions for school children. They vaccinated all the kids at my mother’s school against polio, at the school.
When I was a kid, you couldn’t start to school until you got a smallpox vaccination. No religious or political nut jobs even thought about protesting.To travel overseas, (by ship then) you had to have a smallpox vaccination, among some others. When I went into the Army in 1960, another smallpox vaccination. Smallpox was completely wiped out and is believed to be extinct.
To all of you that think a “Vaccine Passport” is a great thing to require in order to do certain things in America. Please read a history book written before 1980. Then, look up what ever totalitarian regime has required to do certain thing with their country. You will see they all require that you carry “papers.” The vaccine passport, even if just digital, is the requirement to carry “papers.” According to dementia china joe, they will be required to ride on public transportation, to cross state lines, to go to sporting events, to fly on airplanes, to openly eat in restaurants, and any other activity where more than two people will gather. Of course, for those that have a socialist bent, this is ok. But, to those that believe in individual freedom, this is just one more step toward fascism, totalitarianism, socialism, and communism. Just remember what Benjamin Franklin once said: “Those that will give up liberty for a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Concretionist over 2 years ago
I see absolutely NOTHING here that will attract the people who need to be attracted.
Coopersdad over 2 years ago
I sure would love to see more people “take these things to heart”. As citizens of the Earth, we need to help our fellow citizens avoid spreading this horrible virus.
DD Wiz Premium Member over 2 years ago
As an old geezer, I was able to get my second dose of Pfizer completed more than six weeks ago. Now I feel like Superman.
I have my CDC card (like the ones that now seem to be getting counterfeited with forgeries being sold online except mine is real) and I do have a smartphone, but I have no idea how to get proof of my vaccination since it was at a mass vaccination site to get the kind of documentation for a digital app that I have no idea how to use.
Not everyone has a smartphone and even many of us who do are not sure how to obtain the digital evidence or how the whole thing works.
I do think it is right to require evidence of vaccination for some activities, but it has to be rolled out in such a way that it is workable for those who either do not have smartphones or are not sure how to get the documentation onto one.
Further, vaccination passports only become feasible when everyone who wants a vaccination has been able to get one and the only ones remaining unvaccinated are those who chose not to get the shot.
It is way too premature to be talking about digital vaccination passports, and there must be non-digital alternatives.
The process must be accessible in terms of both getting the shots and having usable access to the process.
Daeder over 2 years ago
Can I get a stamp for “putting the safety of my community before my own immediate wants”?
shakeswilly over 2 years ago
Republicans feel excluded
wellis1947 Premium Member over 2 years ago
You’ll notice the ONLY people objecting to the “use” of a "Vaccine Passport are republicans – does anyone have a clue about anything that the republicans are “FOR”?
sevaar777 over 2 years ago
A passport I doubt many rethugicans will carry. It’s kinda not in their nature.
djtenltd over 2 years ago
I had mine already a few months ago but I’m considered a first responder. Second, I’m 62 and far from considering myself an “old geezer”. I keep myself trim and fit by going to the gym when I can, doing some pushups in the morning, and practicing martial arts. You probably stay at home a lot DD but I’m a very active man. Truly no shot at you, but I made a vow to myself about 40 years ago that I was going to keep myself fit. However it’s great that you feel like Clark Kent’s alias! LOL!! And although your may not be in any condition for martial arts, Tai Chi does wonders especially for older adults! And yes, smart phones can be very challenging because they’re mini computers. But also, most people do not take the time to read the instruction booklets. That would eliminate a lot of problems. And about obtaining digital evidence, all smart phones have Google so that could be a start right there. I don’t know about iPhones but I would imagination they have their own search engines.
gopher gofer over 2 years ago
someone needs to forward this to clueless terry preta gardens…
Zebrastripes over 2 years ago
I ordered the plastic cover too for everyone in the family. Cheap on Amazon. Took a pic on cell and the real one goes with my important papers. I’m sure there will be booster shots because they’re mostly effective a bit past 6 months or so….
Masterskrain Premium Member over 2 years ago
And therefore the Qpublicans HATE it, since they are FIRMLY AGAINST any of those virtues!
NeoconMan over 2 years ago
Huh, only terrible people get the shots: those who are aware of the world around them (the Woke), those who try not to insult their neighbours (the Politically Correct), those who try to be inclusive of all Americans (the Social Justice Warriors), and those who support Science and Knowledge (the Lberals). Honestly, I don’t know what America is becoming.
rs0204 Premium Member over 2 years ago
You have a drivers license so you can drive and produce it upon demand to the authorities.
In many areas, you need a hunting license for deer season or a fishing license.
You have to produce a transcript to prove you have a high school or other degree when applying for jobs.
To practice Medicine you need a medical license.
You have to be 21 years old and be able to prove it to buy alcohol.
You have to be 17 and prove it to see an R rated movie.
Many companies require I.D. badges or lanyards be worn while at work.
So what is the big “F”-ing deal about some businesses/organizations wanting you to prove you have been vaccinated against Covid and the Government providing a standardized document stating that fact.
Your selfishness is not more important than I and my families health.
eclairewl Premium Member over 2 years ago
For years the WHO has issued yellow passport size booklets where vaccinations against malaria, cholera, etc. are recorded. This is used for travel to areas where infectious diseases are a risk.Unfortunately there are too many people in this country suffering from a serious infectious disease, ignorance, and there is no passport for that.
mourdac Premium Member over 2 years ago
Vaccines as well as other measures to contain the spread of COVID should have been instituted with no thought by all U.S. citizens as a way to be part of the community.
William Bednar Premium Member over 2 years ago
I can just see the GOP having a field day with this!
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 2 years ago
My wife and I received both Moderna shots. First one Feb. 6, 2021, second one March 8.Our Primary care doctor set it all up with the hospital. We both have the white verification card. The whole process was completed in a very professional manner. I hope every person receives the shots!
brwydave Premium Member over 2 years ago
My Oregon Drivers License identifies me as an organ donor (at my age I doubt that anyone will take advantage of that offer) and a Vet. I am sure that it could be used to a shot record also.
cocavan11 over 2 years ago
I think it’s safe to say that only Americans of above average intelligence, education, and experience will become “Vaccine Passport” carrying individuals as a matter of routine, i.e., we do what needs to be done regardless of what our family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, or acquaintances think of our actions. Only dim-witted, ignorant, and gullible individuals fret when it comes to taking personal responsibility.
Ironhold over 2 years ago
I’ve seen leftists on social media advocating that people be denied employment if they don’t have such a vaccine passport. I think you can understand why these passports are getting heat now.
Ally2005 over 2 years ago
The Qruplicons aren’t interested in a Vaccine Passport or any of those stamps.
Cerabooge over 2 years ago
There is more to this “vaccine passport” thing than one might think at first glance. Russell Brand has a Youtube video in which he ponders the tendency of government, in alliance with Big Tech, to acquire and maintain every possible scrap of personal data. The drive for a vaccine passport will inevitably involve the amassing of health data into existing databases that already constitute an enormous invasion of privacy.
I expect there would be benefits to a vaccine passport, but the hijacking of this idea to facilitate further expansion of the national security state needs to also be considered.
Drbarb71 Premium Member over 2 years ago
While I support vaccines 100%, I do not support Cocavan11’s comment about intelligence. Some smart people are afraid. Take the Black Americans who were denied treatment in the Tuskegee project. They fear medical manipulation and rightly so. And there are smart but very cautious people who just aren’t sure if it works yet. Remember that these vaccines did not go through years of trials as most do. I have an ex-friend like that. I won’t hang out with someone who could potentially make me a carrier, even though I have the vaccine, until we know more about that. I’d rather have vaccine side effects that COVID which could be deadly! Finally, there are others who CAN’T be vaccinated but wish to due to allergic reactions. I know the agony they feel because I have a friend in that position. But you are right, there are the crazies, the ones you describe, who believe that the vaccine has microchips in it to trace you and other nonsense. I happen to know one of them and he has always been rather dull mentally. I pray there are very few of those fools so we can reach herd immunity.
HappyDog/ᵀʳʸ ᴮᵒᶻᵒ ⁴ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠᵘⁿ ᵒᶠ ᶦᵗ Premium Member over 2 years ago
Is proof of having a pandemic flu inoculation really much different than passing a drug test or having a clean criminal record?
Radish the wordsmith Premium Member over 2 years ago
Poll shows vast majority of Republicans trust Trump for medical advice over CDC, Biden and Fauci
At least 66 per cent of Republicans say they trust the former president, who suggested injecting disinfectants could cure Covid-19, for medical advice
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-covid-medical-advice-republicans-b1829784.html
Anti science Republicans who trust a lying psychopath who defied every rule of Public Health and killed 500,000 Americans are totally insane.
Republicans should not be allowed to hold office until they can pass a competency test.
Radish the wordsmith Premium Member over 2 years ago
Trump hosts maskless campaign event for Sarah Huckabee Sanders as critics note lack of diversity
Critics note there isn’t one mask in sight in photos the former White House press secretary posted to her Twitter page from a weekend fundraiser
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/sarah-huckabee-sanders-trump-twitter-b1829624.html
Apparently Republicans are totally perverse.
JenSolo02 over 2 years ago
I get my second dose on Wednesday! Yay! I hear I’ll have a sore arm and might feel “fluey” for a day or so. I had no side effects after the first jab.
JenSolo02 over 2 years ago
Let your doctor or regular medical provider know you’ve been vaccinated. They might want to copy your vaccine passport for your medical records or upload the data into your chart at their office. I also see a specialist two weeks after my last vaccine, so I will let them have my data also… Better to be safe than sorry. :-)
GiantShetlandPony over 2 years ago
Anyone that wants to travel internationally for at least the next few years will have vaccination passports. Most airlines are considering making it mandatory to fly. So, anyone who is against having one, will not be able to fly or travel internationally, regardless of how they vote.
And for those skeptical about vaccines, ask them how many people they’ve known with polio or have had small pox. Yes, vaccines work, especially back when it was easier to make common sense mandatory. Meaning no religious exemptions for school children. They vaccinated all the kids at my mother’s school against polio, at the school.
Scoutmaster77 over 2 years ago
Dude, you’re talking about Americans here. No way!
DEACON FRED over 2 years ago
This is one that all free thinking Americans can proudly relate to.
JeanMeslier over 2 years ago
When I was a kid, you couldn’t start to school until you got a smallpox vaccination. No religious or political nut jobs even thought about protesting.To travel overseas, (by ship then) you had to have a smallpox vaccination, among some others. When I went into the Army in 1960, another smallpox vaccination. Smallpox was completely wiped out and is believed to be extinct.
artegal over 2 years ago
And nowhere on there do I see “Government Mandates.”
asndad1948 over 2 years ago
To all of you that think a “Vaccine Passport” is a great thing to require in order to do certain things in America. Please read a history book written before 1980. Then, look up what ever totalitarian regime has required to do certain thing with their country. You will see they all require that you carry “papers.” The vaccine passport, even if just digital, is the requirement to carry “papers.” According to dementia china joe, they will be required to ride on public transportation, to cross state lines, to go to sporting events, to fly on airplanes, to openly eat in restaurants, and any other activity where more than two people will gather. Of course, for those that have a socialist bent, this is ok. But, to those that believe in individual freedom, this is just one more step toward fascism, totalitarianism, socialism, and communism. Just remember what Benjamin Franklin once said: “Those that will give up liberty for a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”