New proposal: if enough states agree — let’s say 75% — a state or states can be expelled from the Union.
And the Dems wanted to make Cali into 5 states.
Holy mangled quotation! That’s why we have to pay tackses.
They did secede. Then you conquered them and forced them back in because you wanted them. All’s well that ends well.
Parody of ”Deep in the Heart of Texas”
The IRS can cause distress / Deep in its claim of Taxes
They will pursue till what is due / Deep in its claim of Taxes
Is paid in full and then might toll / Deep in its claim of Taxes
A penalty they will decree / Deep in its claim of Taxes
You might cry foul but they will growl / Deep in its claim of Taxes
To resist this fee’s futility / Deep in its claim of Taxes
You’ll waste your breath and flirt with death / Deep in its claim of Taxes
That cliche phrase might end your days / Deep in its claim of Taxes
An epitaphic and pithy graphic / Deep in its claim of Taxes
Upon your ‘stone, your corpse now prone / Deep due to defying Taxes
Writ: “Sure is Tax and Death, As Wise Men Saith” /
Deep ‘neath the crush of Taxes.
Taxes?! not if you have an offshore account, a good accountant and a good lawyer.
Well, the Civil war did NOT settle whether states can secede. The civil war made sure that the states that stayed in the Union did not have slavery. It was enforced militarily, States can obviously still secede. The states formed the union and can leave the union. Enough states could get together and dissolve the country by forming new unions.
The federal government did not create the states. The states created the federal government.
California has been talking a lot about secession. I vote yes for that! Any state that wants to secede should do so. As long as the people agree.
Now, that said, it would be better to keep our union together, as long as it defends the individual rights of persons and does not continue to grow into the oppressive technocracy run by elitists. Let’s see if we can reverse the collectivism and return to the Constitutional republic founded in 1791 through our constitution after our nation was created in 1776.
If Texas leaves it will be one less red state to content with.
The Dude Abides: the Gospel According to the Coen Brothers
Let Texas go. Like most Republican-leaning states, it takes more money from the U.S. government than it pays in taxes. Everyone remaining in the U.S. would be better off.
Or as one of my high school teachers had a sign on his wall, “The only things that are certain in life are: death, taxes and no credit for late homework”
When I was a kid in Texas, lots of people talked about secession. It’s a thing Texas has a lot of, and it’s something which has grown more under republicans, because the republican worldview is that it’s easier to start and lose another civil war than to change themselves for the betterment of society.
Death and Taxes are not a good combination either. MIL died in August and I had to file her final return for 2021 by mail because she died and IRS doesn’t allow e-filing. So the delays from 2020 taxes are still there and I am still waiting for the paperwork to be processed and it may be another year before it is done.
Heard the tax base thing before. Don’t care. Urban California has no respect for rural California.
I’m guessing Clyde has never paid taxes.
Let them, remove and destroy all the military bases and federal buildings. Build a big wall (this is a wall I could back) around Texas and let them fend for themselves. Good bye, good riddance, don’t come asking us for money after your next hurricane, drought (which is laughable as most of the state is effectively a desert, so duh) or energy crisis. Show us just how independent you can live without all the unearned federal money that Texas receives.
Good luck with your King Abbott and court jester Ted Cruz.
From the Wikipedia article “Texas divisionism”:
Article IV, Section 3, of the United States Constitution expressly prohibits any other state from dividing up and forming smaller states without congressional approval. The relevant section states “New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.”
The Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States, approved by Congress on March 1, 1845, states: “Third – New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; and such states as may be formed out of the territory lying south of thirty-six degrees thirty minutes north latitude, commonly known as the Missouri Compromise Line, shall be admitted into the Union, with or without slavery, as the people of each State, asking admission shall desire; and in such State or States as shall be formed out of said territory, north of said Missouri Compromise Line, slavery, or involuntary servitude (except for crime) shall be prohibited.”
No such provision exists for any other state.
With the supreme court stuck on nonsensical originalism and insisting that congress either pass laws or amend the constitution, both of which it is unable to do, the result will be the states passing their own laws on key areas such as guns, abortion, climate change, etc…. This will lead to two Americas with the western and northern coastal states eventually entering into a coalition and the southern and middle states forming their own group with perhaps only national defense still run by Washington DC. I give it ten years before we see the first serious steps towards disunion.
I say let Texas secede. Then when the drug cartels in Mexico decide to reclaim Texas, let’s see how well the Texas National Guard does without the assistance of those dang Yankee Blue Coats.
No less a leftist “tract” than “The Book of Lists” and “The People’s Almanac” listed Texas as among the “Places Most Likely to Secede” in its 1970s compilations of facts, trivia, and wanton speculation, brought to you by the same mindset that brought you Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States.”
Texas was listed, based on its oil production and differing political leanings. In addition, Wallace/Wallace/Wallechinsky pointed out the “right to subdivide into up to five states” (denied by others here) and noted the appeal of additional Congressional representation.
It should be noted what areas made up the rest of that list. As I recall, the #1 “place” on the late 1970s “secession” list was a joint entry for Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Various other future “breakaway” Soviet republics were listed, as were Bosnia-Herzegovina, Scotland (which did recently hold an independence referendum in a national election!), Wales, Quebec, and of course Texas.
Clyde has never worried about Taxes. He just doesn’t Pay them.
Darrin Bell and Theron Heir