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oldlegodad said, 4 months ago

Oboys plan too.
oldlegodad said, 4 months ago

Big Bang, G-D lit the fuze.. Stood back and said “It is good.”
nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

One world government headed by Big Al Gore.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy: All you’ve done is (1) show you have no scientific education, and (2) show you have no imagination.

Expect this post of yours to be brought up again, and again, and again…
HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago

What is it with VP”s? Biden says his security team would not let him attend Last years world series games in Philadelphia and added a quip “who ever shot a VP?” The great Gaffer was not even VP during the World Series.
HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago

28–says it is not about climate afterall–only dominance
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Poor Nandy. Where’d your intelligent designer come from? Nothing?
nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

Anthony 2816 - where did your material universe come from? Nothing? What is it’s purpose? Nothing? Where’s it going? Oblivion.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy, if you’re comfortable that something “always was, forever is”, then why not just say that about the universe, and leave the mythology and magical thinking out of it?

Ockham, y’know.
Freezing said, 4 months ago

I’m cold!
dtroutma said, 4 months ago

Andy would that great i am be Cheney? HE seems to think so.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Wow, Nandy, you’re having a bad day. Slinging the insults left and right in fruitless attempts to detract from your lack of content.

Since I’m so dense, let me consult a dictionary: God. Noun.

Gee, guess I’m not so dense…a god *is* something.

And it’s not an explanation to say the universe is here because some mythical magical something just poofed it into existence. All that shows is your aforementioned lack of imagination and science background.
nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

Wrong Anthony 2816, ANandy is NOT talking about “a god”.

It’s too bad you didn’t get ALL of the facts before you clicked “POST COMMENT”. A little trip over to Merriam-Webster Online gave this:

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as

a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b: Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

Clearly a PERSON and not SOMETHING.

… . and you still haven’t answered my questions above.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nomad: “ANandy is NOT talking about “a god”. ”

Puh-lease. Spare me your semantics. What non-god intelligent designer creator of life, the universe and everything do you claim Nandy is talking about?

Speaking of semantics, a Being is a thing. A person is a thing. A god is a thing. They’re all nouns, something you conveniently left out of your cut & paste from the dictionary.

Now, if you’re ready to stop with the Nandy-style practice of avoiding discussion by going off on semantic tangents, the reason I didn’t answer your question is because the answers come in entire books. They don’t come by asking someone to type it all in for you here. That would like me asking you what the history of the United States is, and then bugging you about it when you failed to relate it.

But I will give you a nudge in the right direction. Although a bit dated, Hawking’s “A Brief History of Time” is a good starting point for learning about the ramifications of the singularity at the heart of the Big Bang.
EnglishTeacher said, 4 months ago

ANandy: Your thesis is unsound as your reasoning is in error. It is a circular argument to say a god created the universe and we know there is a god because there is a universe. Further, you neither define your terms in observable, measurable terms nor specify the mechanism through which creation is achieved. As such, you have no explanation worth considering.
nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

Uh huh, and where did this singularity come from?
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

I suppose saying, “Read the book” would be a waste of time.

Okay, here’s the short version: It doesn’t matter where it came from.

The singularity is the ultimate black hole, containing all the matter and energy of the universe, that exploded around 14 billion years ago as the Big Bang.

But think what that means: If it contained all the matter and energy of the universe, compressed into a black hole, then there’s no possible way that whatever came before it could communicate with what came after it. Nor could what came before it have any effect on what came after it.

Any sort of books, CDs, radio/TV transmissions, cables, light waves, anything that could carry communications would have been crushed beyond recognition into the singularity.

For all we know, there could have been countless prior universes, expanding and then contracting under gravity back into the singularity…but it doesn’t matter, because there’s no possible communication or effect that could have survived the singularity.

For our purposes, time started with the Big Bang.

Regarding your other questions: Purpose? What makes you think it has a purpose? Where’s it going, oblivion? It looks that way, as current calculations suggest that the universe is expanding too fast for it to recollapse.

(And notice how all these explanations rely only on what we can see or measure…no need for magical thinking or mythology.)

Speaking of questions, you seem to have inadvertently missed “What non-god intelligent designer creator of life, the universe and everything do you claim Nandy is talking about?”
parkersinthehouse said, 4 months ago

faith is the (figurative) substance of things hoped for, the (spiritual) evidence of things not seen (from Hebrews 11:1 - parens mine)

the Triune God is truth, power, love, patience, grace and all that’s truly good - no magic, no mythology

an argument or attempt at an explanation won’t change it

it’s not necessary to try to convince one who will not hear

because they, seeing, see not; and hearing, they hear not, neither do they understand (from Matthew 13:13)

i take that to mean we choose to “see” or not and to “hear” or not thus understand or not.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Faith is not evidence. Things hoped for, certainly, but in no way evidence.

You say “He needs not an argument nor an explanation to prove His existence” – of course. Gods are always carefully defined as to be completely unverifiable. If you tell us his address, then we’d be able to see it’s just an imaginary concept, and that won’t do, right?

And why would you say “because they, seeing see not”, since you’ve already said faith is “the evidence of things not seen”. If there’s nothing to see, then it doesn’t matter if non-believers and believers of other mythologies see or not, right?

And as far as “neither do they understand”, I understand pretty well. Most people can’t deal with being alive unless they overlay the universe with some magical mythology. However, many people don’t have that limitation. To us, the universe looks just fine the way it is, and we have no such need to add unverifiable magical mythology on top of it.
EnglishTeacher said, 4 months ago

parkerinthehouse: You are plagiarizing, parroting sentences that are not your own without analysis or proper citation. This is intellectual dishonesty.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago
There was a group of men who picked 65 books out of a few hundred, and called it “THE HOLY BIBLE’, now that you’ve read the 65, now read the rest. For the most part, all these stories in your Bible have their start in older religions, yes they have been plagiarized, and passed on through time.
The story of ” ye without sin cast the first stone” was put in the Bible by one of the Popes!
If you cant explain something, then the devil or God done it. Superstition is superstition, no mater how sophisticated.
my chickens wont lay, must be a sign from God or AIDS came from God , anything not understood, is God or devil.
I’m not saying the Bible doesn’t have it’s place, (it’s a history book), but I wouldn’t go to war over it.
PS Zoroastrianism is like one of the first Jesusies.
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lalas said, 4 months ago

yawn – both to the rabid paranoia about Al Gore and the “logic” that Innaney uses to “prove” his faith.
parkersinthehouse said, 4 months ago

anandy - thanks for holding your ground

fair crit engteach if this were a term paper, but it’s irrelevant in this forum - changed the post anyway - now maybe you’ll … um … umm …
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

Aninny, what ever happen to ” the earth is the center of the universe”. Given time, some day someone might be able to explain you.
dtroutma said, 4 months ago

Without plagiarizing, just read “The Elegant Universe” or any of a number of soundly based physics books that provide more actual concrete evidence of actions/reactions than ANY “faith” text”. Faith is fine, if it doesn’t damage others from other faiths, or who do not accept it. Too many centuries of wars, and internal disputes between “factions” have discredited the entire concept of “one true faith”, whichever one you try to pick.

Science tells me, like it did Einstein, that there is something grander to the universes than “Man” can fully explain- it is our effort to project it as “in Man’s image” that screws it up every time.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy yesterday: “I’ve never suggested something always was, etc. I insist SOMEONE always was, the Great I AM. ”

Nandy today: “God is the something else.”

See, Nomad? Nandy does agree that his god is a “something”. He often goes off on semantic tangents like that as a smoke screen for incredibly illogical statements like “Since something can only come from something else, God is the something else” and “Einstein gave us E=MC2, therefore God is E”. No cause and effect, no logical connection, but that never stops Nandy.

So, Nandy, if Einstein hadn’t come up with E=MC2, then by your “logic” your god wouldn’t be E, right?
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Another complete non-response from Nandy. What a surprise.
churchillwasright said, 4 months ago

Why would any right-thinking person go onto a comics blog to argue about the existence of God for God’s sake!

I am a non-believer, but I would never begrudge anyone for their belief in God. I have no respect for my fellow atheist who calls those who believe stupid. Instead of looking up the definition of God in the dictionary, you would do better to look up the definition of “faith”.

I was raised to “believe”, and came to my conclusions on my own. Still others didn’t believe, and “found religion” later. What ever happened to “to each his own”?

In the civilized world, there will be no more wars fought in the name of God, outside of perhaps the Middle East and parts of Africa. For those atheists who enjoy proselytizing their non-belief, I suggest you go over there and have an esoteric discussion on the meaning of life– as they slit your throat.

And if that sounded too non PC– tough.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Global warming, and our response to it, is a science-based endeavor, Church.

Take a look at Nandy’s posts, from the beginning.

I certainly wouldn’t take his religion away from him…he obviously has a strong need for it to comprehend his world. But when he and like-minded people apply that sort of thinking to topics that should be science-based, harm is done to all humans.

We aren’t going to be able to just pray it away.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

Did ninny say God is a black hole or did he say God was energy ?
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy said that god was energy, but only because Einstein discovered E=MC2.
churchillwasright said, 4 months ago

Global warming may be science based, but at best is still a theory.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Yeah, so’s gravity. Both are demonstrable, but we don’t know everything about how they work.

And peril to anyone who ignores the effects of either.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

HEY, NINNY, 500 years after the fact. Tell me is this your proof. Do you make it up as you go along ? >>http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/aprilweb-only/117-31.0.html << Dont tell me they lied to you, Really ? Just like the 10 commandments, ought to be called the 2 or 3 commandments, or better the 2 or 3 good ideas. Like the 4th commandment, pick a day, any day but the 7th day. Oh, and dont make it a day (24hr), let’s make it an hour. And you would like us to be like you all.
PS you might have a hard time finding your 4th commandment in your bible, seein’ how the catholics rearranged them to get around that pesky idle worship stuff. (clue, it’s the one about keeping the seventh day holy. But which day is that ? look at the calender, count over to 7, need help? look up Monday 2nd day of the week, or ask a Jew, in 6,000 years they haven’t forgotten.)
I use to be a believer, a real bible thumper, until I started looking at what I was believing in.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Sad that an article published by an evangelical christian source showing errors in the bible will not stop the fundies from believing that whatever version of the bible they happen to use is absolutely perfect, complete, and error-free in every way.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

You might want to look at this one, as to where your religion came from. In fact there are religions even earlier than this that has had influence on your religion. >

http://www.religioustolerance.org/zoroastr.htm
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Ever seen this one, Senor?

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/godquiz.htm

Usually people like Puppy hate finding out this sort of thing.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

CESAR, OR CAESAR CONSTANTINE, Of Roma had a vision, then ran his soldiers through a river, and when they came out the other side, he declared them baptized.
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But to my point, CONSTANTINE must be GOD, because in 321 (or about) , He declared that SUNDAY NOT Saturday any more, would be the day of worship for christians, only GOD could change what GOD had said in the COMMANDMENTS. SUNDAY was the day for worship of the SUN.
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I’ll try to find you a link and post it.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

ANTHONY, Love it, thanks. I really, really like it, thanks again.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy, you know so little about science, preferring to just say “God did it”, that you can’t even ask an intelligent question about it.

Go read Hawkings’ “A Brief History of Time”, and then you’ll understand why thinking atoms appeared in sequential order is so ignorant.

Or if you’re not allowed to read such books, here’s the short version, since you seemed to have missed it the first time:

The singularity is the ultimate black hole, containing all the matter (which would include your mythical “first atom”) and energy of the universe, that exploded around 14 billion years ago as the Big Bang.

But think what that means: If it contained all the matter and energy of the universe, compressed into a black hole, then there’s no possible way that whatever came before it could communicate with what came after it. Nor could what came before it have any effect on what came after it.

Any sort of books, CDs, radio/TV transmissions, cables, light waves, anything that could carry communications would have been crushed beyond recognition into the singularity.

For all we know, there could have been countless prior universes, expanding and then contracting under gravity back into the singularity…but it doesn’t matter, because there’s no possible communication or effect that could have survived the singularity.

For our purposes, time started with the Big Bang.

Regarding your other questions: Purpose? What makes you think it has a purpose? Where’s it going, oblivion? It looks that way, as current calculations suggest that the universe is expanding too fast for it to recollapse.

(And notice how all these explanations rely only on what we can see or measure…no need for magical thinking or mythology.)
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

I have the first atom, I got it off E-Bay. The first atom is the same as the last atom, which part of a circle is the beginning ? No God, just is. And who made your God ?And if you must believe in a God, then he/she most certainly came from the big bang.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy, Nandy, Nandy, you really must give up your strategy of arguing from ignorance, or you’ll be wallowing in ignorance forever.

You sound just like those fundie christians who keep asking, “If man descended from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys?”,

To answer your first question: Read the book. I already explained the gist of it to you, and it went right over your head.

I don’t have any need to exclude a creator. I just see no reason for one.

The fact that you’re still asking, “Can something come from nothing?” demonstrates that you’re still unable to grasp the concept. Since no one has ever claimed that something came from nothing, all you’re doing is your usual throwing up strawmen because you’re incapable of addressing the real issues.

Regarding your questions about time, all they show is that you didn’t read what I wrote, so it’s senseless to post it a third time.

Even if you’re not capable of grasping this subject, you’ve shown you’re more than capable of thinking that there’s some magical “creator” who has existed forever. So as long as you can grasp that concept, why not just accept that matter and energy have been around forever, and discard all the magical thinking?
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

You didn’t answer MY question, where did your magical bunny and his hat come from,…. no wait, wrong story, where did your God come from, and where does he get his powers from. Wait, I know, I know, Your mind.
Ever hear of the supercollider, well you’ll just have to wait, like the rest of us.
Your argument of time does not exist. Time is a convenience for us here.and can be manipulated. It is not set in stone, so to speak. there is no time in a black hole.
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Nandy, you continually demonstrate something that is worse than ignorance: Willful ignorance.

Is your faith so shallow that you have to avoid learning? A quote from Shakespeare: “Ignorance is the curse of God; knowledge is the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.”

And I have read your book. Here’s a quote from it, in reference to your lie that I have “ignored” your ignorant question about the “first atom”:

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Still, you probably ignore that part of bible in the same way you ignore these:

[Prov 18:2] A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
[Prov 18:15] An intelligent mind acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

THE GOD PARTICLE, >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fg16j5hbvY <>> Who knows ninny, they might be able to build a bigger, better bomb to blow us all to heaven or hell. Next, God does not exist. >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlSySWuoiA&NR=1 >> more answers from Stephen Hawking. >>http://science.discovery.com/videos/master-universe
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

MORE FROM STEPHEN HAWKING, >>> about 55 min.>>>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2326099876688021736
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

A NINNY, You remind me of a farmer I once talked with. I asked if he made good money off his crops. He told me he makes lots of money off his corn, but lost money on the radishes,. I asked why he grew them. He said it was to keep the wolverines away.
sez I, you have a lot of wolverines around here ? He says; Oh no, ain’t never seen a one, the Radishes keeps them away.

My point, you might ask. Just because I dont believe in “radishes and wolverines” doesn’t make me stupid or hate radishes or the people who believe in the power of radishes.
You also mite want to pick up a book called “Quantum Physics for Dunnies. >>http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Physics-Dummies-Math-Science/dp/0470381884
Anthony 2816 said, 4 months ago

Give it up, Nandy. We’ve already wasted too much time on you, and now all you’re doing is lying through your teeth for who knows what reason.

Try holding your breath while you wait.
ANandy said, 4 months ago

Anthony, not even a decent dodge of the issue.
I’m disappointed.
senorbullwinkle said, 4 months ago

http://science.discovery.com/videos/ten-ways-meet-alien/